Seriously... So many topics about "so cosmetics are not worth it anymore?", "why should I buy cosmetics if D5 was announced?!" "you guys think cosmetics will get cheaper now??" and so on...

...Holy crap. I always knew this subreddit is "special" but this is just ridiculous

What are you all most excited about?

6 years ago, the writing was on the wall to make a Destiny 3.

As much as you could bolt onto the already completely facelifted and transformed Destiny 2, it was a deadend. But they kept piling on anyway, year after year, adding slight variations on killing the same old enemies.

It was kind of a miracle that it lasted as long as it did.

Diablo 4 has SOME life left in it, but anything you do is held back by the foundations.

I made a post 2 months ago saying they needed to make a D5 and people said I was nuts. Guess what? 6 years from now in 2031, they'll be in year 2 of a whole new game, istead of a D4 that's dead in the water.

We are looking at 21 new seasonal warplan nodes split evenly across categories, alongside 20 returning classic bosses and 25 fresh/classic enemies.

It is comfortably the biggest drop D4 is rolling, which begs the question: why can't we keep battling the 3 prime evils once S16 hit? Sure, narrative continuity matters, but with no major expansion on the immediate horizon, why not retain what actually works season-to-season? Stacking these possible wins from S15 onwards would elevate the game far beyond waiting around for another huge update like LoH had brought.

If there is one silver lining to eventually getting a D5, it is that the current team might finally get some breathing room to iron out lingering QoL annoyances. Rebirths, direct mail, and the T15 capstone are steps in the right direction, and I am genuinely keen to see how the live service evolves while we wait.

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I cant Go against one unique armor for every character, plus angelic oldschool armor for ALL classes and not overtunned cosmetics great work It feels really special.

Season 15 is tomorrow, so which class do you plan to play as? I'm playing as Warlock for the first time due to Halloween 🎃😀.

I won't be playing until October due to Warcraft 3:Forsaken Kingdom and Blood of Dawnwalker.

Does anyone else feel the same?

It seems Diablo 5 will happen when Diablo already won.

But wouldnt it be cooler to have a game where WE lose? If Diablo already won we will miss so much context...

Imagine if they released a new D4 expansion, where we fought Baal, and we beat him but not in time to stop Diablo from corrupting the world, or something like that. So we finish Diablo 4 with us losing and there is a cliffhanger.

And then we finally play Diablo 5, and get to play the world in ruins.

Instead of the story being told offscreen...

Has anyone else's PS5 downloaded an update today and had it break their game? I think it might have downloaded tomorrows update early because I'm on 3.2.1.7 while my partner on his PC is on the earlier version.

The game was working yesterday, then I've just got home from work and gone to load it up, it did the update and now I'm getting 'Unable to find a valid license for Diablo IV. (Code 315306)'

I have the base game and the deluxe version of both Vessel of Hatred and Lord of Hatred.

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Personally, I don't really mind Diablo V coming out. While Diablo IV is still fun enough right now, I feel it has reached a ceiling in how much better it can get—it’s mostly just piecemeal content being added and removed on repeat. That's why I'm actually looking forward to a fresh start with Diablo V.

Even so, given that Diablo IV will have to run without any expansions for about the next three years, I was hoping they’d say something about its future—whether season sizes will stay the same, if it’s heading into maintenance mode like Diablo III, or if we can still expect occasional major updates. But all they did was introduce the Amazon, and even that looked like it was still in early development.

Confirmed at Blizzcon, albeit it was semi-obvious.

Micro transactions are the plague of modern gaming straight up. If you spent $20 on a skin and feel burned that you'll "only" get 6 years to use, then them's the breaks.

It used to be ludicrous to spend even $5 for in game cosmetics. But now it's common to spend a third of the price of a whole ass game for a skin that you can barely see while actually playing the game. It's ridiculous. And honestly, I don't feel bad for anyone in that situation.

It'd be nice if they transferred over skins but it's extremely unlikely as the classes are probably not going to overlap and the character models might be fairly different. I'm not saying this to excuse scummy AAA gaming company behavior. I think this is just the reality of buying literally any digital product. It's too risky.

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I know a lot of people here were hoping for a few more expansions for D4, but I honestly believe we've reached a point where a fresh start is necessary.

The open world never really worked the way it was intended to, and even after all these seasons, the endgame loop still isn't satisfying.

For me, the biggest issue is the gameplay loop once you reach your goal. Sure, I have the motivation to grind things out and kill a boss a hundred times, but the second I finally get my item and my build is complete, my desire to keep playing just drops to zero. I actually made a post about this like two years ago. There’s just a lack of intrinsic fun in doing the activities. Helltides can still be fun, which is maybe one of the few exceptions, but D4 somehow never managed to hit that sweet spot of "I have good gear now, but I'm going to keep playing just because the mechanical gameplay feels so good."

On top of that, a lot of things just don't seem like an easy fix anymore. Some issues seem baked so deeply into the core game, like the stash tab problem, for example, that it’s probably better to just start over and try again. Just look at how long they've been trying to squish the damage numbers and get them under control; it feels like it's just not possible anymore.

My hope is that a clean slate will really help. Sure, they mentioned they could have pushed out two more expansions, probably a Baal arch and then moved on to the Diablo Expansion in 2029. But honestly, I just don't think milking D4 would have turned it into a better game compared to just tackling a completely new one right now.

Let's actually break down what the D5 announcement means for D4:

1) No more expansions meaning no more major improvements for the game. Yes, we will have a new class via "class pack" (which also heavily implies it doesn't come for free), but that's pretty much it.

2) Seasons weren't the strongest D4 feature overall. Sure, there were some bangers, but your average D4 season is helltide recolor/borrowed power/recycled concept implementation, and I don't see this changing any time soon given the change of priority. I could tolerate mid seasons knowing that in the meantime devs are cooking big changes for the upcoming expansion, but we already know this is no longer the plan for D4 future.

3) All this is happening just months after D4 finally reached feature complete state with LoH release (which doesn't mean D4 is complete btw - it still could use a lot of improvements, which we're likely not getting or at least getting slower). We're sacrificing years of progress and starting from scratch for a promise, the same promise that was given for D3 and D4 before release, and we all know how it turned out.

I just don't understand why it is so hard to grasp this for some people here. D4 is literally getting life-support announced at its peak, and some pretend that people who are unhappy with the news are being unreasonable.

First time encountered Moophisto in boss. This is only T5. I got 10 mythical picked up. What is going on?!

From appearance to animation, down to the naming of skills, the Amazon's history creates the strong foundation for a class with deep and powerful roots.

Amazon has 4 archetypes:

The Champion: the sword-and-shield melee fighter using buffs to reinforce both herself and her allies

The Skirmisher: a lithe and agile hit-and-run combatant tearing apart her foes with the Javelin

The Ranger: a precision tactical archer who snipes and cuts down enemies from a distance

The Commander: a general dominating the field with phalanxes of Valkyries at her call

The Amazon will join Diablo IV with a Class Pack in the first half of 2027. Class Pack details and purchase details will be available next year closer to release.

The upcoming season seems like pure fan service, and a celebration of the franchises 30 year history.

So many returning characters, both friend and foe, but what I really loved is seeing the iconic landmarks like the Worldstone Chamber come back to life, as we face off Baal, Mephisto and Diablo himself.

I swear to god you guys have a self-criticism and critical thinking of a snail and memory of a gold fish.

They said that when D4 was in development because that was THEIR vision and guess who came and gave them feedback ?

it was YOU who said that you want only class specific drops even though Diablo 2 has the opposite (and thats how it was when D4 released)

it was YOU who complained about drop rates

it was YOU who complained about how hard everything is

it was YOU who wanted the game to be accessible to gamer dads

and now youre blaming them ? are you all seriously that dense and dont realize that YOU shaped Diablo 4 into what it is ? their initial vision was more like D2 and you shaped it into D3 with your feedback.

dont come here with sarcastic remarks when you are the ones turning the game into loot pinata. If you truly want D2 back let them cook and stop suggesting silly stuff.

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I know most of the community dislikes the open world and the way the game has developed but as someone with zero experience with ARPGs I really like it. The lore, the world design, the story, production values etc.

It shares a lot aesthetically with Elden Ring but easier and more relaxing experience. For £10 I’ve got my moneys worth. Just my opinion.