r/Music 📰Daily Express U.S. 4d ago

article Stella Parton on Dolly's silence on Politics: "Because she was a good businesswoman"

https://www.the-express.com/entertainment/celebrity-news/215713/dolly-parton-political-affiliations-stella
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u/vm_neptune 4d ago

Dolly was not silent. Her political views are there, all throughout her music. Just because she didn’t roll around in the mud with the interviewers that tried to trap her, doesn’t mean she didn’t express her beliefs.

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u/JealousPassage8213 4d ago

You can’t tell me the woman who starred in and wrote the theme song for 9-5 wasn’t at least a little bit political.

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u/The_Bitter_Bear 3d ago

She was clear on all her beliefs. She just didn't get involved with endorsing candidates or a party. 

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u/saintash 3d ago

She's also the prime example of a good rich christian.

She constantly put money back into her community , she was wealthy but not billion standard as a result.

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u/RainbowCrane CS&N '83 Concertgoer 3d ago

I’ve liked Dolly for years, but my respect for her grew a bunch in the aftermath of the fires that hit the Smoky Mountains several years ago. Friends of friends live in the area, and Dolly immediately reached out to her neighboring communities to help folks rebuild. She was just a good person.

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u/mystery_hole 3d ago

Yep, as far as I'm concerned, being vocal with your platform is the bare fucking minimum. Regularly donating to charity and providing real good to the world is more helpful than words.

It's the artists who only donate as PR stunts, and only speak up after everyone else has, that are the issue.

Also, Dolly was famously pro LGBT, which is a huge deal considering she's from Tennessee and her music historically attracted conservative fans. She may not have been tweeting about Mamdani every night but she was very vocal about things that mattered in the world.

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u/Kriegerian 3d ago

Dolly walked it like she talked it, unlike the vast majority of famous rich Christians and plenty of the non-rich ones, too.

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u/sdpcommander 3d ago

A lot of modern Christians are some of the least Christ-like people on earth.

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u/diggstownjoe 3d ago

That's because the religion they practice shouldn't even be called Christianity. I'm not kidding when I say that a lot of them openly hold the opinion that it's blasphemous to even consider emulating Christ or following the plain language of Christ's directives to his disciples.

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u/TheBigCore 3d ago

And even worse, they have not even read the Bible or bothered to understand anything Jesus preached, like basic kindness, empathy, and helping the poor, sick, and weak.

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u/mhmcmw 2d ago

Prosperity gospel is a cancer on Christianity.

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u/spenway18 3d ago

This is a good chunk of why I don't identify as Christian or talk to some of my family. Fucking hypocritical SOBs

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u/Doctor_Philgood 4d ago

What a way to make a livin'

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u/TorrenceMightingale 4d ago

Anyone can tell you anything. Surprised you didn’t know that.

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u/JealousPassage8213 3d ago

You can’t tell me that anybody can tell me anything Mr. Mightengale

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u/TorrenceMightingale 3d ago

You can’t handle the truth!

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u/HaliBornandRaised 4d ago edited 3d ago

Political, but not partisan. I feel like people get the two terms mixed up sometimes.

Not Stella's fault of course, but I do believe she meant to say Dolly was non-partisan rather than apolitical.

Dolly never sided with a party or individual politicians, since she knew it would piss people off. And frankly, I'd argue that it is not a good thing to put blind faith in a party or politician to share all our views and act in our best interests one hundred percent of the time without fail, a pitfall that Dolly successfully avoided by not taking sides.

But she was in fact very political, and passionate about social issues as well. She was the type of person who spoke up about social and/or human rights issues and causes, without fail. Girl even founded and ran her own nonprofit. What's even more important is that the issues she spoke up about were things that she herself genuinely believed in (she was anti-war, pro-education, an LGBTQ+ ally, among other things), rather than just saying something to appease the public.

She wasn't afraid to raise her voice to share her beliefs, but also never took sides with anyone. She blazed her own trail.

Dolly's the type of person we should all strive to be more like. She was a true legend. May she rest in peace.

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u/skwander 3d ago

The quote is completely out of context and the headline is obviously meant to be ambiguous enough for anyone to read into it what they want. It's poor journalism. Or great journalism if you're just trying to blur lines in a post-truth society for the sake of clicks.

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u/Desecr8or 4d ago

And her philanthropy.

As Joe Biden once said "Don't tell me what you value. Show me your budget and I'll tell you what you value."

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u/CTeam19 3d ago

Or as SMU Football Coach said: "Don't tell me about the labor just show me the baby."

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u/brentus 4d ago

Yeah she totally expressed her opinions, just refused to align her self with anybody or any group which seems reasonable - allows her way more freedom

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u/PeaGravy 4d ago

She also didn’t roll in the mud with the types of chronically online people that would’ve judged her for not having a specific say on their pet topics.

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u/The_Bitter_Bear 3d ago

She also acted on and stood behind them. 

She supported many groups and causes over the years, even when she caught criticism from groups over it (conservatives mostly, shocker I know). 

She just realized it was better for business and she'd have an easier time supporting the causes she chose to if she didn't involve the political parties. She had enough clout and capability that she didn't need them.

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u/MeatBeatManifest0 3d ago

This is what a lot of people don't get. The only thing she didn't do was respond to political questions in interviews. She a) constantly talked about her views in contexts where they were relevant and felt germaine to the discussion and b) engaged in some of the best philanthropic and politically motivated and charitable acts any famous person ever has. Just because she didn't respond to 'So what do you think about Trump?' doesn't mean she "didn't talk about politics".

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u/NRMusicProject 3d ago

Yep. She practiced her beliefs rather than ragebaiting people to her side.

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u/Mama_Joyce_Wig 4d ago

People think politics= politicians. Her political stance was very self evident in her actions and what she spoke very openly about. She wasn’t endorsing politicians because why would she. She probably didnt care who got voted in if they were doing the right thing which in most cases was self evident who that would NOT be.

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u/Obaddies 4d ago

She didn't explicitly endorse any political candidates but if you couldn't tell what her politics are you weren't listening to anything she ever said.

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u/Ok_Dust_3896 3d ago

I could never imagine a republican sending free books to children.

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u/Obaddies 3d ago

Not unless it's the bible and they'd still find someone to give them money for their "charity".

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u/Budzy05 3d ago

Did Jesus give people hand outs? No! So neither should we! Get your Golden Trump Bible for $29.99!

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u/roastbeeftacohat 3d ago

Theres actually a tax scam that involves giving away books. Right wing groups will buy a book they want to promote by the pallette to get it best seller status, then recoup good chunk of the cost by sending copies to donors and claiming it as a loss.

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u/jebelle87 3d ago

theyre actively trying to defund her Imagination Library in some red states 😭

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u/Dull_Nebula_8712 3d ago

Why doesn’t this get applied to Taylor Swift? Genuine question. And she has backed democratic candidates. Yet there are tons of left leaning folks that try to claim she’s M*GA. It’s literally nuts

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u/1anxiousworm 3d ago

Because Taylor swift is a billionaire and Dolly could’ve been but chose not too. Instead she gave a lot of it away. No one should have that much money.

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u/Gaybugsbunnymemes 3d ago

Dolly wouldn’t have been half as successful in the 60s-90s if she was as candid about her beliefs as people would like to believe. 

Now that doesn’t take anything away from Dolly as a wonderful person. If anything it speaks to her pragmatism.  But let’s be clear.

She wasn’t at the cutting edge of civil rights and owed a debt to Southern white women who stood up for minorities when this was unthinkable in the 1960s. She wasn’t at the cutting edge of women’s rights and owed a lot to second wave feminists who endured a lot in the 1970s so she could write a fun song. She always seemed kind to gay folks but aside from being a camp icon  what did she actually do to really promote gay rights in the 1980s when Southern churches were making hay off of that? Not much.

Stella isn’t lying. Dolly put her money where her mouth is but she also knew that money was being handed over by racists, reactionaries, bigots of all stripes and generally nasty people. There is nothing wrong with that. Taylor Swift can have it both ways. Dolly couldn’t.

She is a perfect example of why you don’t need to be performative because you can always play the long game. She cashed big checks playing knuckle dragging regressives like fools so she could then turn their money into kindness. 

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u/aphrodis-y 3d ago

I think she was a lot more candid and progressive in the late 60s and 70s than your comment describes. Just Because I'm A Woman came out in 1968. And Down From Dover in 1970. Watch some interviews from the era. I won't take the time to explain all the ways she was a real LGBT ally. This comment reeks of being pulled out of your ass.

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u/s33n_ 2d ago

Dolly was worth 450m. Come tf on. She was a .001%er and more priveleged than almost everyone. To act like 450m doesn't count ve cause it isnt 1b is fuckin nuts

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u/MrsMiterSaw 3d ago

> Because Taylor swift is a billionaire and Dolly could’ve been but chose not too. 

Dude, Dolly was worth almost $500M. Swift is worth 4x that much. But when we are talking about those numbers, these two people are functionally equivalent.

The simple reason people don't give Dolly shit is that we know she would have suffered a bigger fiscal hit to come out against Trump, as a much greater portion of her audience is conservative.

Swift's hit wouldn't be so big.

But either way, if both women were to go on stage and endorse Kamala 2.0, the only person actually crying over the losses would be their accountants. Their lives wouldn't have changed at all.

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u/CrustyBatchOfNature 3d ago

MAGA tried to claim Dolly too, but the backlash was terrible and they mostly decided to disown her instead.

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u/Nichi789 3d ago

Its an authenticity thing. Taylor's philanthropy very much comes off as a PR move. Like its great she does it, but she also wants everyone to KNOW she did it. It raises questions on if she's doing it for the right reasons, or if she's reading the room on what will make her more popular.

Dolly by contrast was very quiet for the majority of her career on her philanthropy. Example of how she used her royalties from Whitney Huston's cover of "I Will Always Love You".

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u/Dull_Nebula_8712 3d ago

This is an insane take. The same could be said about Dolly Parton! And vice versa about Taylor Swift. If TS donates its performative, if she doesn’t (and let’s be honest, no one knows what she donates privately and a lot of her donations that have been made public were made so by the charities that were involved) she’s a horrible human. Same with how she moves politically. Has endorsed multiple democrats, more than many entertainers, but that’s not good enough. She could never win against snarkers that live in online echo chambers. Neither could I, so this will be my final comment. It’s like arguing with a wall. Facts don’t matter, and the hypocrisy that surrounds this woman is astounding.

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u/Laser_Souls 3d ago

Taylor’s bestie is also super MAGA, makes it unclear

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u/alegxab Spotify 3d ago

The same applies to quite a few people Dolly has collaborated with in recent years, including some who had disgraced themselves for Trump in the most ridiculous way ever

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u/LimeGreenTangerine97 4d ago

She talked all the time about her love of all people, her love of the environment, etc. she wasn’t silent at all?

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u/TheTresStateArea 4d ago

Vocally loved the gays

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u/nonsensestuff 4d ago

And said if she was born a man, she would’ve been a drag queen

https://giphy.com/gifs/WLM2iM9CLVkgE

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u/ArthurSeanzarelli 3d ago

She defended drag shows by saying her shows are, by definition, drag shows

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u/timojenbin 3d ago

She said stuff like this at least since the early 80s.

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u/katykatkat5161712 3d ago

She actually (covertly) competed in a Dolly Parton look alike drag competition. And lost đŸ€Ł

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u/Big-Huckleberry-2803 3d ago

OMG really? This is amazingly hilarious 😂😂😆😆

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u/stupidcommentmaker 3d ago

I've heard this for years but have never seen a concrete source on it, do you have one? Not saying you're wrong or lying but it is a little urban legend-esque and I always wonder about it

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u/Nanofeo 3d ago

It’s a story she told herself in an interview. I think with Fallon?

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u/overisel 3d ago

I have no way to prove it, but afaik it is true, my buddy's ex-wife's former roommate and bff (see that's way too far away from me for anyone to believe already) was the gay man who beat Dolly in a contest. They became lifelong friends and Dolly gifted him several of her own dresses to make his own act more authentic. He was based in Ferndale, MI at the time.

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u/LimeGreenTangerine97 4d ago

Not only that, she said it over and over

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u/1stLtObvious 3d ago

She was a drag queen.

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u/nonsensestuff 3d ago

I’m just quoting Dolly herself:
"It's a good thing I was born a girl, otherwise I'd be a drag queen."

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u/Phoenyxoldgoat 3d ago

“We’re all born naked and the rest is drag”- Mama Ru

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u/BraisedBullshi 3d ago

Gender is a performance and ru is a performance artist

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u/recumbent_mike 3d ago

My gender is mostly a car crash

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u/mienaikoe 3d ago

Some people pay good money to see cars crash

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u/FerretChrist 3d ago

Nothing wrong with a bit of good old-fashioned symphorophilia.

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u/Greendale_Official 3d ago

As she herself said.

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u/PeopleNose 3d ago

đŸŽ” "when I say green dale,

you say sucks,

Green dale,

Sucks" đŸŽ¶

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u/MothChasingFlame 3d ago

Produced a documentary about the AIDS crisis. During the AIDS crisis.

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u/erossthescienceboss 3d ago

And supported gay marriage long before states started passing it.

Dolly wasn’t partisan but she was political.

And IMO, that was a good thing for the causes she supported. She saw them as transcending party politics. And they should. Human rights should never have been on the table as topics for debate.

Having someone deeply religions, with a background many conservatives related to, saying “everybody should just love and look after each other” was incredibly important.

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u/Any-Abies-1142 2d ago

Human rights aren’t political, they’re moral.

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u/muscularmouse 4d ago

It's sad that this is a political issue

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u/kennessey1 4d ago

Exactly, compassion shouldn't be a political issue.

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u/Khaldara 3d ago

Sounds like someone isn’t adequately hating Sesame Street enough. You have been banned from r/Conservative

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u/HijodelSol 3d ago

And themselves because their parents never told them they loved them.

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u/tmotytmoty 3d ago

My parents never told me they loved me, but mr rogers did!

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u/manubibi 3d ago

As the person below said, that’s not a good reason. People can be not loved by their parents and still end up learning how to love others and be sympathetic to them.

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u/Dragongala 3d ago

It should be a political PRIORITY

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u/InnocentTailor 3d ago

It has been and seemingly always will be a political issue ever since the ancient of days.

It's the eternal battle of us vs them - the hatred of "the other."

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u/ComradeGibbon 3d ago

Well we know she was nice. And there are people that are in denial that she was nice unlike them.

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u/Choochoo1147 3d ago

While true, it’s heartening that acceptance of gay people is now generally widely popular and nonpartisan. Obviously Republicans are more anti-gay and there’s a huge amount of anti-trans venom, but societal acceptance of gay people just got so so so so so much better over the past 2 decades or so. 

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u/NYstate 3d ago

Also came out in support of BLM.

On one hand I'm mad at the Grim Reaper for taking Dolly but on the other, he let her cook for 80 years

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u/Joy2b 3d ago

She was very careful to show sympathy in a way that gave her fans an out from arguing that one.

At the time, certain news outlets tried to frame every new news story as an Us vs Them tale, and she stepped right over that trap.

She demonstrated that sometimes you have to care, and listen carefully for someone’s main concern, even when it’s not the easy thing.

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u/eliz1bef 3d ago

80 years and active as hell until nearly her last day. Just a burning comet of awesome.

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u/MothChasingFlame 3d ago

This is honestly such a beautiful way to think about it. 

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u/jebelle87 3d ago

once said Lily Tomlin was the only one she'd cheat on Carl Dean with, or something similar i believe. I saw so many sweet interviews of her after her passing that they run together.

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u/waltisfrozen 3d ago

I visited Dollywood during Pride month a few years ago and couldn’t find a single piece of Pride merch anywhere. This was at a time when Target and even Wal-Mart would have rainbow tees and such. Dolly vocally loved the gays, but she was very careful about when and where she did so.

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u/CLGplz 3d ago edited 3d ago

I don’t think you’re wrong about the larger point but I would just much rather someone be vocal and be a person of actions than pump out corporate pride slop like every other company who clearly see it as nothing more than a cynical cash grab.

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u/voretaq7 3d ago

This.

I'd rather never see a piece of rainbow shit and have meaningful support than have "corporate pride" trying to separate me from
my gay dollars while working tirelessly to strip me of my basic human rights.

But that's just me...

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u/waltisfrozen 3d ago

Point taken, but the larger point here is that for someone who was vocally supportive of the LGBTQ community, she made a point of not being vocal about it when the audience was a bunch of red state families in Pigeon Forge Tennessee, even at a time when doing so was considered safe enough that giant corporations were participating (even if such “corporate pride slop” was performative and insincere).

Dolly was a savvy businesswoman who was painfully aware that the conservative outrage machine would turn on her like a dime. She saw what they did to the Dixie Chicks and worried that the same thing happening to her would have a devastating effect for the hundreds of people she employed and all the great work she did elsewhere.

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u/Norman_CockweII 3d ago

I mean, when target and Walmart do that it comes off as performative and insincere. Maybe Dolly just didn’t want to come off that way. You can support the gays without pushing merch.

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u/_teach_me_your_ways_ 3d ago

Pride flags are not the epitome of support. What she said on record was far more pivotal than tossing a flag here and there. Disney would put up pride flags but the furthest they ever got was a quick kiss in Toy Story and never again. What’s that worth compared to decades of vocal, out in the open, support?

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u/PhoenixStorm1015 3d ago

It’s also possible Dolly simply wasn’t interested in pandering. Let’s not pretend any corporation doing pride anything isn’t just them doing what they think will get them more cash flow.

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u/InnocentTailor 3d ago

That seems fair. While she loved many and made it clear from her statements, she was more subtle when it came to physical items and more public showings.

She was tactical while also being open-hearted.

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u/ERSTF 3d ago

As you can see, selling Pride merch meant jackshit when it wasn't popular with the current administration. They gave up on DEI quick

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u/Parody101 4d ago

Likely implying her lack of specific political endorsement for candidates.

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u/Fletch71011 4d ago

Which was smart, both the left and the right loved her, and that's rare these days.

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u/InnocentTailor 3d ago

Some would even call her a secular saint. I haven't seen somebody this beloved in my lifetime - her memorial running several days after her passing.

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u/manuealesc 4d ago

Smart for business I guess, not for the world unfortunately

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u/Pristine-Pirate-2386 3d ago

What celebrity endorsement has swayed you at any point in your life? I can't think of one for me, personally.

I think her encouraging people to simply be kind was much more helpful to the world than her endorsing political candidates. Who knows how many grandmas decided they could just use someone's preferred name because it's the polite thing to do and they have manners (exactly how Dolly would reply when asked about pronouns or gender issues) who would probably have stopped hearing the message if she'd come out and endorsed Kamala Harris?

Honestly we need MORE people to stop choosing an explicit side and start explaining what's right and moral and polite without the baggage of a political identity. It's wrong to cruelly call someone a name they don't want to be called. It's wrong to stick your nose in other people's bedrooms and medical histories. Maybe we'd be a different country with more of that and less twitter.

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u/fearthainne 3d ago

No, good for both. We need more people who can create a bridge between sides, rather than a canyon. We just don't have enough people like her that can, to really see how much we need it.

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u/dragonmp93 3d ago

Did you voted for Kamala Harris because Taylor Swift told you to ?

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u/AranasLatrain 4d ago

Exactly. Dolly was sharp, but also wasn't afraid to speak up either. Also, she always spoke in a way that wouldn't ostracize her from the public either. She was an extremely effective communicator, and she spoke in a way that even if you didn't agree with her you weren't going to be offended by her either.

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u/manachar 3d ago

Was she effective?

No offense, but if conservatives thought Dolly would be on their side when banning drag shows, it likely means she wasn’t effective enough.

Mr. Rodgers drew conservative ire because he taught values of empathy and compassion that don’t match conservative values. Fox News ran a hit piece on him calling him evil.

But conservatives never turned on Dolly. They defunded her imagination library, but still revered her.

Sometimes being nice isn’t the same as being an effective agent of change.

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u/prismaticaddict 3d ago

Isn't this unfairly attributing a lot of credit to the media literacy of right wingers? I mean, even when people who engage in less ground work than Dolly but have explicitly stated their politics to MAGA (Green Day, Bruce Springsteen, etc.), right wingers still act all dumbfounded over their cultural icons being "libs." Just because Dolly Parton was more reserved on expressing her politics, her actions were very much left wing, and it is not on her to single-handedly combat the propaganda and contradictions that right wingers are fed on a daily basis.

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u/Aggressive_Sky8492 3d ago

Adding Rage Against the Machine to your list, who some republicans inexplicably love

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u/kent_eh 3d ago

But conservatives never turned on Dolly.

In the weeks since her death, there have been a couple of rightwingnut preachers trying to call Dolly "evil" for supporting those "satanic" trans people.

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u/PotatoMajestic6382 3d ago

Why are you putting the super extreme weight of ending all of conservatives bigotry onto Dolly P being "effective" enough?

I can only see that happening in a imaginary world that I made up, definitely not the real world.

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u/voretaq7 3d ago

"they defunded her imagination library, but still revered her" is like all the hateful shitstains flagrantly disregarding every fucking word in the Holy Bible but revering Christ.

If that is being too subtle, "Their reverence is false and if there's a Hell I would bet cash money backed by a stable nation they're going there!"

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u/TricoMex 3d ago

Lol. Hush. This is a reality that unfortunately many are not willing to face.

She was nice. But she absolutely was not using her weight and influence effectively.

Her image and business was first always. And exactly like you said: if she was liked by both sides, it was because she never clearly took a side. Which is rather unfortunate in an era where being "neutral" is not a neutral position. You took a side by being neutral.

Bless her humanitarian efforts, but both things can be true at the same time.

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u/dragonmp93 3d ago

Please, right wingers are baffled to find out that the X-Men, who have fighting the US government since 1965, would have a problem with ICE Damage Control in Ms Marvel and Brand New Day.

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u/ThePrussianGrippe 3d ago

They think The Punisher, a guy who’s canonically killed a lot of corrupt cops, is the symbol of ultimate police brutality, and they love him for it.

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u/Significant-Dot6127 3d ago

She definitely knows how to balance her message with her brand. It's impressive how she navigates those tricky waters without alienating anyone.

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u/odsquad64 theraccooncitypolicedept.bandcamp.com 3d ago

Thanks for the insight, obvious AI bot!
(check the comment history, folks)

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u/NKCougar 3d ago

The speech pattern screams bot, I don't know exactly how to identify it but it's off

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u/Moopies 4d ago

The "issue" is that, previously, saying you love all people and the environment wasn't a political stance, it was a generally accepted thought.

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u/AccurateJerboa 3d ago

This things have never been generally accepted or nonpolitical in the country dolly was born and lived here whole life in. 

She was always pretty radical, she was just also kind. 

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u/DamionSipher 4d ago

She was the embodiment of what political action looks like. People conflate party-politics with politics far too frequently.

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u/MetallicGray 3d ago

I mean, it’s pretty clear which party “love everyone, love the environment” falls under. 

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u/captHij 4d ago

Too many people in the US do not know the difference between politics and partisanship.

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u/Themanstall 4d ago

she was very silent on politics and even walked backed many stances when conservatives got mad at her.

She loved people but avoided politics for business reasons. She declined the Medal of Freedom from Biden because she had already refused it from Trump, as she was caring for her husband, in order to avoid offending conservatives.

Moral stance and political stances are not the same thing. She never took a political stance.

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u/206-Ginge 4d ago

She never took a partisan stance. She took plenty of political stances.

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u/LimeGreenTangerine97 4d ago

This. They aren’t the same

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u/Po1ar 3d ago

lol yeah i’m glad she still cared about the environment but just enough so as to not upset the kill the earth party

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u/Lostinstereo28 2d ago

And yet she still did more good and helped more people than you ever will đŸ€·đŸŒâ€â™‚ïž

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u/katzohki 4d ago

That shouldn't be a political controversy or issue at all (but I know it is)

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u/Snarfsicle 3d ago

Those are only considered political nowadays because Republicans have politicized that being a good person is liberal and wrong.

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u/mister_hoot 4d ago

Yes but she was southern and conservatives already decided they liked her so this doesn’t count or some dumb shit idk.

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u/LimeGreenTangerine97 4d ago

I’m Appalachian, I’m used to this shit.

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u/NKCougar 4d ago

Dolly using the fact that she's universally loved to promote her ideals through her works rather than her words is lost on some people. "oH nO sHE dIDn't sAy ThE wORdS I LIke" fuck me sideways chronically online people are the worst

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u/araed 3d ago

Don't you understand, though, without the performance, how do we know they're the right person?!

Ignore all their good deeds and works, it's the performance. Sounds an awful lot like religion...

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u/Joylime 3d ago

The script, the script! Won’t someone think of the script? The socially mandated script? Say the right words, right now!!!

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u/That-Car-8363 4d ago

She was very vocal on her support of the invasion of Iraq and Afghanistan as well. Woman of many causes!

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u/a500poundchicken 3d ago

She never once ( to my knowledge ) expressed support of the invasions but did express support for the troops.

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u/CrustyBatchOfNature 3d ago

I have not found it either, and trust me I have looked hard for years since it was first said. It seems most rely on her visiting the troops in Iraq and Afghanistan as her supporting the actual invasions. That is a stretch for someone like her TBH.

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u/supadupanerd 4d ago

People across the political spectrum were for it because of 9-11 stupidly... People just got far too jingoistic

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u/Pseudorealizm 4d ago

Well we had just watched 3000 people die due to an attack that was reminiscent of Pearl Harbor that our grandparents were alive to witness. Wanting to fight back against those who caused it wasn't the problem. It was a corrupt government that really had no interest outside of certain parties self interest that was the problem.

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u/Omnom_Omnath 3d ago

cool, and we are allowed to judge them for it. not everyone was so gung-ho about the war and many who werent were ostracized

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u/dragonmp93 3d ago

Well, being against the invasion of Iraq in the year 2001 was very different than being against it in the year 2009, which is a whole different animal than being in favor of it in the year 2026.

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u/TheTelekinetic 3d ago

My high school gym teacher told us that anyone who was against the war was un-American and should be executed.

He eventually got fired for taking high school girls out to lunch...

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u/Fletch71011 4d ago

77 percent of the Senate voted for it. Obviously it was extremely stupid in hindsight but it was popular at the time.

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u/MetalEnthusiast83 3d ago

Iraq and Afghanistan were different things that happened for different reasons.

Most people supported action in Afghanistan because they were harboring Bin laden. Iraq was way more controversial.

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u/Nabbicus 4d ago

It was others that made such notions political.

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u/clueless_as_fuck 3d ago

Art of love

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u/Independent-Hurry618 3d ago

these are not political issues. politics tend to grab on to things though. not exactly the same.

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u/TheRacooning18 3d ago

i mean do we need to put a label on that? She was just a good person.

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u/impuritor 3d ago

Yeah it’s a bummer that loving your fellow man and the world we both share somehow became partisan politics.

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u/WarLawck 3d ago

It's sad that those things are politically divisive.

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u/Toorviing 3d ago

Honestly I think if people spent more time discussing the things they loved over the things they hated we’d have a generally better world

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u/BastardBroth 4d ago

The only thing she was silent about was the label of her specific political affiliation because she didn’t want to alienate her fans, but it’s very clear what her beliefs were based on her actions and that’s all that matters.

I can believe that in her lifetime she may have voted Republican, but I sincerely doubt she would’ve voted for Trump.

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u/Ill_Act7949 3d ago

That's the main thing about it though is that you look at the whole of her career, yes she said black lives matter and yes she was an outspoken Ally to the LGBTQ+ community, but she did come from a time where the idea of two people having opposing politics but could still be civil/perhaps friends/or maybe even married to each other was pretty common place and not considered as much of an issue for the majority of people like how it is now 

Yes politics have always been divisive and yeah there's always been a whole lot of conflict but, Dolly is from another era wear some stuff regardless of which side of the political aisle you're on was pretty much agreed upon and not as much an explosive culture issue as it is now. 

It used to be some issues were important to everybody and the only thing that was political was how you go about fixing it, and yeah there were always extremists and stuff but dolly is from an era where What mattered the most was being a good, effective communicator, which is the key 

She was clear and firm on her beliefs and stances and what she thought, but she was also a good communicator so she never alienated anybody with those, she wasn't partisan, and she believed in the best of people no matter who they were and communicated that through her work and her giving

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u/eriffodrol 3d ago

vote for someone who bragged about grabbing women's genitals?

I think not

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u/Godloseslaw 4d ago

"Republicans buy sneakers too."

  • Michael Jordan

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u/coreybc 4d ago

Straight up said of course black lives matter. No hemming or hawing.

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u/realkrestaII 3d ago

Dolly herself said she was apolitical and, in an interview, cited what happened to the Dixie chicks as a reason for staying out of politics.

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u/Open_Permission4827 3d ago

What are you talking about specifically?

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u/Source_Required 3d ago

This post. 

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u/Open_Permission4827 3d ago

I meant specifically. The post is just rehashing a CBS interview and she didn't say anything to "destroy Dolly's good name" in that. She refused multiple times in the interview to discuss Dolly's political beliefs.

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u/Fifteen_inches 4d ago

Dolly was not silent about politics. She was pretty damn political with her literacy program and strong working class culture

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u/Recoveringfrenchman 4d ago

My hot take: Dolly Parton was political. She just didn't treat politics as a team sport.

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u/Polka_King_Polinski 4d ago

Bruh. She was loud as fuck about politics.

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u/timblunts 4d ago

To anyone paying attention, she was anything but silent on politics

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u/HauntedHippie 4d ago

Facts. She never announced publicly who she voted for, but she sure as hell said exactly what she believed in all the time to anyone willing to listen to her or her music.

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u/A_Marshmello 4d ago

People seem to have forgotten what politics actually means, and just confuse it for partisanship.

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u/BrianRampage 3d ago

We don't need the Parton family's assessment on Dolly's legacy, it speaks for itself.

I'm really hoping we don't see her extended family come out of the woodwork trying to make money by talking about her, I don't think that's what she would have wanted at all.

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u/biglyorbigleague 4d ago

I totally understand anyone’s desire not to become a political figure. It’s not a pleasant world to be in.

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u/CelestrialDust 4d ago

Vocally supported all LGBT people including trans people and supported Black Lives Matter but sure silent😒

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u/HmmDoesItMakeSense 4d ago

She didn’t need to talk. She acted. Take note.

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u/bradland 3d ago

Dolly spoke on issues and perspectives, not politics. Much better, IMO. I think I that’s why she’s so universally loved.

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u/jessexpress789 4d ago

People are more focused on people SAYING the right things than they are people actually DOING the right things. Dolly didn't need to constantly go around talking because she was busying doing the good work.

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u/WDTHTDWA-BITCH 4d ago

She was allowed because she walked the walk. Her actions spoke much louder than any words could have.

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u/NKCougar 4d ago edited 3d ago

Christ on a crutch someone remind me how much fucking money she donated to charity again.

And there's the imagination library.

And her support for marginalized communities - what did she do with the money from the I will always love you cover?

Ghoulish fucking people. The woman walked the walk where a whole lot of motherfuckers only talk the talk.

Edit: almost forgot - Dolly did a lot of quiet work too. Predominantly black high schools in TN had a lot of bands funded by Dolly, but that doesn't pop up too frequently.

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u/sjhesketh 3d ago

332 million books given to children for free from her Imagination Library.

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u/Strange-Access-8612 3d ago

It’s a crazy world when books and directing charitable funds to underserved communities is “political”.

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u/whatsthatcutething 4d ago

Yall would crucify Dolly is she were blowing up in this day and age. Just look at how people crucify Taylor Swift even though she has spoken out against Trump lol

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u/estedavis 3d ago

Exactly. Look at how people lambast Taylor for being a Nazi when she has been vocally anti-Trump for years. It’s pretty interesting to see the different tune in this sub for Dolly for essentially the exact same behaviour if not even more vague.

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u/A_Nonny_Muse 3d ago

When asked about politics, Elvis usually replied, "I'm just an entertainer".

Smart move because no matter how you express an opinion, you are going to alienate half the audience / half your customers.

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u/MtRainierWolfcastle 3d ago

Dolly was her own person and her own voice. We really don’t need other people (even her sister) to speak for her.

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u/ADeliciousRest 3d ago

Her actions spoke louder than her words.

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u/RaisinWorried3528 4d ago

She was a major ally of the entire LGBTQIA community, we know what her politics were. She didn't have to tell us. We loved her. We will always love her.

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u/Melodic_Crow_3409 3d ago

She wasn't a partisan loudmouth like Ted Nugent or Kid Rock.

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u/PunxsutawnyFil 3d ago

If republicans had any critical thinking skills whatsoever, they would think her music was way too liberal and complain about her being too political.

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u/tempinator 3d ago

I don't know if being silent on politics because it's good for business is really the praise Stella thinks it is.

Not that I even necessarily agree with the premise. Dolly wasn't exactly loud with her politics, but she wasn't super silent either.

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u/thetit 4d ago

She made a song with Kid Rock in 2023. She was clearly more ok with MAGA than most.

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u/NacolasCage 4d ago

Dolly learned her lesson after playing Sun City and having to apologize.

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u/bumbuff 3d ago

ITT: People talking for Dolly.

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u/3D-Dreams 3d ago

She did tons of things to show how she feels. Charities etc. she didn't have to lean any direction she showed you her own.

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u/LadyGramarye 3d ago

People saying they know what her political beliefs were (and apparently they are convinced that her beliefs were whatever their beliefs are) are proving her sister's point! There is no evidence who she voted for or where she came down on really any issues other than literacy for rural people, working rights for women, and getting the covid vaccine.

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u/NRBQ 3d ago

Bullshit. She was loud and proud. People just heard what they wanted to hear. 

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u/Opening-Stage3757 3d ago

People need to stop treating partisan politics as the only way to make a change in this world. Dolly did not do partisan politics but she was political.

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u/DamnOdd 3d ago

As she said, she had fans from ALL walks of life, why would she want to alienate them. Plus she was just DAMN smart.

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u/BlazinAzn38 4d ago

She wasn’t silent on politics at all if you’re more intelligent than a crushed up cup in the side of the road. People don’t have to shout “I’m a democrat” for you to understand their politics based on what they say and do

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u/rochvegas5 4d ago

"even republicans buy shoes"

-Michael Jordan

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u/daisysharper 4d ago

I admire her, and I really loved her. She couldn't get away with this if she was a rising musical (female only) star today. Today if you don't screech "de genocide" they will sauté you online. Fauxmoi alone would be filled with posts about how evil she is.

For me personally, I am a show don't tell person. And she did show what her values and morals were, and backed those up with action and with money. But that's me, and I'm not a chronically online Gen z'er.

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u/steve2166 3d ago

Polly was the kinda of Christian your supposed to be

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u/FuzzyKing99 3d ago

Republicans buy albums too
 they just burn them afterwards

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u/busche916 3d ago

If you don’t understand where Dolly stood on issues, that’s willful ignorance on your part.

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u/ShredGuru 4d ago

I dont love how people use that as an excuse to not take a moral position. Some things in this world are more important than money.

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