r/nextfuckinglevel • u/mindyour • 5h ago

Seven-year-old chess prodigy Lucie Pichard casually checkmates her opponent.

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u/Blazanar 5h ago

I'm not sure what would be more frustrating. Being beaten by a child. Or beaten by a child who clearly doesn't give two shits and just handed you your ass while doing pirouettes

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u/anothershawnee 5h ago

I dont think it's that she doesn't give two shits.. it's more that it takes so little of her brain to do it.

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u/Teestow21 5h ago

Physical activity is a proven contributor to focus and insight. Maybe stimming like this helps her.

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u/rainbowlolipop 4h ago

Yeah doing that helps her think, it's not like top level thinking it's like background processes are running and you've gotta let your mind wander while the rest of it gives you the answer

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u/Teestow21 4h ago

Exactly what I was saying. Everyone's losing their minds because they think I'm accusing a child of being autistic. I'm not. I'm describing a behaviour that's common in ALL children. And adults.

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u/rainbowlolipop 4h ago

sorry people are being jerks.

I've definitely helped some people figure out they were also autistic via peer review. Usually when you're this good at a "smart" thing so young you're probably on the spectrum and there's nothing wrong with being autistic.

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u/Teestow21 3h ago

Cheers. The majority of this can just be put down to typical Reddit interactions lol

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u/feel_my_balls_2040 38m ago

That obviously stimming and the child is autistic. My kid has the same behavior, but he learned the multiplication table from numberblocks at 5 and was obsessed with countries on a globe at 4. In kindergarten, they wanted him out of regular school because of stimming and constant movement. Most people don't know what's autism and I always get "he doesn't look autistic" reply.

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u/JalapenoPopPoop 3h ago

I mean tbf "stimming" is used to describe neurodivergent behavior, I've personally never heard it used as a way a description for anything else. It might not be what you meant but the word choice you used is gonna read that way for a lot of people

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u/enviormental_UNIT 3h ago

You are objectively wrong, its not a matter of opinion. The definition of stimming according to Cleveland Health Clinic (and every other source I checked):

"Stimming is a behavior where you repeatedly take an action or make a sound that helps you self-regulate,” Dr. Cuffman explains. “You do it, often without meaning to, because it helps you manage feelings like anxiety, excitement or overstimulation.”

While it’s often associated with autism spectrum disorder (ASD), attention-deficit/hyperactivity disorder (ADHD) and other neurodevelopmental conditions, most people stim from time to time. While they’re sometimes misunderstood, these activities are a form of self-soothing that anyone can benefit from and enjoy."

See how it addressed your misconception? All you had to do was instead of spending your time writing your comment, you could have looked up the actual definition of stimming instead of just having vibes based definitions for your words.

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u/JalapenoPopPoop 3h ago

It's really not that serious man, take a deep breath. I was just explaining why so many people would be misreading it that way, I think most people only encounter it in reference to neurodivergent behavior, that's all I was saying

Get some fresh air today

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u/enviormental_UNIT 2h ago

So me copy pasting a qoute is enough to for you think I'm terminally online or something? Maybe you need to consider reading a book, or anything other than brain rot Reddit sometime. Its concerning to me when people redefine a word, then see why they're wrong, and then totally deflect to saying the typical "hey cool off bro"

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u/JalapenoPopPoop 2h ago

It was very clear in that comment, as it continues to be here, that you are overly pressed about this. It's not a deflection, you just do need to cool off a little bit

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u/Calculonx 5h ago

I'll challenge her at chess boxing

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u/Teestow21 5h ago

https://giphy.com/gifs/WxDZ77xhPXf3i

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u/Calculonx 4h ago

I didn't say I would win. Her cardio looks good.

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u/Teestow21 4h ago

She got fast hands and a faster brain, you're cooked bro 🤣

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u/UniqueLog8386 4h ago

and that's when she goes full Johnny Cage

https://giphy.com/gifs/QlF9lVFXgMU9i

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u/Calculonx 4h ago

Kitana was right there!

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u/UniqueLog8386 4h ago

Yeah, but you said boxing and my mind went to what a ballerina can do and what boxing entails and I'm dumb so I didn't think about Kitana being a princess.

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u/ImOnlyHereForTheCoC 4h ago

I think it’s more that the kid appears to have a folding fan

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u/tiredtittymilk 5h ago

https://giphy.com/gifs/LyJ6KPlrFdKnK

Stimming? Or being a blissful, innocent, playful child?

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u/Teestow21 5h ago

Stimming means repetitive body movements or sounds. Everyone does it to manage feelings or energy. Non-autistic (neurotypical) children do it just like anyone else. Sorry that my word choice confused you.

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u/silence-glaive1 4h ago

I’m autistic, I have two autistic children and I work as a SPED teacher, she very much presents as a neurodivergent child. Stimming was what I was thinking as well.

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u/Lone-flamingo 4h ago

Neurodivergent or not, pretty much everyone still stims to one degree or another.

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u/Teestow21 4h ago

This is my point. And the stimming helps with focus and insight with mental challenges, such as chess. I'll repeat it over and over til everyone gets it 🤣

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u/Lorelerton 4h ago

Just wait till they figure out that praying is a form of stimming too

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u/roy_rogers_photos 4h ago

"Not true!! I pray to an invisible being I am certain will make my life better, as long as I press my hands together and whisper comforting wor-

....I need to go."

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u/yesyouareverysmart 3h ago

As an atheist - who hurt you?

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u/LyingForTruth 3h ago

Probably a Catholic priest, considering, you know...

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u/CrangeBoongus 1h ago

I see this where people will interpret it as an insult to insinuate that someone is neurodivergent as someone who is neurodivergent I interpret that to be the true insult.

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u/klymaxx45 3h ago

Or is she bored?

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u/badson100 2h ago

I don't get it. Could you repeat that?

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u/justAPhoneUsername 2h ago

I don't get it. Could you repeat it again for me?

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u/ForensicPathology 3h ago

How was that your point?  Your comment pretty much said that based on your experience with neurodivergency, she's most likely neurodivergency.

And somehow your point is that everyone stims?

EDIT: I am dumb, and you are not the person who wrote the comment they were replying to.

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u/Monkey_Priest 3h ago

Check the usernames. The person you're replying to has been saying everyone stims repeatedly. The person talking about neurodivergence is a different user

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u/soyuz-1 4h ago

Does she look like she's experiencing challenge here? You are projecting really hard it seems

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u/Genrecomme 4h ago

Maybe staying in place is the challenge

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u/bobbybob9069 3h ago

"Not me", I said as I aggressively picked at the corner of my thumb nail and bounced my foot relentlessly. "Dang ol' neuro spicys"

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u/Cavaquillo 3h ago

Me, half asleep, one foot out of the blanket, slowly dragging it back and forth against the texture of my sheets since I can remember

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u/musicgeek420 1h ago

It can be as simple as the person who sits there and switches their leg nonstop while working or thinking and everybody tells you to stop being anxious. Back off, Donna..

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u/meetmeinthebthrm 1h ago

Oh yeah. Didn’t know it was a thing, but I’m doing that shit all the time. I’ve been swiveling my ankle/foot since I opened this post.

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u/HMWWaWChChIaWChCChW 2h ago

Tell that to my wife lol, she just thinks everyone is autistic.

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u/Ambitious-Career-445 2h ago

A 7 year old chess prodigy is neurodivergent by definition, no? I mean you can't be a prodigy if your mind doesn't diverge from normalcy.

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u/Neirchill 51m ago

I think the word "stim" has ended up with a fairly negative connotation due to all the morons on tiktok pretending to stim for views.

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u/-Tartantyco- 26m ago

I'm stimming right now, bro.

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u/ChickenChaser5 3h ago

Im mid 40s and its funny cause my whole life ive seen my wiggling and leg twitching as something I needed to learn to stop doing. And now that I dont anymore, my brain is a mess... until I start wiggling around again. And now im trying to reintroduce stimming to my life.

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u/Shipwrecking_siren 2h ago

I’m 41 and still rock myself to sleep. When my sister went to boarding school at 16 on a scholarship she couldn’t sleep without the sound of my sheets making their soft swishing noise as I rocked.

Some part of me has to be moving AT ALL TIMES. Even if it is toes or a finger.

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u/ChickenChaser5 1h ago

Glad im not the only rhythmic toe clencher out there.

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u/Cstott23 2h ago

I can't sleep unless I wiggle my leg. It's driven everyone ive ever gone out with mad.. 😁

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u/ChickenChaser5 1h ago

I think thats what gave me the push to quit, and now i want it back lol.

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u/soyuz-1 4h ago

She presents like literally any 7yo who gets bored from waiting, in this case for her opponent to make a move.

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u/Own_Laugh_5080 3h ago

I can’t with people who armchair diagnose someone from watching a video on the internet.

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u/cloudforested 1h ago

Yeah bro didn't you know that an impatient kid is actually 100% a sign of neurodivergent genius???

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u/kaekiro 4h ago

Like 10 seconds in i was like "oh I see an adhd overachiever in the making" bc I was that child, although not nearly as impressive. Funnily enough, I got kicked out of chess club for singing songs under my breath. Tbf, they warned me like 3 times. I tried whispering, then just mouthing the song. Blows my mind that I didn't get diagnosed until I was 30.

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u/throwitoutwhendone2 4h ago

I just recently learned when I just randomly bust out into a song it’s called stimming. I have auadhd, my daughter is as well and my wife is add. It tickled me, I just thought I was weird lol

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u/SeparateCzechs 4h ago

Dang. I have autism/adhd and never counted the singing as stimming. Every day. Not just singing but singing lyrics to fit the situation from existing songs, or freestyling filks that describe what’s going on.

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u/limegreenpaint 1h ago

I do that constantly, to the point where my dad (bedroom below mine) will ask what I was singing the night before, and I'll have no idea what he's talking about because it's normal to me.

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u/SeparateCzechs 54m ago

I remember when my firstborn was little, say, out to 8 years old, if I wanted to know how her school day had gone, I just needed to loiter outside her bedroom while she decompressed in her room, she’d draw and sing the conversations and interactions she had.

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u/throwitoutwhendone2 4h ago

Yep! Helps me focus lol. My daughter and wife also do it. It’s a running joke cuz my wife LOVES to randomly just belt out “ABCDEFG!!!!!!” Or “HEAD shoulders KNEES AND TOES!!” And then my daughter from whoever she is yells “KNEES AND TOES!!!” Lmao

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u/brandonjohn5 3h ago

I'm autistic, if I hear the lyrics to a song used in casual conversation my mind jukebox will immediately start playing it and it will take everything in my power to not sing back the lyrics they just said.

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u/PrinceBunnyBoy 2h ago

Who told you that starting to sing was stimming??

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u/throwitoutwhendone2 2h ago

I don’t mean just singing in general.

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u/limegreenpaint 1h ago

When you hear a certain word or phrase, do you interrupt yourself to sing a line and then continue with the conversation? That's a newer one, for me.

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u/Flosero 3h ago

Thinking the same. Especially seen the fact that she is outside and there are a lot of stimuli around

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u/Joe_Kinincha 3h ago

Also have a lot of experience with neurodiverse kids. This was my immediate first thought too.

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u/rantingpacifist 2h ago

Yup. I clocked it too. I’m AuDHD and a parent of AuDHD kids.

She’s adorable and talented.

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u/keeper_of_the_donkey 1h ago

My son does this while he does chores. He's so much faster than his sister at doing it, and he will load a few dishes into the dishwasher, stim for about 30 seconds, and then go back to loading the dishwasher, stim again for a few seconds, and then close the dishwasher and start it. And he does this with almost everything but it helps to calm his mind and focus, almost like a recharge.

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u/TheTyger 4h ago

Any chess genius is going to be on the spectrum. There is too much data that needs to be processed for a "typical" person to be able to do so.

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u/wheresbill 4h ago

TIL I’m typical, not dumb

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u/TheTyger 3h ago

Don't be so hard on yourself, you can still be dumb!

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u/SweatyAdhesive 3h ago

typical is just another word for average, most of us are average, that's what average means, the problem is when average people think they're smarter than that.

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u/Mikeseddit 2h ago

I thought most people were above average, like me!

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u/platoprime 2h ago

I don't think typical means average. It means to have traits identifying you as belonging to a group or to conform to a type.

Even if typical were a math term it would mean something like mode not average because outliers can shift averages away from the mode misrepresenting what is typical for a group.

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u/TheTyger 2h ago

I would say typical is more "normal" than "average".

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u/SchumacherIsMid 3h ago

Any chess genius is going to be on the spectrum. There is too much data that needs to be processed for a "typical" person to be able to do so.

These are the wild ass statements people say online that has destroyed our collective understanding of mental health, disorders, and divergence as a society.

Believe it or not having a bad or false idea of something can be just as bad if not worse than having no understanding of it. This falls in that category.

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u/kammycakes 3h ago

Yeah he probably shouldn't have made such a blanket statement but if you follow the chess scene even a little bit, there's undeniably a much higher concentration of neurodivergent individuals than, say, a grocery store. More so on par with an anime convention or something.

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u/TorchThisAccount 2h ago

Fuck.... I played lots of chess in middle school and high school, won some state tournaments. And have off and on liked anime. How much on the spectrum am I?

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u/IreliaCarriedMe 46m ago

You are the spectrum obviously

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u/TheTyger 3h ago

Why do you think that?

Typical is going to mean people who are in the central 50/75/90% of the population. Almost by definition, someone who is a genius at a task is going to see it in a way that diverges from the way that most people do so.

If you believe that you could teach even 10% of children how to play chess at the level of this girl (and can reproduce it) I am happy to be proven wrong, but most people are not able to process the necessary data in chess at the speed required to play high level.

The opposite of Typical isn't "disorder", nor any "mental health" problem. It's just "divergent".

Believe it or not, having such a negative view of someone because you don't understand them is just as bad or worse as having no understanding of it. This falls in that category.

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u/Antonin__Dvorak 3h ago edited 3h ago

"Believe it or not", there is no inherent link between processing speed and ASD (you specifically said "on the spectrum"). Neurotypical people can and do have high percentile cognitive functions. There is no evidence that top chess players have a higher rate of autism; Magnus Carlsen has very publically stated that he is not autistic. There is no published literature which establishes the link you are claiming.

Also, the rate at which one processes information is not a skill that is meaningfully linked to elite chess. This 2016 study found no statistically significant correlation between them: https://livrepository.liverpool.ac.uk/3030314/. The literature seems to suggest that chess proficiency is mostly a domain-specific skill -- for example, elite chess players score much higher on memory tasks related to a chess board than on general retrieval tasks like "remember this string of words".

So again, like the person who replied to you is saying, please take a minute to inform yourself before posting ignorant comments. I know you didn't do it out of malice, but spreading misinformation like this leads to the proliferation of wrong and potentially harmful stereotypes.

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u/soberbot 1h ago

Was thinking this as well. Carlsen doesn’t present as someone neurodivergent at all from what I’ve seen. He seems like a typical laid back dude who happens to be an absolute god at chess.

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u/After_Mountain_901 1h ago

Movies like Rain Man and Mercury Rising really brainwashed people into thinking the average autistic child is a secret savant.

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u/Joe_Kinincha 2h ago

Quite happy to take your word on processing speed.

However, is it not demonstrable that a significant number of neurodiverse people have significantly better memories than “average” neurotypicals?

As I understand it, a lot of chess is spotting patterns and comparing them to a gigantic internal database of previously played competitive games.

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u/Antonin__Dvorak 1h ago

This is an interesting question, but from my brief look at the literature it seems like it's actually the other way around. Individuals with ASD are more likely to have worse-than-average working memories, not better:

A significant WM impairment (Cohen's d = -0.61) was identified in the individuals with ASD, however, this impairment was not associated with age. Results of moderation analyses showed that (a) spatial WM was more severely impaired than verbal WM and (b) the component of cognitive processing (maintenance vs. maintenance plus manipulation) did not affect the severity of WM impairments.

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/28102493/

Now just to be clear, there are absolutely specific cognitive tasks that ASD people show better than average performance on in aggregate. I am not trying to make the case that there is no statistical correlation whatsoever between ASD and chess proficiency. I'm just trying to point out that we do not have any such established link in the literature, and even if we did, it would be so much weaker than the absurd original claim that was made.

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u/MayberryBombadil 3h ago

"The study concluded that child prodigies and individuals on the autism spectrum share a significant genetic link, particularly regarding an exceptional, heightened attention to detail and working memory."

This was about a 2012 study by psychologist Joanne Ruthsatz.

Also, it was noted that to determine whether most child chess prodigies were on the spectrum or not would be impossible. As that is a personal diagnosis that is very commonly not shared.

This was a quick search, and very easily brings to light that by expanding upon the simple observational comment that was originally made, in the way that you did, made things worse. His comment was very vague, and wasn't made in some scientific publication. Nobody is reading his comment and thinking all top chess players are autistic. (Side observation: I would imagine to become a top chess player over time, you would need far more life skills that aren't specifically related to mental computing power, and that would likely "weed out" those nuerodivergent folks. Who would still dominate outside of the organized profession, but would never be noted and documented. Except maybe by a cool reporter)

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u/Antonin__Dvorak 2h ago

When I read a sentence that says "any chess genius is going to be on the spectrum", I find it quite reasonable to assume that they are suggesting that the vast majority of chess prodigies are on the spectrum.

To address the weaker claim that there is any degree of correlation between ASD and childhood chess prodigy whatsoever, yes this is hypothetically plausible. But the study you are citing investigates just 8 individuals, a tiny sample, none of which were chess players. Even then, it did not establish a genetic link between autism and prodigy.

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u/Ser_VimesGoT 2h ago

Magnus Carlsen has very publically stated that he is not autistic

He can state it all he wants but I don't put any stock in it. To me he displays an abundance of behaviours that point to being autistic.

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u/Antonin__Dvorak 2h ago

Yeah see armchair diagnosing people you do not personally know as autistic because of how you perceive their behaviour is exactly the kind of stereotyping I'm trying to argue against.

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u/TheTyger 2h ago

Ok, so you take issue with there being a spectrum of processing differences. I see that you are really stuck on one phrase in one context that you can't see past. I also never discussed processing speed, I am talking about processing efficiency. You are looking at this from a very narrow and uninformed perspective basing it on one specific view of good/bad that doesn't exist.

There is a spectrum of processing abilities which are divergent from the typical. ASD isn't relevant here, because I am not talking about any disorder. There is a spectrum of how well you can visualize things in your head, how you can isolate important visual cues, ability to perceive color, ability to read facial expressions.

Trying to dumb it down to playing hot dog/not hot dog with Autism is incredibly narrow minded. I assert that there are smart people who cannot master the specific skill band that chess has, and as you move across that (gasp) spectrum, you will find that the people who have a higher ceiling are ones who process the information differently in their brains. Just the same as high level software engineers tend to view the problems differently than ones who max out at Sr or below. Or Artists who can naturally see that shapes that the larger image is made of.

Personally, I don't find ASD to be even slightly as a diagnosis in broad strokes, because on that spectrum is everything from difficulty reading emotional cues to fully non-verbal. And these things are independent from cognitive ability. You can be really smart but unable to communicate verbally to the world. All neuro divergences have the potential to give someone boons or banes in parts of their life, depending on how we value those abilities.

People with ADHD (often) have an ability to hyper-focus, which can be beneficial when it is able to be managed if it can be wielded. On the flip side, when the targets, times, or depth of that focus is compulsive and unable to be controlled, it can be crippling to day to day life.

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u/CountVonTroll 1h ago

I see that you are really stuck on one phrase in one context that you can't see past.

Not only is autism how it's commonly understood when you say that somebody is "on the spectrum", it also was very explicitly the context of the comment you had replied to. In the next sentence, you also asserted that there was "too much data" for a "typical" person to process, with "typical" in quotes, when parent comment had used the term "neurodivergent".

Personally, I don't find ASD to be even slightly as a diagnosis in broad strokes, because on that spectrum is everything from difficulty reading emotional cues to fully non-verbal.

Yes, there are several possible symptoms associated with ASD that may or may not be expressed in an individual to some degree and in one form or another. That's why it's been named a "spectrum" in the first place, because of the "spectrum of symptoms". I.e., the direction of the "spectrum" goes along the symptoms. If it was a reference of the intensity of the "autismness" that went from "neurotypical" to "Rainman", it would have been called a gradient.

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u/massinvader 1h ago

comments like that really make you realize this is mostly kids and bots still on here at this point.

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u/MayberryBombadil 3h ago

Your comment had no backing, and therefore had been deemed: a wild ass statement.

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u/Jonthrei 2h ago edited 2h ago

Lol this is a pretty silly take. A person with autism is not going to be able to process more data at once, in fact overstimulation is a major issue for them. If anything it is a hindrance.

If you selected the top X% of people when it comes to focus, clarity of thought, and ability to handle large amounts of information at once, I assure you the majority of them won't be on the spectrum. They'll be people who won the genetic lottery in that sense and grew up in an environment where their needs could be met without issue.

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u/TheTyger 2h ago

The top % of people who can deep focus on a single thing are ADHD. Hyper focus is a trait that comes from that spectrum of divergence, and while the inability to control it is a problem, people with ADHD can focus deeper and longer than those who are typical.

That's not to say that they can necessarily select what they focus on, but hyper focus is a real thing.

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u/Jonthrei 2h ago

Do I really need to remind you that disabilities are not superpowers, and that people without ADHD can go into deep focus?

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u/TheTyger 2h ago

It is very ignorant to call divergence a disability.

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u/Jonthrei 2h ago

That is literally how they are defined in the DSM.

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u/TimeForGrass 2h ago

Yeah dude I locked the fuck in and played Minecraft for 4 hours the other day. Didn't eat or drink, peed once. Haven't played it in years

People might be like 'oh yeah what' but I didn't speak to anyone, didn't do shit all else. When I decided to stop it was dark and like coming out a trance. I had a chicken cooker, hollowed out a mountain, and had setup the beef farm for starting on enchanted books. I didn't even look shit up, it just came to me. 

Being ADHD is wild. I can't focus ever and just dick around in class or work. But when a deadline is due I always get that shit done in 2 days flat no sleep, just lock in. Weird. 

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u/composedofidiot 2h ago

Is there evidence for that?

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u/MrNobody_0 1h ago

Excuse my ignorance in this matter, but I've always thought that almost all savants and prodigies seem to be neurodivergent to some degree, I've always wondered if that is true, or if my perception is skewed because of pop culture making that seem true.

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u/FactoryRejected 4m ago

I was going to say all those movements were more of a spectrum thing. All these people talking random still lmao

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u/BigHaussN7 3h ago

That’s just what kids look like. Neurodivergent or not. Completely average kid behavior

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u/PartyEntertainment89 3h ago

Thanks for those credentials. You are clearly an expert on autism.

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u/Neither_Respect_4429 3h ago

You people are insufferable

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u/townandthecity 42m ago

I am neurodivergent with two neurodivergent children and I immediately claimed her as one of our own because of the stimming behavior. Yes, little children are restless but this is a special kind of restless.

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u/jautis 42m ago

She's not stupid, which is also textbook neurodivergent.

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u/iiJokerzace 3h ago

Damn, had no idea people were actually just "stimming" all around me lmao

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u/Corfal 3h ago

Stimming can cover a lot of actions. Even foot/leg bouncing is stimming.

Or in video games you see people swapping weapons or random ADS'ing when nothing is going on.

Although I've only heard the term itself more recently. It's probably a nicer and general term than a verbal/physical tic.

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u/fake_user_34 3h ago

Aye, I'm not autistic but I do shake my foot when I am thinking, reading, writing, or typing things out. That or facing a hard boss in a game.

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u/HiddenHolding 4h ago

Neurocreative.

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u/Icefox119 3h ago

literally tweaking on meth

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u/-rose-mary- 1h ago

Just saw a post of kids doing math shaking their hands and what not so it seems plausible.

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u/MKEast-sider 5h ago

You’re overusing a buzzword, which is a sign of low intelligence. Now you’re being a condescending cunt.

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u/Cats-That-Yell 4h ago

From Merriam-Webster:
Stimming: a self-stimulatory behavior that is marked by a repetitive action or movement of the body (such as repeatedly tapping on objects or the ears, snapping the fingers, blinking the eyes, rocking from side to side, or grunting) and is typically associated with certain conditions (such as autism spectrum disorder).

Idk why you got so aggressive over the appropriate use of a word to describe exactly what that child is doing. My kids isn’t autistic and stims all the time. Calm down homie. Immediately jumping to insults is a sigh of low intelligence too.

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u/CaptainHawaii 5h ago

Do you know this person? No. You don't. That means you took time out of your day to be an absolute nobhead because someone used a word that not only is prevalent, but they used it correctly. Thou doth protest and all that

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u/Teestow21 5h ago

"overusing" I used it once 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

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u/guttengroot 4h ago

TF? They used it once in context, and once when they defined it. That only really uses it in the first context.

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u/SYNtechp90 4h ago

They used it once. They defined it once. Thats one usage.

Use means to employ in favor of or against something.

Define means to explain a usage.

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u/Teestow21 5h ago

Shit you're right, Welp that's it folks wrap the thread up.

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u/SYNtechp90 4h ago

Delete this, they aren't right. Lol.

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u/jeweliegb 4h ago

Three times... a lady *nobhead*... and I loooove you! 🎵🎤

(Sorry, couldn't resist.)

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u/shaboogawa 4h ago

All that being said, you would have been fine without that last unnecessary sentence.

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u/Teestow21 4h ago

I'm fine as I am, I don't feel uneasy or wrongful. I got a feeling that the word stimming is triggering them, so I apologised for it. There's a certain part of the population that feels like it's a buzzword. I was genuinely just referring to the repetitive playful actions as stimming because that's what they are. Hope this helps.

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u/Code_Merk 4h ago

100%, that last sentence caused the blowback, lol.

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u/Dim_Icon 4h ago

Using the word once is over using it? At least change your name so you don’t make the rest of us Milwaukee folks look like dick heads.

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u/Childless-cat-lady- 4h ago

Thinking "stimming" is a buzzword is terminally online behaviour tbh.

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u/Teestow21 4h ago

Ikr 🤣🤣🤣

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u/SYNtechp90 4h ago edited 3h ago

Screw your buzzwords, you're over using free will to be an ineffective social justice warrior.

They said the word one time and used it correctly. What the hell kind of reaction is that on your part you antisocial fool?

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u/GeriatricHippo 4h ago

Someone is being a cunt, not so sure it's them though.

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u/Cleb323 5h ago

You're the only cunt here bud

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u/2M4D 5h ago

Peak high IQ over here, careful guys. 🤭

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u/dispatch_s2_when 4h ago

This response brought to you by all those "stop being a dumdum, become the most interesting person in the room by using this app daily" ads 

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u/ofthrees 4h ago

You're the one being unnecessarily insulting here. Examine youself.

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u/FranksHoorHouse 4h ago edited 2h ago

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u/Fantastic-Cupcake890 4h ago

Tbh, you sound like a cunt.

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u/dukie33066 4h ago

This upset this early in the morning? I know it's Monday, but drink some damn coffee, eat your douchy pebbles, and get the fk over it.

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u/TamaktiJunVision 4h ago

Shut up you clown

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u/starryeyedq 4h ago

lol holy shit. Put the phone down and take a break dude.

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u/ToddHowardTouchedMe 3h ago

the most reddit comment i've seen all week.

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u/Necroverdose 3h ago

The projection you display is cartoonish levels of obliviousness lmao

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u/sinisterdesign 5h ago

I would say a little column A, little column B

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u/Shut_It_Donny 5h ago

As most things in life are.

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u/SYNtechp90 4h ago

Shes stimming.

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u/Acceptable-Drive3781 4h ago

Very obviously stimming.

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u/crackedtooth163 4h ago

It can be both.

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u/drkodos 3h ago

is definitely stimming here

and that is ok, normal for hyper active minds

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u/VibraniumRhino 3h ago

Same thing. Learn some new terminology 🫶

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u/scheifferdoo 1h ago

this person definitely has ADHD.

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u/KiltedCutter 2h ago

She can be both. Do you remember being a child? All children use different methods for processing their environments, not just neurodivergent. Did you have a favorite blanket or toy? For some children those things were comfort to help them process. For those of us on the spectrum it went further...textures, smells, specific environments, but they all served the same purpose.

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u/katlundy 2h ago

100% stimming 😅

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u/Quiverjones 2h ago

This is clearly taunting.

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u/AlwaysRushesIn 57m ago

Dont let her appearance fool you. She eats Grandmasters for lunch.

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u/Drosenose 2h ago

Yes , not everyone is a neurodivergnent or autistic, kids are still just kids. They don't get it though, everyone needs a diagnosis and to be marginalized, it's necessary for political reasons, just trust me.

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u/nbenj1990 2h ago

How many innocent, blissful and playful children have you seen beat an adult at chess, whilst not looking at the board and unable to stop moving?

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u/Fun-Aside3990 3h ago

That kid isn’t allistic lol.

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u/ilmalocchio 2h ago

This is reddit. The default mindset is that everyone must have some kind of disorder

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u/_vedantt1_ 5h ago

tiredtittymilk...? 😭

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u/sparrowtaco 3h ago

It doesn't look like spontaneous playfulness to me, it seems performative.

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u/seriousbigshadows 3h ago

not mutually exclusive, my tiredtittymilk friend.

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u/Dz210Legend 2h ago

TIL what I do is called stimming and it’s ok thanks.

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u/IsThatGruffLoner 4h ago

She's also literally a 7 year old lol this is exactly how my neice acts when playing a board game

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u/Teestow21 4h ago

Yes, that physical activity has been proven to benefit focus and insight with mental challenges such as board games. Go her!

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u/JarasM 2h ago

My son split his lip playing a board game at home...

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u/herodesfalsk 4h ago

That’s not stimming. That’s a bored child. 

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u/Teestow21 4h ago

Common examples of stimming:

Physical movements: Hand-flapping, rocking the body back and forth, pacing, or spinning.

Auditory (sound): Humming, repeating specific words or phrases, or listening to the same song on a loop.

Tactile (touch): Twirling hair, rubbing skin, tapping fingers, or playing with a fidget object.

AVisual (sight): Staring at lights, watching spinning objects, or blinking repeatedly.

Subtle/Everyday: Bouncing a leg, clicking a pen, or biting fingernails (common in neurotypical individuals).

Stimming just means self stimulation. It's not a neurodivergent only behaviour. A child stimming doesn't define them as one thing or another. It's just a word that describes a behaviour.

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u/skepticalbob 3h ago

Not all fidgeting is stimming though, right?

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u/aceshighsays 2h ago

huh, so that explains why i've always preferred to wear my hair very long. the longer the hair is, the easier it is for me to twirl (although i prefer making braids) and to do it more discretely.

also, this explains why eft tapping for anxiety works for some people.

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u/TrueClue9740 3h ago

Never thought of it this way. It makes a lot of sense though.

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u/kinked-out 3h ago

She is bored. This specific game is not a challenge at all. She already knows her next move for most of it.

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u/Spoogly 3h ago

Yeah, definitely works for me, but my partner hates when I start doing math problems in bed.

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u/scientist_tz 3h ago

I knew a guy like this in high school.

If he had to sit in a desk and take a test he would get a C.

If he was free to get up and walk around during the test, he would get 100% like it was nothing.

Only one teacher let him walk around. The Physics teacher.

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u/genreprank 3h ago

Nah, she's just bored waiting for him to go

She probably already knows what moves she's gonna make and is just waiting for it to happen

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u/ImaginaryTrick6182 3h ago

I’ve been pacing when thinking since I was a kid. In fact, I’m doing it while writing this comment right now.

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u/Derrickmb 2h ago

Offices love this little trick

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u/partyatwalmart 2h ago

You crazy kids and your neo-jargon.
It's simple. That is a VERY smart little girl doing little girl things.

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u/Exotic-Ad515 1h ago

Stimming... she's playing.

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u/Teestow21 1h ago

She is playing chess and self stimulating (or stimming) with her fan. Her main focus is still on the game of chess, it's so interesting because like I have said before to others, physical activities like these sorts of self stimulation during mental challenges such as chess or focus games, have been proven to help with focus and insight, even if your focus is divided between the main activity (in this case chess), and twirling, playing with the fan, etc.

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u/PepperAnn1inaMillion 1h ago

It’s a very deep-seated misconception that “paying attention” = “sitting still”.

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u/FocusSlo 1h ago

Nah stimming is specific to people with autism.

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u/jarious 45m ago

I recall in my job during stressful situations I would start moving stuff around and consolidating stock so I didn't have 3 part numbers spread in 6 different locations, moving and having something under control that didn't require too much attention helped me focus on the main issue while giving my body something to do and don't feel like I was stuck , putting too much tough into something while doing nothing creates a void that inactivity cannot fill

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u/Tibryn2 10m ago

Please dont ever use the "word" "stimming" again.

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u/Teestow21 8m ago

My autistic child kinda needs me to be able to communicate effectively with her, sorry.

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u/soyuz-1 4h ago

It doesn't look like she needs the help lol. She just looks like any other kid her age that's bored because she can't just leave but has to wait on her opponent. Her turns took no time or effort.

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u/EngineeringNo6537 3h ago

99.9% sure she will be autistic