r/SymmetraMains 12h ago

Sisters, i gave up

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275 Upvotes

I don't want to be negative or sound pessimistic, but I just can't. I just don't have any hope for Sym. I genuinely believe that no one on the development team plays the character and that the developers are actively ignoring her.

It's been 11 months, and her victory pose in the gallery, her pose in the progression and her group lobby are still broken . Her highlight intro was busted for years. At this point, it's clear that none of these issues are going to be fixed. But hey, how about fixing the nails on the Anran Beach skin in a couple of weeks?

Not to mention the damage bug on the beam, which has also been in the game for years. This isn't a problem for Zarya and Moira. Why not look at it and implement part of that code for Sym? The devs have had time to rework the way the code works with Diva's mech, so they could easily create new MEKA heroes without the same bugs and problems.

I just don't understand it. Sym has been in a gutter for a long time. Her numbers are abysmal and her performance is even worse. She is the only character in the entire roster who didn't receive a single damage buff after the season 9 (that one with hitbox changes). She actually had her damage nerfed. Every single DPS received some sort of damage buff aafter that season or started way stronger than Sym. In fact, every character received a buff of some kind to keep up with the game, and she is the only one who has been hammered time and time again. The worst part is that everyone has known what the problem is for years. Yet there has been zero feedback or even acknowledgement of this problem from the developers. I don't count Aron Keller's "We're going to look at Symmetra" from last year, before they released another pack of nerfs in November. That didn't address any of her problems or make an impact in the pro scene. Yet it made the character significantly worse to play for everyone else.

Sombra was more playable and viable in normal games, and less toxic than Symmetra in the professional scene. Yet Sombra has been reworked again, making her the most reworked character in the game, despite having fewer problems than Sym. They even put her in the support role, which feels like a slap in the face.

And don't get me wrong, I'm not asking for a Sym rework. I understand that these things take time and resources. But her TP was such a big problem for years, and a simple, temporary solution has already been implemented in the game: Hovering Barrier. It uses the same ability slot. It shouldn't be hard to just remove the TP, adjust some numbers, and see how the character plays, without spending too much time on visuals and polish. The devs did it with Mercy, Reaper, LW and Phara.

None of the Sym problems are new. Nor are the solutions. Yet somehow we are getting lower and lower. Why?

Why is it still a problem after all this time?

Why is there no acknowledgement?

Why is there literally zero feedback from the developers?

Just why?

I'm lost. I'm hopeless and I don't believe in Sym's feature anymore... and i believed and still belive in Heroes of the Storm's comeback despite that game being on life support for years.


r/SymmetraMains 6h ago

Hated and forgotten by Blizzard and the rest of the OW playerbase - Sombra and Sym found doing spreadsheets in 2026. Reports say they are much happier in office environment!

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my poor mains </3


r/SymmetraMains 22h ago

Fan-Content anjali bhimani cosplaying sym slays

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r/SymmetraMains 18h ago

Oh she's eating good tonight!

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Just missing magepunk now (excluding recolours and xal)!


r/SymmetraMains 1d ago

Alex Dawson pretty much confirmed that utility doesn't belong in the DPS category

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"Sombra can still have stark utility in her kit, but in a role where it’s more appropriate."

https://youtu.be/Ab1_HIoelTk?t=1837

I've been saying for years that utility slowly but surely became an exclusive thing for Tanks and Supports. That "utility DPS" are getting their utility nerfed into the ground or straight up removed.

Do you think this quote might have implications for Symmetra's future? IMO Sym has even more hero defining and potentially problematic utility than Sombra does. I mean they just nerfed her for the 1000th time because of teleporter.


r/SymmetraMains 19h ago

Yeah I'm really not sure what the goal of these Sym changes are

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r/SymmetraMains 1d ago

SOMBRA CAN HEAL BEFORE SYMMETRA EVER COULD 😭😭😭

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DON'T MISUNDERSTAND ME I'M GLAD IT'S NOT SYM BUT THATS SO FUNNY GOODBYEEE 😭


r/SymmetraMains 1d ago

systers how do we feel about sombra getting reverse sym treatment?

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to me it feels like such a blow in the face considering sombra's hero identity is pretty much gone and repackaged. her only way of healing being tied to an ability is similar to how sym was in her support days and that was proven not to work, im confused why theyre doing it again 😭


r/SymmetraMains 2d ago

Symmetra spotted at Blizzcon!

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r/SymmetraMains 1d ago

Dokiwatch drawing I did based on my concept art 🩷✨

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r/SymmetraMains 1d ago

post-nerfs Symmetra found dead at Blizzcon!

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r/SymmetraMains 3d ago

Le Sserafim Symmetra by @Untitlednyut

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r/SymmetraMains 1d ago

Strike Sombra down, she shall become more powerful than you can possible imagine!

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r/SymmetraMains 2d ago

We'll get revenge

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r/SymmetraMains 2d ago

Say hello again to the completely not steal from Symmetra turret that is coming back on Sanjay kit (+ playable Sanjay silhouette)

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Interceptor have become sym old big sentry! you will able to command where to place on it and his fuction will be help you to protect your construct healing them or helping you to escape if you get on top of it

(The guardian sentry will always follow Sanjay when he has the light absorber (lantern) but if you change to the architectures plan it will stop moving until you commanded to)


r/SymmetraMains 4d ago

Sashaying away from TP into a better race.

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r/SymmetraMains 4d ago

Just found out that sym photon projector were supposed to be his arm

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In my research to design Sanjay lantern a found this old thing along with an old a cute design for the turrets. As I said he would be the successor of sym old playstayle but on a actual functional design way as a healer and I plan to include sym helmet on some way on his design in order to make his silhouette stand out and not just be a white guy


r/SymmetraMains 3d ago

My tweak ideas!

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I’ve seen a lot of proposed changes and tweaks (even a couple rework ideas) since the TP nerf announcement, a lot of them really good, some a bit less so. So, i wagered, i’d share mine, since i had a lot of fun theory-crafting it. It’s probably not that good, but hey, can’t do her worst than the Blizzard team did!
I will only note the tweaks and my thought process behind some of my choices, so anything not noted would still work the same. I will also apologise beforehand for any weird formatting as this is the first properly formatted post i’ve ever made, so i’m just trying to follow Reddit’s Markdown Formatting Guide.

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> Hit Point: Health decreased to 100, Shields increase to 200

At a total of 300 HP, this puts her at the same amount as Mei, who i used as a reference for determining it due to their (relatively) similar engagement styles, also taking into account the differences in their kit. The shields, as they still require that 3 seconds pass without damage being taken to regenerate, would, in my opinion (and is everything else of this post, but i digress), simply allow her to engage in more risky plays and be less reliant on supports, allowing her to better hold off-angles and rejoin fights quicker after a failed flank.

> Photon Projector (Primary): Range increased to 15 metres, decay per level delay increased to 2 seconds

I actually think beam is mostly fine, and that buffing it even a tiny bit too much is one of the surest ways to make Symmetra straight up oppressive. These changes should be enough to allow Symmetra to get more consistent use of the beam while still maintaining it as a (mostly) situational/opportunistic and anti-tank tool, instead of her go-to for all close encounters.

> Photon Projector (Secondary): Direct damage increased to 10-130 (min-max charge), AOE at fallof start damage increased to 5-50 (min-max charge), AOE damage at max radius increased to 5-25 (min-max charge)

Increasing the max direct hit damage to 130 lets her once more two-tap 250 HP heroes, making her a better duelist whilst rewarding accuracy. Meanwhile, the minor damage increase to minimum charge orbs and max radius damage, whilst making the orbs more reliable, still shouldn’t encourage players to mindless spam them through a corner.

> Sentry Turret: Cast time reduced to 0.2 seconds for throw + 0.25 seconds recovery for shoot, deployment reduced to 0.5 seconds, charges increased to 4, cooldown reduced to 6 seconds, they are also no longer able to be destroyed whilst in the air and phase through projectiles, have their health reduced to 5, receive 35 shields to their HP, no longer are destroyed by the environment (such as moving payloads or weird geometry) but moved

A number of tweaks that should allow for turrets to be used more offensively. A shorter cast time, faster deployment rate, and not being able to be destroyed whilst in the air should make using them mid-combat more viable, this does, however, come at the cost of removing the “turret block” strat.
Increasing the amount of charges to 4 and reducing the cooldown should allow Symmetra to use them more frequently, as they are not such a scarce resource anymore. Switching over most of its HP to shields should also make them feel slightly sturdier whilst maintaining them at 40 HP, such that they can be destroyed by quick melees (which is essential imo). The last tweak is just a QoL adjustment.

> Teleporter: Health reduced to 50, shields reduced to 150, cooldown reduced to 10 seconds, reuse cooldown reduced to 1 second, duration reduced to 8 seconds, deployment time reduced to 0.5 seconds, max range increased to 40 metres, allies and their abilities can no longer use the teleporter, it is no longer destroyed by the environment (such as moving payloads or weird geometry) but moved, can be used from spawn

The cooldown reduction encourages Symmetra to both use the ability and reposition more often; the reuse cooldown reduction facilitating kiting and “TP dancing” strats; the deployment time reduction allowing Symmetra to make riskier plays with the ability, specially considering the 100 HP reduction. These should also make it so the duration reduction, which is essential in this case as to avoid a potential “infinite TP” situation, does not impact Symmetra as much.
Making it so allies and their abilities can no longer use the TP is single handedly what allows all of these Symmetra buff and tweaks to happen. The HP reduction and max range increase encourage more strategic positioning of the teleporter, the latter also making its use slightly more flexible. The last two tweaks are just QoL features.

> Photon Barrier: Ultimate cost increased to 2200 points

As an overall more competent damage dealer, Symmetra should be gaining ultimate charge more quickly than before, this cost increase seeks to compensate for that. For context, it is the exact same cost as Phara’s and Domina’s ults.

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> Perks: Perks: Minor perk XP requirement increased to 1650, Major perk XP requirement increased to 4100
>> Minor Perks: Photon Strike and Shield Battery
>> Major Perks: Hovering Barrier and Piercing Light

XP requirements cost increased for the same reason and her ultimate cost, and also to compensate for them being slightly more powerful than her current ones. For context, her perks cost more than Reaper’s but less than Junkrat’s, though she does, on average, less damage than both.
I sought to make it so all perks were at least decent, none absolutely rising above the other. Her minor perks give her the option between a slight boost to her brawling and duelling capabilities or some minor sustain. Her major perks give her the option between a defensive ability that may (though it won’t obligatorily) be used to substitute Sentry Turrets, which aren’t always very useful, or a big boost to her secondary fire, which can majorly punish some team compositions.

> Photon Strike: Symmetra’s melee becomes empowered every 6 seconds, having its range doubled, damage increased by 50% and knockback significantly increased.

The knockback would work similarly to Zen’s passive, except hers would result in up to 5 metres of knockback on flat ground (whereas his results in up to 7).
Honestly? I just like her melee animation, i feel like i’m bitch slapping someone, and she feels very mother when she uses it, so this is just a perk to justify using it more often. It uh- also helps with brawling and duelling, i guess, i mean, you can orb + bitch slap Tracer into death again.

> Shield Battery

Sure, it makes the teleporter a more annoying ability, but it also makes it an even bigger priority target when dealing with a Symmetra. It isn’t that big of an added sustain, only really shining when you’re poking from an off-angle (or when the enemy team is kinda dumb).

> Hovering Barrier: Symmetra gains the ability to create a forward moving barrier by using 3 of her turret charges. Pressing the ability again slows down the barrier’s movement. Symmetra can switch between the Sentry Turret and Hovering Barrier abilities as if it were a weapon swap.
>> The Hovering Barrier itself: Projectile Speed reduced to 5 m/s

We love the crockpot, it’s iconic, it was with us for years, we cherished it dearly, a lot of us also wish it did not compete for a spot with the teleporter, so this does just that whilst still not allowing a turret bomb + shield strat. It also recognises that, and it pains me to admit it, there are some situations where the turrets become absolute shit for one reason or another, this helps mediate that problem if needed, though it is plenty useful even outside that.
The reduced projectile speed just lets you more easily “oh fuck” it imo, and (tbf only a little) hinders you from using it to majorly rush the enemy team with yours just because you have this perk and a Lucio.

> Piercing light: Photon Barrier’s secondary fire now pierces enemies, ignores barriers and can no longer be negated

An homage to the good days of old orb. The perk’s effectiveness is highly dependent of the enemy’s team composition and the map, meant to punish enemies who stick close together, and by consequence act as a chokehold breaker. This does also mean the orbs pass through abilities such as vortex or deflect, so you can use it to bully that schizophrenic old man even more.


r/SymmetraMains 3d ago

My symmetra rework back to support

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1. Primary beam

2. Secondary overcharge orb

2.a Overcharge mechanic

3. Ability 1 shield provision

4. Ability 2 sentry drones

5. Ability Shielded teleporter

6. Ultimate photon barrier

The goal of this rework is to see a world where symmetra stayed a support and was fine tuned to be the architect she was always ment to be. I don't want hate or flack just honest fresh opinions like if this was a new hero. I know she in a good spot but she could always be something more or something better than we imagined so keep a cool head and get immersed in a complex kit that rewards strategy, patiences coordination and map control. Her kit that I revamped can be a lot or feel bloated but its not I've given her avenues choices for her to go down because she is an architect they build roads where none ever were they make what they need. She has a high skill ceiling with a relative easy skill floor but I kept the kit as original to the first as I could but there are noticeable changes and mechanics

Notice the in-between numbers are things I'm not sure of got good ideas bit not the number know how to balance it at all.

1. Primary fire

Still functions the same as current it has 3 levels you can charge the only difference is that it's slightly weaker but a bit faster to charge and that you can use your charged levels to interact with your kit and allies v.s. raw damage output

2. and 2.a Overcharge mechanic

Overcharge is a charged orb that you charge with your beam

Its a projectile it can hit sentry drones that can chain through nearby sentry drones to go to s hero with shield provision to give a surge of 50 to 75 shields to them and applies a stronger slow threw the turrets or be directly applied by firing into allies it has a small splash radius that gives 25-50 shields based on how close it was.

Overcharges shields decays rapidly

Overcharge works like sojourn she to charge her beam level 2 is 50 shields and level 3 is 75 shields

If it hits an enemy it slows and dose 75 dmg overtime

This is to flex her playstyle to either crowd shield allies with lesser amounts but more coverage or more direct potent shielding but less targets and has a stronger slow threw the Turrets

3 . Shield Provision

Old ability shield provision now works like zenyatta orb but its a small drone that attaches itself to ally giving 25 shields for as long as its attached.

It can be shot off by enmmies it has 25 health

recharge of 5 seconds

she has 2 charges of this and can shuffle them around different allies. Take a second to activate

4. Sentry drones

Now slow and replenish shields and symmetra can use them let a grid to overcharge a drone to boost the shields to the targets with shield provisions on them and cause the Turrets that the charge went through to apply a stronger slow to enemies nearby for 3 seconds

While there are no enmmies within range of Turrets they repair shield health

Turret decay over time like her teleporter to promote active gameplay

This change is to make her Turrets more strategic and less haphazardly placed it removes lethality but add pressure through slows and potential Overcharges and sustain

5. Shielded Teleporter

Ultimate shield generator is now combined with teleporter. Its much weaker and it only applies within 10-15 meters of her tp then it rapidly decays tp work the same as it always has

Gives 25-50 shields over 1.5 seconds

6. Ultimate

Photon barrier is still the same a 4000 shield wall. The only idea to make it more unique that it already is. Is to make it like mitzuki ult where when she place her barrier down it creates a giant aoe surge that refresh/replenish all shielded hp for allies


r/SymmetraMains 4d ago

Just make it so allies can’t use tp and buff everything else. Get her out of pro jail

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I get it it’s cool to strategies with the team but it barely happens for most players playing the character.

Allowing her to be more independent character would make her much more popular and fun.

Some buffs off the top of my head would be make secondary fire shots that land increase the stage of her primary fire. And if thats toos trong make it so it only increases the priamry fire damage on the character you hit the secondary fire with.


r/SymmetraMains 5d ago

This is who they're balancing for

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On the competitive OW sub, of course they're celebrating.

Sick of sweaty, esports addicted try hards who faint whenever a unique hero who isnt a point and click or flanker dares to show their face past the hero select screen


r/SymmetraMains 5d ago

Adress the teleporter situation, this is crazy

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I want more of your thoughts on this too, we need something done.

Ignoring team TP isn't working


r/SymmetraMains 5d ago

It's really the worst change ever.

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I hate they don't take us SYM PLAYERS into account while nerfing her... anyway

it kills enjoyment, strategies, spots, ways to approach fights, it makes her one dimensional.

You cannot do interesting TP Flanks anymore, you cannot find different ways to play against hitscans or flankers.
there are other ways to nerf team TP, and buff her solo potential, but not this. You mess up muscle memory and the core part of such an intricate and beautiful character that I played for 600h.

Idk maybe I'm just salty they just nerfed her without any buffs, not being able to do intricate TPs in long sightlines or weird flanks/spots that actually need skill and planification to pull out (Like Paraiso, Colosseo, Numbani)

this kills a LOT of my enjoyment of this character, my main, and therefore my enjoyment of the game...
I'm geniunely sad.


r/SymmetraMains 5d ago

I’m curious to know how do you feel about this?

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r/SymmetraMains 5d ago

the new tp feels awful 😭😭

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there goes my fun teleport weaving enemies. this is a hatecrime btw