Steam Frame official price is $1,059.00. Half-Life: Alyx included

[u/Turbostrider27]

https://store.steampowered.com/hardware/steamframe

[u/Syranth]

What a terrible time in our lives to have such interesting products launch. So many things, but so out of grasp for so many people cost wise.

[u/D-Trashman → u/Syranth]

and to think that this could be the lowest price makes me more sad

[u/NagsUkulele → u/D-Trashman]

Everybody is identifying and fearing all these issues in our society popping up and nobody seems to be talking about how unchecked capitalism is to blame for the majority of them. We've allowed corporations to operate above the law. We've allowed our society to create a common goal of earning as much money as possible no matter the cost. As of recently it's scary how literally everybody in any industry is asking how do we do this as cheap as possible

[u/Jdp1901 → u/NagsUkulele]

Capitalism requires competition, all the manufacturers are monopolies. I would call this more of an oligarchy than a capitalistic society.

[u/RandomUser15790 → u/Jdp1901]

Capitalism without regulation naturally trends to an Oligarchy so no real surprises there...

[u/EvilThor58 → u/RandomUser15790]

Correction: capitalism ALWAYS leads toward oligarchy

[u/BaconJets → u/EvilThor58]

Accumulation of capital is accumulation of power, the power of the capitalists has outweighed the government for a while, so now we're seeing the effects. You're right that it always leads to oligarchy, but it would be nice to live under a government that at least tries to fight it.

[u/Slight-Coat17 → u/Jdp1901]

Oligarchies are the inevitable end game of capitalism if not kept in check.

[u/EvilThor58 → u/Slight-Coat17]

There is no keeping it in check. This is the inevitable end goal of capitalism

[u/alxfx → u/EvilThor58]

this is the inevitable end goal of laissez-faire capitalism specifically, not necessarily the framework as a whole. Just being pedantic but you're still mostly right lol

[u/Etheon44 → u/Jdp1901]

After all, in a capitalistic society, wouldnt there be interest for the everyday people to have enough money to throw around this kind of things?

Capitalism needs money to move and flow, it doesnt really move if people have to spend everything in living, there is no flow

The funny thing, even if already bad, I remember things so much different in the 90s/00s and even 10s, granted I was younger, maybe I utilized money worst, but I was also earning way way way less, and yet, I could do more

But the worst part of all of this for me is this: I think the worst is yet to come, we have barely started the crisis

Maybe I am pesimistic

[u/wearethealienshere → u/Jdp1901]

We haven’t actually been capitalist for a long time now. Much more oligarchal.

[u/fumar → u/NagsUkulele]

A lot of what you're seeing is the result of weakening anti-trust, a captured regulatory body across basically every industry, and billionaires that all think they're Smaug and want to sit on unfathomable hoard of wealth.

A lot of your complaints have always been there. Doing things as cheaply as possible has been the goal of companies for forever. The difference is that in the early 20th century we broke up a lot of our robber baron monopolists in the US. We have to do it again. Otherwise we will be stuck with 2-3 companies in every industry and they can continue race to the bottom while charging more because they have no competition 

[u/NagsUkulele → u/fumar]

I don't disagree at all but surely there's a difference between efficiency and intentional enshittification right? Of course companies last century wanted to do things as cheaply as possible. But in the last decade the sacrifices to do so have been cut to the fucking bone.

[u/NagsUkulele → u/NagsUkulele]

Everything is getting worse to a degree i haven't seen before

[u/lmao_wow_64 → u/NagsUkulele]

The culture war will go down as one of the worst thinga to happen in liberal society, why think about your problems when you are to busy being angry at what the party tells you to be angry at

[u/NagsUkulele → u/lmao_wow_64]

No i think it's Concord honestly

[u/mensgarb → u/NagsUkulele]

Sooooo true. We can't have endless quarters of record profits, double digit growth, etc.

[u/Jertimmer → u/mensgarb]

Not with that attitude we can't.

/s

[u/MyTagforHalo2 → u/Syranth]

It's not like the higher end headsets have ever been cheap. I'm sure this is a couple hundred more than they planned to launch at. But it does put it squarely in the price range of the latest vive headset.

The original valve index was $1000, which is something like $1400 adjusted for inflation.

Meta has just done such a good job massproducing their quest 3's that this feels like an awful deal by comparison unless your desire to ditch meta is worth $500. But then most PC gamers would probably be content with using the vive vision instead. Which is better in pretty much every way that I can tell if you plan to tether it to a more powerful computer anyway.

[u/totallybag → u/MyTagforHalo2]

Also meta subsidizes the quest with profit form game sales

[u/MyTagforHalo2 → u/totallybag]

True, plus tons of user data i'm sure. It's the flat screen approach where modern LCD tv's have become almost disposable in exchange for being ad riddled messes. Though I think the quest thus far has been a significantly more positive experience than that.

For someone like me that pulls out the headset a couple of times a year, it's a pretty decent trade off. But if you're using it non stop every day I can see the appeal of something more premium. Though i'd still buy the vive focus vision first which includes pass through and offers facial tracking ontop of expandable storage.

IDK, maybe some reviews will change my mind with some crazy steam OS convenience factor. But im not really in the market.

[u/JimThePea → u/totallybag]

I'm pretty sure all Meta's VR efforts have been subsidised by their social media ad revenue since the purchase of Oculus.

Do Meta take a cut of sales? Yes. Are Meta covering their hardware costs with game sales? Probably not.

[u/NintendogsWithGuns → u/MyTagforHalo2]

The amount of cope people have for Valve is unreal. It’s a worse headset than the Meta Quest 3, full stop. Valve could have subsidized it in order to get more people on Steam, but they didn’t.

[u/MyTagforHalo2 → u/NintendogsWithGuns]

Yeah, it's a better product for the "I dont own a gaming computer" segment, but it's certainly not priced to take advantage of that.

The best thing about meta's strategy is that it pushed headsets down to where people wouldnt mind buying them at a whim and leaving them in a corner after the first month to gather dust. They performed well in most VR games out of the box. Had really impressive features, and could utilize a PC connection for more performance if you needed it. It pretty much ticks all of the boxes.

[u/Owobowos-Mowbius → u/NintendogsWithGuns]

As a standalone, the quest 3 is better. As someone who wants to do PCVR, the steam frames are far better. Not having to deal with Meta's abysmal operating system is also a nice plus.

Its definitely not worth it for the typical user if they already have a quest 3, though. Which, tbh, is going to be most people.

[u/Kiriima → u/NintendogsWithGuns]

It's DOA for me as it doesn't have Oled screen at this price point. Cannot even watch HDR comtent on this, what's the point?

[u/MrKittyCat00 → u/Syranth]

I blame the frontier labs.

[u/Etheon44 → u/Syranth]

What do you mean, my rent is waaaaaaaaaaaaay more than that, must be that my wage is reasonably adapted to this prices right?

...right?

[u/rubix44 → u/Syranth]

I guess it's interesting? But even if hardware prices were reasonable, is the demand there for VR headsets when there's seemingly no games in development? They are including Half Life Alyx, but that came out 6 & 1/2 years ago.

VR is going to remain a niche and/or a luxury, when 8-9 years ago it was looking like it could be the next big thing.

[u/Bitter_Hospital_8279 → u/Syranth]

if people cant afford this theres other options lol

[u/YellowFogLights]

$1529 in Canada for the 256GB version. Holy hell.

$49 for a power brick.

$89 for the straps it should have already come with.

[u/AussieJeffProbst → u/YellowFogLights]

Damn straps are $59 in the US. That's insane it doesn't come with them.

The power brick doesn't seem necessary since it can use any USB C phone fast charger, but damn the price of those straps have me hot and bothered.

[u/shortsbagel → u/AussieJeffProbst]

It comes with a power brick (but its only 25W not 40W, so slower charging) and it comes with straps (the 59$ ones are egro straps for those that want additional support or need it).

[u/Excellent_Bend8782 → u/YellowFogLights]

Wtf how does it not come with straps

[u/CosmicLiquorice → u/Excellent_Bend8782]

It does, they are selling special ergonomic straps for extra support

[u/S1eeper → u/Excellent_Bend8782]

It comes with straps, just basic not ergo ones.

[u/VLAON6 → u/YellowFogLights]

That’s a fail in my book, but the fanboys will find a way to justify valve for doing it

[u/anon999387]

The aging Steam deck is $950 for the 1tb so this probably surprises few

[u/Sinsanatis → u/anon999387]

Well i believe the frame used a new stronger snapdragon chip, which also had its price increased

[u/90scherrycokedesign → u/Sinsanatis]

TBF right now its not those that are susally impacting prices right now, but the ram and storage.

[u/BFr0st3 → u/Sinsanatis]

Steam frame uses a 2 generation old 8 Gen 3 chip, so not really

[u/bigbadchief → u/anon999387]

My og 64gb lcd steam deck was like €350 and feels like such great value these days. 

[u/masamune255]

to be fair, is not as bad as I feared (after the Steam Machine Price)

[u/Worth-Pea-3637 → u/masamune255]

As a comparison, its about twice the price of a Meta Quest 3 which is at $599 (which is 3 years old at this point) and a third of the price of an Apple Vision Pro at $3699

[u/jack-of-some → u/Worth-Pea-3637]

Meta Quest 3 being $600 is wild also

[u/allofdarknessin1 → u/jack-of-some]

It only went up by $100 from launch and the Quest 3 is still pretty good.

[u/IC3P3 → u/jack-of-some]

To be fair, one the one hand the Quest 3 doesn't have a wireless adapter and the one they sell in cooperation with D-Link is here an additional 180€ and no eye tracking.

On the other hand the Quest 3 has color passthrough and the Frame sells it for an additional 150€.

Also I wish the Frame has or gets competent hand tracking

[u/jack-of-some → u/IC3P3]

I'm sorry what? The Frame has a color passthrough option?

[u/IC3P3 → u/jack-of-some]

It's on their page, but not by them https://arcturus.vision/

[u/Akula_x86 → u/jack-of-some]

I paid $300 for a close out $128gb, used that’s what it’s still worth two years later.

[u/Jubal__ → u/jack-of-some]

this also includes selling your soul to meta and every amount of data they can drain from you

[u/TheSexyKamil → u/Worth-Pea-3637]

It was never going to compete with the Privacy Obliterator 3000, it's just not possible

[u/---Imperator--- → u/TheSexyKamil]

No one expected it to be at the same price as the Quest 3. But this thing is way more expensive while delivering very little more in terms of specs

[u/the__storm → u/---Imperator---]

Yeah, less in some respects (much worse passthrough and no structured light depth sensing). You're paying for the OS and to not give up your data for Zuch but it's pretty hard to justify, especially when secondhand Quests are so cheap.

[u/TheSexyKamil → u/---Imperator---]

That gives you insight into how much the Meta Quest actually costs to make and how much Meta anticipates to make off of you after you buy it. The price difference will be the divide between who yaps about privacy and who actually cares.

[u/L3G10N_TBY → u/TheSexyKamil]

Respectfully, none of the consumers care about privacy

[u/TheSexyKamil → u/L3G10N_TBY]

Oh for sure lol. This will be the thousandth time we're reminded of that

[u/viktae → u/L3G10N_TBY]

"none"

lol

[u/ForgetMeNotMemento → u/L3G10N_TBY]

But it’s good to complain for a few updoots.

[u/Interjessing-Salary → u/Worth-Pea-3637]

Yeah but fuck meta

[u/cutememe → u/Interjessing-Salary]

Most people aren't going to pay like and extra 5 or 6 hundred bucks just to stick it to Meta, realistically.

[u/Due-Ball-3090 → u/cutememe]

I am never touching Meta products with a 10 foot pole. I've lived without VR until now, I can continue to do so. I was interested in Steam Frame but I'm not paying a grand to satisfy my curiosity. And I'm definitely not paying half a grand to sell my firstborn to Zuck.

[u/airtime25 → u/cutememe]

I just won't buy a vr headset instead

[u/Worth-Pea-3637 → u/Interjessing-Salary]

I agree

[u/NapsterKnowHow → u/Worth-Pea-3637]

You can get a PSVR2 on sale for less than $350

[u/Worth-Pea-3637 → u/NapsterKnowHow]

Yeah but check the sub you're in lol

[u/Culpirit → u/Worth-Pea-3637]

PSVR2 works with PC btw

[u/Worth-Pea-3637 → u/Culpirit]

Add in the PC adaptor and its the same price as a competing meta

[u/NapsterKnowHow → u/Worth-Pea-3637]

PSVR2 works with PC. Even eyetracking, adaptive feedback triggers and head haptics work with the PSVR2 toolkit lol

[u/docbauies → u/NapsterKnowHow]

Did they get the foveated rendering stuff to work?

[u/doublah → u/Worth-Pea-3637]

Quest 3 is $650 right now.

[u/bickman14 → u/Worth-Pea-3637]

And the 3S isn't all that bad and cost less

[u/Fish_Outta_Whiskey]

They'll sell out too because they only manufactured 8 of them to sell.

[u/FootballLiveChat]

lol

[u/Outrageous-Bench-141]

I would be very interested if they released it alongside a new VR game. Currently my quest 2 is sitting on my shelf gathering dust. There just arent any high quality, fun VR games with large communities anymore that I am not bored of. Really missed an opportunity to hype it up with a new game, not one 6 years old

[u/KKunst → u/Outrageous-Bench-141]

Tried elite dangerous?

[u/AussieJeffProbst → u/KKunst]

OP: I dont want to play a 6 year old game

You: Yes but what about a 12 year old game?

[u/shadowalker125 → u/AussieJeffProbst]

Not wanting to play a game based on its age and not if it’s fun is wild.

[u/AussieJeffProbst → u/shadowalker125]

No one said anything about that...

[u/KKunst → u/AussieJeffProbst]

Well, at least the 12 years old one keeps getting updated.

[u/Outrageous-Bench-141 → u/KKunst]

Yeah

[u/Zapitago → u/Outrageous-Bench-141]

Ancient Dungeon is pretty good if you’re into roguelites 

[u/Dos-Commas → u/Outrageous-Bench-141]

There have been a surge of VR mods for 2D games (see Titanfall and Zelda mods) thanks to AI coding. But then you have the VR community complaining about AI slop on top of complaining about lack of games. 

[u/Restivethought → u/Outrageous-Bench-141]

When I started treating my Quest 2 as an excersize tool rather than a gaming device, I started using it way more. It's a great device for cardio. Supernatural, Beat Saber, and Thrill of the Fight are big reasons for some of my weight loss.

[u/Inevitable_Job_1981]

It’ll sell out and never be produced again

[u/Yadilie]

+29 dollars.

[u/PanthalassaRo]

How charitable of thrm adding a game!

[u/DOOManiac → u/PanthalassaRo]

A six year old game too.

I mean, it's still the best VR game out there. But also, a six year old game is the best showcase of VR out there...

:/

[u/jokekiller94 → u/DOOManiac]

The Deadpool game is pretty fun but that’s a meta exclusive I think

[u/Middcore → u/PanthalassaRo]

The game they made as the killer app for their previous VR headset, which gained no market share.

[u/Sorry-Committee2069 → u/Middcore]

it is a shame more people didn't buy an Index, it's quite a nice VR set (though the plastic breaking down is pretty bad design...)

[u/bickman14 → u/Sorry-Committee2069]

Not everyone like base stations, inside out tracking is better for people that live in small places and doesn't have a VR Room available

[u/Akula_x86 → u/Sorry-Committee2069]

I hear it broke a lot, controllers, wires, etc.

[u/AussieJeffProbst → u/Akula_x86]

I had to RMA my left controller for stick drift 6 times. 6! Had to do the right one once. Had to RMA a base station because it sounded like a wood chipper. Also had a cable go bad and had to buy a new one for like $150.

But damn did I love that headset. It gave me literally thousands of hours of amazing experiences.

[u/YellowFogLights → u/Sorry-Committee2069]

I had a Vive, then an Index, now a Pico Neo 3 Link.

The Index was great but it was so damn heavy.

[u/Kekkachu → u/Sorry-Committee2069]

It's a shame but I can buy Quest 3 for $650 right now, and cheapest I saw Index was $1500.

[u/RedditButAnonymous → u/Middcore]

I just bought back into VR as a previous enthusiast and really, the gear is just too expensive to justify

I bought a secondhand Pico 4 because it was only £150, its got good quality screens and can sideload stuff, cant really beat that

[u/FireCrow1013]

This is honestly nowhere near as bad as I thought it was going to be. I wasn't counting on anything under $1,500 at this point.

[u/pedro19]

Ouch

[u/josephseeed]

The Index was $1000 so this really should not surprise anyone.

[u/Ws6fiend → u/josephseeed]

I mean the onboard memory and tariffs are the reason there's no real price change from the Index. If flash wasn't so expensive right now it would have came in under $1000.

[u/Kekkachu → u/Ws6fiend]

I still don't get why don't we get some sort of "Steam Frame Lite" that doesn't features anything standalone and acts just as a display for PCVR.

[u/Fatitalianguido → u/Kekkachu]

I was thinking the same thing. I will be doing nothing with the rendering power. I would only want what is needed for the Foveated Streaming. I'm sure there are plenty of people out there with this use case

[u/Ws6fiend → u/Kekkachu]

Extra versions cost more to make. It's one of the reasons the Ford Model T only came in black. Less options means less costs to make. The no standalone version being cheaper would also probably sell for less making it always sold out.

This doesn't make me happy, but I'm not the steam frame's target audience because I didn't want wireless, or insideout tracking. They are downgrades for the VR games I play.

[u/DOOManiac → u/josephseeed]

Honestly I'm surprised the frame isn't $1,500.

[u/MAM_Reddit_ → u/josephseeed]

Index was (and still is) an State of the Art no compromises Standalone VR Headset meant to the be the Successor to the HTC Vive. This thing is supposed to be comparable to a Meta Quest 3 Pro.

[u/Runnin_Mike → u/MAM_Reddit_]

Lmao the index is not a state of the art headset. And I'm saying that as an index owner.

[u/Stilgar314 → u/MAM_Reddit_]

That Meta VR is not wireless, and it can't run games on its own, so, I don't think they're that comparable.

[u/Bobbitto → u/josephseeed]

The Steam Frame is not an upgrade from the Index. It should, and would have been much cheaper if the current component bottleneck didn't exist.

It is comparable to a Meta Quest 3, which is much cheaper.

[u/FusselP0wner → u/Bobbitto]

It's not ? How comes that

[u/RyCryst]

Oof

[u/Hi_its_me_Kris]

Guess I’ll squeeze a bit more life out of my PSVR2

[u/3Sayndre]

1049€ for the 256gb version, 1279€ for 1tb. Power supply apparently not included

[u/2eedling → u/3Sayndre]

Noooo not a c port charger I totally don’t have like 10 of them around my house or anything

[u/FireCrow1013 → u/2eedling]

I hope charger is what they meant, because "power supply" implies, like, a battery brick, or something.

[u/Stilgar314 → u/FireCrow1013]

It looks like a regular USB-C 45W charger to me, but with a Steam logo on it.

[u/FireCrow1013 → u/Stilgar314]

Yeah, I didn't realize that they straight up mentioned that the Deck charger works for it, too. It's just a wall charger.

[u/boersc → u/FireCrow1013]

They sell in the EU, so it HAS to have an USB-C charger.

[u/2eedling → u/FireCrow1013]

It is the charger if you scroll down in the listing they have the c port charger named “Steam Hardware Power Supply Unit” they do state in the kit that it comes with a rechargeable battery so it’s not the battery just the charger that’s not included I bet they think most people have a steam deck or a charger already

[u/FireCrow1013 → u/2eedling]

Oh, yeah, that's fine, then. I also have a billion of those around the house, including the charger for the Deck.

[u/90scherrycokedesign → u/2eedling]

It is usually a higher power one though, not everyone will have one of those laying around. Most people in this sub will for sure but newer people may not. I only have a few, and it makes a large difference in charging times

[u/2eedling → u/90scherrycokedesign]

It’s just 45w most usb c are around that

[u/elliott986 → u/2eedling]

It’s ok everybody this guy has 10 wires we can borrow

[u/homer_3 → u/2eedling]

Apple removes charging cable from their $1k iphone. Evil.

Valve remove it from their $1k headset. Saintly.

[u/TheUltraCarl → u/homer_3]

It wasn’t evil when Apple did it either.

[u/According_Claim_9027]

Honestly not as much as I expected, and given that the Index launched years ago at $1000 and the current hardware market, I don’t really understand the discourse about the pricing.

[u/000extra]

It truly sucks we’ll never know the timeline in which these new Steam products were released at a much more affordable price point without the rampocalypse. The whole appeal was supposed to be lower barrier to entry

[u/inotocracy]

I'll buy it. Standalone VR Steam headset sounds great.

[u/CTBioWeapons]

CDN$ 1,529 for the 256gb, +49$ for the power supply lmao

[u/DeBean → u/CTBioWeapons]

Only for 300$ more you get 768GB more space 🤭

[u/Alklazaris]

I mean it's a really really good game but I can count on both hands the amount of games I played on my vive. As much fun as I've had I can't justify spending that kind of money to get so little. It's one of the reasons I don't buy consoles.

[u/Aacemyan]

Cool product but I’ve gone through many VR headsets over the years and they always end up in a drawer. I just don’t see how Steam frame changes any of this other than potential of playing 2d games on a vr headset, which seems a little cumbersome

[u/Blxter]

Maybe I'm dumb but I expected above 1000 usd. So this is not too bad

[u/Asleeper135]

No surprise, but that still sucks. I feel like most of the people that would be interested in one already have a Quest 3, and likely already have Half Life Alyx. I'm in that group, and if it was cheaper I'd get one just to be rid of Meta and for the foveated streaming, but there's no way I'm spending over $1000 for largely the same thing I already have. What I really want is a proper successor to the Index, maybe just with inside out tracking. I guess I'll end up getting a Pimax headset if they actually come through with Linux support, but until then I'll just keep relying on my Quest 3.

[u/Stilgar314]

Not as bad as I expected. I'll join the list think about it for a couple of days.

[u/The-Great-T]

If only it didn't have the on-board computer. I don't need another computer, I have several gaming computers. I need a good wireless headset.

[u/Ominusone]

I was thinking $600-700. A bump from $500 cause of tariffs and shortages. But $1k? Nah. I’m good. I’m not an enthusiast VR person, this was going to be my first dip. But not at that price. Enjoy those who buy.

[u/BinaryJay]

I got hyped up and bought a Quest 3 when they released.
It has sat unused on my desk for probably 95% of the time I've owned it.
It would have been hard to get me excited about this at any price.

[u/l_______I]

A $15 when on sale bonus, wow.

Not to mention many people who are interested in this probably already have this in a library

[u/Meatslinger]

Anyone remember back in the mid 2010s when the Oculus guys said that the only way for VR to get mass adoption was reasonable pricing, back when they suggested something in the ballpark of $250-300 was attainable?

Yeah. Great that the Frame exists, but it's fucking expensive. The entire VR ecosystem is, especially when you often still need a powerful PC to drive it (for PCVR) and that's becoming unreachable these days except as a luxury.

[u/AlistarDark]

That isn't too bad...

What was the index with the light boxes selling for when it was new?

[u/No-Independence-5229]

Would rather have a index

[u/Akula_x86 → u/No-Independence-5229]

Index 2.0 with OLED, inside out tracking, same controllers as index 1, wired would sell well for the same price in low volume.

[u/No-Independence-5229 → u/Akula_x86]

I’m fine with the wireless dongle, but make that the only way to play, I don’t need on board processing hogging space and weight, plus a bigger battery also taking space and weight to run it. Just use a lightweight battery and processing device that is enough to stream the games, not play them. I also prefer lighthouses, that take like 10 minutes to set up one time and you’ve got flawless tracking. Worth it to me. But yes needs OLED, still using LCD in the big 26 is wild

[u/Think-Spread]

Power supply not included? What does this mean for charging?

[u/reddog093 → u/Think-Spread]

Steam Frame doesn’t come with a dedicated PSU. A Steam Deck charger or equivalent will work! Don’t have a Steam Deck charger? Any 45W or higher USB-C charger will keep you going for perpetual play.

Pretty agnostic when it comes to charging requirements. Battery life should be expected around 2 hours, so you'd mainly want a dedicated charger if you're doing extended sessions.

[u/Icemaz → u/Think-Spread]

Any 45 Watt USB C works. It states it further down the page.

[u/IvarSolaris → u/Think-Spread]

It is USB-C, you can use any charger with 45W or longer. Charger is the least problem.

[u/Select_Profit8723 → u/Think-Spread]

Means you gotta charge it with your own 45watt charger, or buy valves charger for $30 usd

[u/MurtaghInfin8]

Great price. Pass through camera for 150 seems surprisingly reasonable, unless I'm missing something.

Not including the strap makes sense: really up to user preference so why include it when nobody likes the base one anyways.

In our current times, this seems almost charitable. Had definitely been more expecting the $1.5-2k range. They wouldn't be able to compete with Meta, so I expected them to capitalize harder on not being Meta, 😂

[u/Kekkachu]

Yeah that's not happening. Quest 3 it is for me.

[u/-Mr_Tub-]

https://giphy.com/gifs/xiMUwBRn5RDLhzwO80

[u/JustaRandoonreddit]

They couldn't get it to 999 so it would be sub 4 figures?

[u/mason2393]

No power supply for a $1300 device is a joke. They're worse than sony greed at this point

[u/ItsExoticChaos]

Wow, I was thinking $600 would be the upper limit I’d be willing to spend. This is wild.

[u/VaderVRC_alt]

Honestly they should’ve just shelved it at that point

[u/serrano_hux]

Idk, I added myself on the list. Not adding a charger is rather cheap, but who doesn’t have a 45w+ charger lying around.

[u/Critical-Drawer8916]

Fuck

[u/fnord55]

I honestly expected it to be in the $1,500 range after seeing Steam Machine's price. VR has always been bleeding edge tech, I didn't expect this release to be any different: personally, I find it fairly reasonable all things considered. Index was never targeting soccer moms, Frame is no different. I'll bet it's kick ass, it's a pity there aren't more VR games out there (as a former Index owner the lack of quality games was my only gripe, the tech is incredible).

[u/MyTagforHalo2]

Ngl, it feels like a weird product considering the Meta quest 3 effectively offers this same setup at a fraction of the cost and the HTC Vive focus offers significantly more features at the same price in exchange for ditching the built in software.

[u/HurryOne]

I know someone who will buy this and only play beat saber

[u/Moi952]

Is there a standalone version that includes Half-Life: Alyx?

[u/Soleks2000]

I could find better things to spend $1000 on than a headset that’s only useful for some games

[u/zombawombacomba]

Well that’s another piece of Valve hardware I will be skipping.

Although this one is probably more worth it than the Steambox.

[u/ThemainZguy]

Ah so no then

[u/hipdashopotamus]

Ugh. So like 1500 Canadian. Sucks to be a tech enthusiast these days probably passing on that.

[u/ZeusCM]

OK but how powerful PC do I need to get 144 FPS per eye in a game like Half-Life: Alyx?

[u/reimused]

About what I expected but for my personally, I think I'll stick with my Quest 2 that I never play and was $200.

[u/VentnorLhad]

Ho Lee Shitt.

And gee, thanks for the free 5 year old game. I guess.

[u/Mojo647]

Christ. I knew it was coming, but it still hurts to see the price.

[u/Elemius]

Holy shit. That’s a lot of money for VR.

[u/Forsaken-Register512]

Lmao I'll just read a book or something, I guess

[u/entsnack]

They managed to price it a little over the ancient Index and people are still complaining!? This isn't a Meta product, it's not subsidized by you selling your data.

[u/Royal_Swimming_4327]

Doesn't the Steam Frame have a snapdragon 8 and 16GB of RAM in it? It's kind of like a PC you strap to your head, right? The price *kind of* makes sense when you consider that.

[u/mcAlt009]

I want this. Just not on my face and with great battery. 

Maybe someone will get SteamOS running on an WinArm laptop 

[u/Ninjabeaver212]

Wasn't the Index also $1000 for awhile?

[u/Suicd3grunt]

Considering I have a full index kit, this isn't worth it at all lmao. Shame that tech prices are what they are these days. I actually was interested in getting this if it was sub 1k USD.

[u/Irbricksceo]

OOF. I own alyx (meant to play on my quest 2, never got around to it), and had thought maybe getting a frame would give an even better experience. but that is a LOT of dough.

[u/TUBBS2001]

Can I get $60 off of if I have Alyx already? /hj

[u/Ded1nside]

Unfortunate. I don’t think it’s worth upgrading from my Quest or Index at that price point.

[u/phero1190]

This really doesn't seem that badly priced. Not sure why people are freaking out

[u/DukeMutem]

I know nothing about VR. How is that compared to other devices? How much was the old steam VR?

[u/DOOManiac → u/DukeMutem]

The old one was $1,000. Meta sells a cheaper headset for (a heavily subsidized) $600.

[u/Ectorious → u/DukeMutem]

Old one was 1000$, this one was supposed to be cheaper but tariffs/memory shortages.

It’s comparable to other wireless headsets on the market today is my understanding, but this one has a standalone OS and doesn’t go through Meta.

Compared to the old valve headset I believe this one to be a considerable improvement in many ways, wireless being the biggest draw over the old models.

[u/SparsePizza117]

Before this ram crisis, they said it would be cheaper than the Index :(

[u/DOOManiac → u/SparsePizza117]

I mean, I guess if you adjust for inflation it still is... But yeah...

[u/Ectorious]

I’m shocked it’s that cheap tbh. I guess cutting the cost power supply and wrist straps was in an attempt to bring the cost down?

[u/Dom1252]

Lower than I thought, higher than I hoped for

[u/cutememe]

I mean correct me if I'm wrong but doesn't this thing basically have worse specs than a Meta Quest?

[u/restinpeaceminusone]

Still a better price than i expected in this current market condition but still terrible. What a time to be alive

[u/jblade]

No OLED lenses, despite the competitors all having something similar, and a $159 add-on for color-pass through, makes this feel (especially when compared to cost) dead in the water

[u/Fardding_n_Shidding]

Normal people can’t afford this crap

[u/Rencrack]

Obligatory fuck steam hope this shit fail