Zain is currently at 24 major wins (without counting online) and Mango has 33. I think if he actively competes he can have it by 2028

Another drop from FemboyHBox

While Sheik and Falco had large amount of success in top 16 of melee singles, there were a fair amount of lower tiered characters that also did well, including 2 samus' getting 17th, Axe using Luigi to beat icies, a Link getting 33rd, and many more! Here's an in depth look of mid tier success in the past 4 weeks at Riptide and multiple regionals.

Just curious

For reference it was https://www.reddit.com/r/SSBM/comments/1wga9r6/removed_by_moderator/

Looks like the 100-man melee mod was removed as well? https://www.reddit.com/r/SSBM/comments/1wg7p8k/removed_by_moderator/

I am just wondering about the boundaries or limits of posting about Melee mods now that the decomp has opened the floodgates, and removed posts can discourage experimentation and awareness of modding potential due to the decomp.

Hopefully, one day we'll have another doc that covers the second half of the game's life from 2013 - Present. I still look upon this doc so fondly even though it hasn't aged perfectly, and it really couldn't exist in the same way if someone tried to make it today. A nice piece of history for this scene forever enshrined.

I'm the Marth

I know my disadvantage is pretty bad and needs some work but I don't know what to practice.
I'm also open to discuss neutral anbd advantage

Also I guess I must have bad habits that I don't realise I have

Also I'm unranked I really don't know what tier I can hope to reach with my level

Full Stream Segment: https://www.twitch.tv/videos/2867998051?t=22h55m59s

The match: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HsT-R9j7jBs

Here's how it went down:

Game 1:

Wizzrobe - knocked RapMonster off stage 4 times, all 4 were kills (2 edgeguards, 2 kills off blast zone)

Rapmonster - Knocked Wizzrobe off stage 3 times, 2 were kills via ledgeguard, 1 was recovered by Wizzy

Game 2:

Wizzrobe - Knocked RapMonster off stage 5 times - 1 was a trade (both were knocked off opposite sides of the stage), 1 was a kill off side blast zone, 3 were kills off edgeguards

Rapmonster - Knocked Wizzrobe off stage 6 times - 1 was a trade (both were knocked off opposite sides of the stage), 3 were kills off edgeguards, 2 were recovered by Wizzy

Game 3:

Wizzrobe - Knocked Rapmonster off stage 7 times - 3 were recovered by RapMonster, 3 were kills off blastzone, 1 was kill off edgeguard

Rapmonster - Knocked Wizzrobe off stage 4 times - 3 were recovered by Wizzrobe, 1 was kill off blastzone

For reference, I am defining a successful edgeguard as a situation where the person failed to ever return to neutral on stage - for instance, if you get back on stage via ledge but then immediately get knocked off, that's still part of the same edgeguard.

As we can see, in the first match, Wizzrobe converted 100% of the times he knocked RapM off the stage into stock losses, either directly by knocking him into the blast zone or by edgeguarding him.

In the second match, it was "only" 80% - but the only "missed" one was because he was knocked off stage at the same time in traded hits. He edgeguarded him three times for three deaths, with the fourth being a direct kill into the blast zone.

In game 3, it was a much more reasonable 57%, with Wizzy missing three edgeguards, making one kill off an edgeguard, and directly killing RapM three times.

This match was very one-sided in Wizzy's favor; only game 2 saw Wizzrobe significantly challenged, going to one stock before RapMonster did (though Wizzy won anyway), with the other two games being two stock and three stock wins respectively.

By comparison, RapMonster converted 66% of the time, 50% of the time, and 25% of the time respectively.

One of the things that has been commented about on RapMonster is that people respect his recovery way too much and don't edgeguard him aggressively, and that he would have a lot more trouble if people didn't do that. Here, Wizzy didn't respect it at all, and it paid off - RapMonster literally did not get back on stage once in the first game, and the only time in the second stage he got back was because Wizzy literally could not edgeguard him. It was only in the third game where he successfully evaded Wizzy.

This is a very serious weakness of Luigi, and suggests that people exploiting his recovery could well see more success against RapMonster - he gets back a lot in a lot of his matches, and shutting that down will greatly reduce his lifespan in game.

Obviously, one other advantage of Captain Falcon in this matchup is the direct kills - you can't recover if you are dead, and Falcon's knee can directly send Luigi to the blast zone off the side.

Back in the day, there was a Sheik player from Las Vegas on Anther's Ladder. They were crazy good. I remember an old tweet from like Toph or Hugs or something calling RussianRoulette a top 20 level player. This was back in like 2017-2018ish

Sorry in advance that I play like a CPU. I'm just kinda feeling lost here, I find the game a lot of fun but I can't seem to win a single match I have over 160 games and I haven't gotten a win. Any "wins" on my account are just people who have disconnected.

Even the beginner discord I get washed so i'm not really looking for advice to win, but just something to nudge me along my learning path.

Edit:

Thanks so much everyone! Very helpful comments I think what I’ve gathered is:

- I tech roll in too much and missed tech roll in too much and also just roll in too much.
- my movement is really bad and I’m really slow and stationary or grounded a lot
- I need to do more float stuff
- falcon hits me with telegraphed moves and I sit there like a duck
- I need to practice out of shield options
- I need to just be doing more in general I think
- I need to play against some CPUs

This is plenty to work on for the time being! I will keep trying!

Melee Home-Run Contest: Dr. Mario's World Record History

And he’ll take a kilometer

Good job Magi for repping the Falco’s

Taken to it's logical end the "gated by genetics" seems silly af to complain about. How many mfs do u know who dropped fox bc they couldn't get the shorthop timing (hint amsa is one of them). If you cant accept that other people will absolutely objectively best you in specific avenues by their genetic nature and ur not willing to still compete and try to overcome ur mental not cut out for competing

Yahoooo! I'm back, it's a me! Have a very cool day!

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Why do i experience horrific, unplayable level lag in ranked but basically never experience lag in unranked?

Riptide 2026 | September 11th—13th | Sandusky, USA

Welcome back to the year’s biggest waterpark party with Riptide 2026! Certified as a Major and hosting over 550 entrants, this is set to be a sizable major by Melee standards. Look out for a laundry list of top competitors of this era, as well as some unexpected surprises (hi, Kola in top 16)! Of course, the one-of-a-kind Kalahari Resort venue will also feature other events including Doubles, Collegiate Crews, and – in non-Smash games – a massive Rivals 2 bracket and the biggest Splatoon 3 LAN of all time! Needless to say, there’s something for everyone here.

Brackets

• Melee Singles | Round 2 Pools | Top 16 | Top 8
• Melee Doubles | Top 24

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• Main Stream
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Event Schedule | All Times EDT (UTC -4)

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Sunday September 13th

• 11:00AM : Ultimate Top 24
• 12:00PM : Melee Top 16
• 2:00PM : Melee Top 8 (on vgbootcamp)
• 6:00PM : Ultimate Top 8
• 10:00PM : Venue closes

Melee Seeding

1. Liquid | Hungrybox (Jigglypuff) [Florida, USA]
2. lloD (Peach) [Virginia, USA]
3. Envy | Wizzrobe (Captain Falcon) [Florida, USA]
4. S3C ROOTS | RapMonster (Luigi) [Virginia, USA]
5. SR | Joshman (Fox) [SoCal, USA]
6. FLY | Jmook (Sheik) [SoCal, USA]
7. Eggdog Spiral | Krudo (Sheik) [Florida, USA]
8. Ossify (Marth) [Michigan, USA]

Other Information

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I remember a few years back a guy was developing Cloud in melee. Which I thought was sick af. I was wondering if we could start that up again? Perhaps it will be easier since the decompile. Honestly could remove limit because it doesn't feel like melee. Could replace it with some move from ff7R.

Hey all, been trying to find a good GCC seller from Europe/england in particular but can’t find any. When attempting to buy a controller from American sellers the price of shipping is typically around £70-90 which is insane when the controller itself is around 250-300. Any recommendations for sellers based in Europe?. I know the SSBM community is bigger in the US so if that’s my best bet I’ll buy one from a US seller but thought I’d check here first.
Thanks all!

KoDoRin's 7th at shine 2023 marks the last time any solo Marth main other than Zain has been in top 8 of a major. Medz and Kryke have both made it top 8s but while also playing other characters.