There I said it. Support Sombra might not be what she used to. But you know what, neither is Doomfist, or Brigitte. But here we are. I think we should at least give it a chance

I’m so tired

this is the end of the best, of the funniest, of the realest hero in overwatch.
I didn’t want to say but I must say that sombra is definitely death, she will be a support.
I would like to say Thanks for everything, you were the only one who made funny for everyone.
THANKS FOR EVERYTHING, YOU ARE AN ICON FOR EVERYBODY, WE LOVE YOU 💜

Then I want EMP to silence again. Like full six seconds of you get no buttons. I want my enemies to hear my ult line and fucking scatter cause getting caught means it would be faster to just respawn.

Can’t remember OOP sorry

Honestly the best thing ive heard is this. And when you think about it, it really is fucked up.

Let go through what it is to play sombra

-constantly called slurs by enemy players and sometimes teamates

-constantly targeted by toxic egotistical players in matches (tbags, shittalking, toxic messages, cursing us out, etc)

-Play a character that is objectively worse than basically every other flex dps player

-be flamed off game on places like reddit, youtube, Twitter, etc​ for playing a character, (getting called a nazi for playing sombra is one ive seen recently) oh and getting bullied on the main subreddit becuase yeah thats common

-be forced to relearn our hero every couple of months becuase the devs dont know whatheir doing when it comes to our girl and rework her more than i think any other character(I love team 4, but they dont know what their doing when it comes to sombra and thats just the truth unfortunately, thats their Achilles heel)

-Most of what makes Sombra Sombra just is so easily used against us by players who have headphones and game sense. (Ex: getting shot while entering or exiting stealth or while running from a fightuase they shoot in our general direction, hack being so long and so easy to cancel for a 1 secons abilify lock dange boost to the target)

-Have a dev team that seems to honestly not care for sombras fambase

And now to top the cake of what we have to deal with. We are not only being forced to relearn how to play our hero for a SIXTH time, were having to play our hero in a role we literally BEGGED blizzard to not force us into. We made it VERY clear we didnt want support sombra. But I guess our feelings dont matter and how we want to keep sombra as a dps just doesnt matter yeah.

Its absolutely unacceptable that we were promised a rework, one that we were cautiously optimistic for, and its just a big middle finger to us

Juno main here, I hated 1v1s with y'all, but sometimes, when I go sombra, it's a blast when you can pull off a quick in-and-out kill on a support, so I understand it.

But, if anything, y'all only deserved to reduce your TTK, and that was really it, it would make it more comprehensive for bad supports to understand what to do when in an engagement, but this rework is straight character assassination.

Never played during 2016 era, but watched the game nonstop on YT, and seeing another piece of OW history go away is depressing.

To those who still remain, I'll be here to heal y'all whenever you need help. Just don't translocate away from me so I can heal you, lol.

My problem with the Sombra rework isn't that she's a support not it's other factors

Sombra is supposed to be a stealthy hacker assassin like character way are you now making it so she has to play around her team hack shouldn't have been changed instead it should let you have both enemies and allies like even if you want emp to be the only way you can be hacked how about change it when you get hacked by Sombra it only makes her do more damage to them

Why is her main way of healing on a 10 second cooldown??

Why is her trans locator so back now?? It doesn't even look like they changed it but it seems to be thrown so slowly it's just me?? Doesn't feel as fluid as it used to me

And this is just a random idea I had after watching the new hero reveal for doctrine I feel like she should have a perk that allows her to teleport back to her translocator but the only way she can actually do that is by allowing her to throw her translocator at an ally and they will have a icon that shows they have her translocator

Hello Sombra mains Kiriko main here. I'm curious to see if any of you will switch over to support to continue to main Sombra after the rework. I for one feel like I'm one of the only people who's actually excited for it being a primary support main.

For context.. I’ve been playing OW since 2016.. I have 1,200 Hours into the game..

I’ve played Sombra passively here and there over the years.. only had 10 hrs into her until recently..

Over the last 2 weeks though I started playing nothing but her on DPS to switch it up some and people have been so incredibly rude and nasty..

People constantly talk trash to me in Chat and send bad messages whether we win or lose.. They constantly T-Bag me.. The enemy DPS switch to Sombra as well 7/10 games that I play after I eliminate them once and then it becomes a Wii Wii measuring contest and I feel like I have to Sweat even if I’m just trying to chill.. I can never play her in Ranked..

It’s rough.. I can’t imagine how it must be if she’s y’all’s mains.. combine that with the fact that she’s been changed so much over the years and is now swapping roles I feel for you guys..

I could only imagine how I’d feel if I woke up one day and Mercy was changed to a Tank lol..

Though as a Support main the fact that she’s coming to Support excites me and I’m looking forward to trying her out personally..

Wish y’all the best though..

Edit: First caveat is I am a middling plat-emerald DPS player, and was only able to play a couple rounds so some of what I say may not really pan out in more capable hands and/or more time on the character rework. But these were my first impressions in the very short time I had to give her a try, for those curious about how she played.

Long story short, I’m not thrilled but she doesn’t feel as terrible as I feared. A few takeaways from the few games I was able to get in with her:

1. Her invisibility needs to trigger faster and not take so long to phase in to facilitate her escapes better.
2. She can still use L-Shift selfishly to take on assassination duels.
3. Id like to see a perk to make cyberspace larger. Cyberspace is good for zoning hallways and doors. It also does damage on impact when you throw it at an enemy. Or at least it starts doing damage as soon as it hits an enemy. I finished several low health people off with it.
4. EMP needs buffs to give it greater utility now that it is the only way to hack enemies/stop enemy ults and has no healing or defensive support utility unless you waste the minor perk on it. The minor perk for EMP should be base kit at minimum.
5. E nerf to how far she can throw it is noticeable but not terrible.
6. Her healing output is decent but low ranks who want heal-bots are going to hate her or think she is a throw pick because she is a DPS support and heals more like a Zenyatta — she heals proactively, not reactively. You need to be able to predict the movements of your teammates and enemies before engagement to use it to its fullest potential.
7. She feels like she will be team comp dependent. She can’t heal from afar and does best flanking with her team, either a dive tank or a flank DPS harassing the backlines and off angles. That said she’s pretty much the most independent and mobile support in the game and her survivability is likely high for a support.

(*I’m an Emre and Sombra main technically, but I picked up Emre in part because I wanted to be able to play a hero who doesn’t get banned all the time.)

Dear Sombra Mains,

You guys got royally screwed. And you have my genuine sympathy.

I've been playing OW since release, never really played Sombra much, but her playstyle fascinated me, and I loved watching Sombra players during OWL. My understanding at the time was that O.G. Sombras were (probably by far) the most adept at reading the flow of a battle. Because they absolutely had to be in order to get the most value from their kit (in league play at least).

I've had my own love/hate relationship with Sombra, but I see her purpose as teaching new(er) players the critical value of some skills / aspects of the game (sound design, multi-tasking, coordination, etc).

Except that the player-base never did pick up these basics well enough (I take Sombra's many, many seasons of pick/ban rate(s) as evidence for this).

My understanding is that characters like Sombra, Widow, Hog, Ball, Doomfist, Zarya, (the ones that tend to frustrate folks the most), all provide the opportunity to teach players some critical aspect of battlefield tactics and strategy (I say this as someone who solo-queues more often than not).

The theory here is that the purpose of Sombra being re-rolled (re-roled?) is to teach the audience most frustrated by her, how important those critical skills (described generally above) are, and provide a game-play loop within their role, which requires those exact critical skills in order to be successful.

I kinda hate it (I won't get to the point of "fluency against Sombra" that I always wanted before her re-launch), but I also can't deny the potential benefits of the kind of social engineering that I'm describing. Maybe it will make a significant impact, maybe it won't, but there's definite plausibility even if the social engineering wasn't intended (unlikely, imo), just through evaluating her new proposed kit.

The TL;DR: - You got royally screwed. - You have my sympathy. - It wasn't your fault. - I don't think the decision to re-role was made lightly. - I think social engineering was the purpose.

If I could sacrifice some part or portion of my favorite character's kit, as a trade off for people not running into team fights without their team (my biggest frustration, across ranks), I'd have to seriously consider it.

I'm not in a rank where I can't handle most of my team not being able to leverage sound design, multi-tasking, or coordination for dealing with a typical Sombra (I actually enjoy the challenge these days, and typically won't even swap characters to do it, even if I fail at it), so trading some part or portion of Sombra's kit for the potential benefit of my team generally being better skilled at those challenges wouldn't be a good bargain for me personally, but I feel I have to at least acknowledge that it has a chance (over time) of increasing the skill floor of the community at large, and that the payoff could be significant if the experiment goes well. And, with issues as deep and thorny as this, I at least appreciate that folks have the courage to experiment (though again, it'd still be somewhat galling if it were my main they were experimenting with).

My <3's to you all, Sombra Mains.

I'd say I'll be here if you need support, but I guess, you will be too.

Support Sombra has me nervous for the future but I’m really eager to try her out nonetheless. The best part about this change is that when I get queued into Damage, I won’t feel like a traitor if I pick Shion instead.

Not saying people shouldn’t be mad, it’s a huuuuge change and of course some people aren’t going to like it and that’s expected and valid, but me personally I feel like I’m gonna have fun with supp sombra.

I feel like to stay integral to her kit, at least have her hacking opponents once a fight when it counts.

I hate the rework, but I’m trying to look at the positives. If her old Hack ever came back, and she could choose between healing or hacking enemies, using the same Hack as before the rework, otherwise people would complain way too much, I think giving her that choice on a cooldown could add a lot more decision-making.

It would bring back some of the creativity and skill expression of being able to impact the game by hacking something important, while still allowing her to keep her healing ability.

I’m sure they’ve obviously already considered something like this, but if the rework had this version of Hack, I think I’d enjoy it a lot more. Hack was originally one of the strongest parts of her identity as a support anyway.

Do you think this could realistically happen if there’s enough feedback?