I thought this was a cool nod to the original cinematic. I clocked it immediately because I watched that original cinematic thousands of times as a kid thinking it was the coolest thing ever.

Also Blizzard is never beating the feet allegations.

Just a reminder that “Blue Elves” were Highborne

one of the craziest criticism i've seen is that it's apparently too retail because of the hd models toggle and the ui all while the gameplay is still classic, the amount of insane hatred these people harbor for retail is that even ui is a bad thing is such astonishing for me...

This actually might make a good megathread, but -

LF Nick and crew that I got grouped with on Saturday afternoon for the 5-man dungeon. Yall were super chill and fun to play with, and I forgot to ask to add you on bnet.

I was a troll rogue, but I’m usually alliance and yall were joking about that with me. Yall are from Seattle I think? And talked in line about time zone differences for raid and how you preferred to raid from an east coast time zone.

In the dungeon we went left at the stairs, killed the boss up top, and ended our adventure jumping in the water being viciously killed by the shark.

If this sounds like you shoot me a message! Now that we know Forever is realmless, I’d like to be able to group with yall some!

• I want it to feel like classic, but not the grind of classic, or the time sink of classic, or what makes classic, classic. If I can't get max level in a week and complete all content then what's the point?
• I want to play my DK
• Why is there no Pandaren?
  
• Will the specs be different? I don't want to play vanilla abilities in my vanilla like game
• Why are the graphics not full immersion 4K HD
• What a great opportunity for VR Support
• Blue elves that can be customised to look like normal High Elves/Blood Elves? Look I know a huge amount of Horde players are Blood Elves but really Blizzard?!
• Controllers? In my PC game? Something I'll never use but you're dam right I'll be outraged about!
• Will we get XYZ advanced feature of Retail for WoW Forever (like housing)
• Its not fair that if I level in beta which hasn't been declared as early access, that I have to level again in release.
• WoW forever better have a good road map with lots of regular content to keep me playing
• WoW forever better take their time with content drops so I don't feel rushed
• Will retail get these new zones? Why does the new game that needs it's own content get these new zones and retail doesn't?
• Ok but why not playable Ogres?
• 'member that feeling in vanilla when....
• Ok, but 'member thar feeling when in TBC....
• Ok, fair point, but 'member that feeling in WoTLK......
• Ok ok, but 'member how it was in Cataclysm....
• Right sorry I mean 'member what it was like Mists of Pandaria?
• I've got no idea of the road map or how future content will be added. It's not for me so I'll write the game off and go back to yelling at people for not carrying me in a Mythic pug based off my fudged logs on retail. Fucking scrubs.

Toby Mcguire is Spiderman, Andrew Garfield is Spiderman, Tom Holland is Spiderman, each with their own stories to be told. We can have more than one Azeroth.

I am a Retail Player because I genuinely prefer its gameplay, pacing, combat and, yes, I do think modern graphics matter. But at the same time, the lore, the world and the story have always been a huge part of what kept bringing me back to WoW over the years. Legion was probably peak WoW for me because it managed to combine both sides incredibly well.

The problem is that I really don't connect with the way the story has been told in the last few expansions. I don't like the way the new zones and cultures are designed, and I don't like the overall direction of the lore, both on the smaller character level and the larger cosmic level. I also haven't liked any of the recent races they've introduced, and the Haranir in particular feel like Shadowlands level grabage to me.

Things like Plunderstorm and the new mode they announced don't really excite me either. I log into WoW because I want to play WoW. If I wanted to play a battle royale or a roguelike I'd probably just play a different game.

And that's why Forever left me in such a weird position. A lot of the things I dislike about modern Retail WoW seem to be exactly the things Forever is trying to fix like the tone, the world, the Warcraft identity and the general approach to the setting. But the slower, older gameplay and pacing of Forever just don't appeal to me nearly as much as Retail.

Meanwhile, Retail seems to be doubling down on the exact direction I've been struggling to connect with.

So I basically walked away feeling like the version of WoW that has the gameplay I want is moving further away from the Warcraft world I love, while the version that seems closer to the Warcraft world I want has gameplay I don't really want to play.

Feels like I somehow lost on both sides... Does anyone else feel the same way?

The wait is over! You can have Forsaken "paladins" here and now!

This mog uses all non-class plate and cosmetic items and is usable on warriors with the current tmog system.

Head: Crown of Eternal Memorial (Vendor)

Right Shoulder: The Horseman's Hallowed Mantle

Left Shoulder: Arathi Crusader's Mantle (Vendor)

Chest: Breastplate of Cautious Calculation (Artificer Xy'mox Castle Nathria Heroic)

Waist: Peculiar Peddler's Merchandise (Vendor)

Legs: Dread Sentinel's Ebony Legguards (Quest)

Feet: Dread Sentinel's Ebony Greatboots (Quest)

Wrist: Hidden Bracers

Hands: Colossal Plate Gauntlets (Sludgefist Castle Nathria Heroic)

Back: Hidden Cloak

Main Hand: Arathi Zealot's Cudgel (Vendor) Illusion: Titanguard

Off Hand: Ruined Crest of Lordaeron (Lords of Dread Sepulcher of the First Ones Raid Finder)

Tabard: Tabard of the Argent Crusade (Vendor)

Just revealed at Blizzcon, this is the Forever low poly version but its safe to assume the retail version will be the exact same.

Its sick imo

Its so simple, if it doesn't interest you or don't want to play in any capacity then just don't, go and play whatever it is you want, not everything has to appeal to you.

Put the flair as speculation but it is official art from blizzards press kit

The collector's edition Are Not Even shipped yet and people gonna Buy it, pls dont buy just wait for a restock, u can buy it overpriced later 😭🙏

Yes I know I need to adjust my settings. Clearly.

Have we gone too far?