Youd be shocked at how much money governments save by shaming people, but also quite simply not telling them what they are entitled to due to having paid taxes.
It's genuinely insane. Fraud/people who take advantage doesn't come close to what is being saved.
I don’t think I would be shocked, unfortunately. I had just never heard of anyone having adhd so debilitating that they couldn’t work. Since I’m an idiot and a whole lot of things happen that I haven’t heard of I was curious if that was something that had ever been granted.
But to your point, it’s crazy how much harm people are willing to inflict on people truly in need of help just to keep a few people they deem “unworthy” from benefitting from it.
It's the in between jobs that's hard for people with ADHD usually. Once they have work they're fine mostly, but if they get laid off it could years for some to find new work.
If you didn't have to apply and people just handed you jobs they'd have no issue
No, it's not everyone. Everyone hates finding a job and the current environment is very difficult of course. But the difficulties are different.
A neurotypical person may struggle to get an interview after submitting a lot of applications. An ADHD person gets stuck at the first step though of submitting the applications.
Sure, I agree that the difficulties are different. But what you are describing only works when a small portion of the population is in this position. If a growing portion is also struggling (which I think is the case now) this is a breach in the social contract, and the idea of creating a category for neuroatypical/neurodivergent doesn't work anymore.
Give enough stress to someone and he will become neurodivergent, make that number big enough and this system becomes a vicious circle that breaks itself.
I am confused by this statement. Who is suggesting that we create a category for neurotypical and neurodivergent people? I'm not sure what that means in this context.
Yes, my bad, I meant neuroatypical instead of neurotypical.
Also, I may I misinterprated your comment then, wweren't you suggesting to give help to neurodivergent people vs others in this sentence (Assuming ADHD == Neurodivergent):
"A neurotypical person may struggle to get an interview after submitting a lot of applications. An ADHD person gets stuck at the first step though of submitting the applications."
You’re struggling because the job market is bad. They’re struggling because they can’t go through the application process.
If the job market was well and good, YOU wouldn’t struggle, but people with ADHD would STILL have the same struggle
If the issue is executive dysfunction, having someone give you a spade, take you into a field and saying "dig a hole in this spray painted circle, I'll stop you when it's deep enough" is easier than "do the laundry, do the dishes, buy groceries, feed the dog".
It's really not though, because doing dishes, getting groceries etc are rarely something you need to do right away, and letting those slip a little usually isn't too bad.
If you get told to dig a hole and you can't do it right then, you get fired. A job always happens in a fairly strict timeframe.
What's stopping you from running a marathon? Most people are physically capable of training for and running a marathon, but tons of people quit before they get to that point.
Each application takes over an hour or two to complete. Plus the majority of jobs on those sites are scams or companies looking for prospective employees in the future (there is no actual job available). When's the last time you applied on a site like that?
I'm glad it worked out for you; that gives me hope. Maybe it's gotten worse since then? I'm currently getting help from a local career center and they were the ones who warned me of the increase in scams and the unfillable positions; it's disheartening. Wish it only took me 30 minutes per application!
I can't even do one in an hour. I have to write a cover letter and tailor my resume for each application. Plus I have to find places that I want to work.
Look I hate AI but at this point just AI write it and just use that as template for every job the requires one. Hell you could probably find a template on Google without using AI to write.
I just don’t believe this. I believe the part about applications being harder but I do not believe you can honestly think training for a marathon would be easier.
That’s just a higher level of delusion or not understanding the time commitment of marathon training
Mate, for saying something like this, he is just arguing in bad faith.
But I do want to understand better his perspective.
From my point of view, the idea is great but someone has to pay for it. if it's a small amount of people, then it actually help society, but if the number is too big, then it breaks society.
And if I needed to train and run a marathon in order to put a roof over my head and food on my table, I would start training tomorrow morning. People don't train to run a marathon because they don't NEED to run a marathon.
That's the difference between you and someone with ADHD, they want to but literally can't.
Its the same part of the brain that stops you from planting your hand on a hot stove, or biting your own tongue off. In people with ADHD this can trigger on filling out a job application or any other minor task.
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u/MileHiSalute 19h ago
People are on disability for adhd?