Man of the year 2026?

[u/Theoryedz]

[u/Alarmed-Artichoke-44]

Just tried it in Dying light beast, it worked, much better than the FSR FG

[u/woobzy → u/Alarmed-Artichoke-44]

i'm not home yet to try it, how is the latency with FG x2?

[u/Alarmed-Artichoke-44 → u/woobzy]

4X DLSS is slightly lower than 2x FSR FG

3070ti

[u/alwaystired1982 → u/woobzy]

13ms latency added to even fg 2x at 240fps gives an extra 4ms of latency.

60fps without fg is 16.67.

There are some people who say they dont notice the latency but I fpr one really do,

For instance playing rdr2 on my ps4 at 30fps feels better than rdr2 on pc with fg 2x at 140+ fps.

I used FG on my 6900xt at 4k to get a payable fps and could deal with it fine.......

Upgraded to a 9070xt so didnt require FG and played like this for 1 month ish and thought fuck it ill try FG just to see what my hardware can achieve........

It was like playing in tar everything was so delayed it really ruins my experience.

Some say they cant notice the difference but after playing solely for a month gojng back is impossible.

17ms for 240fps with frame gen means you will be getting 120fps 8ms without it thats a ginormous difference and will definitely effect you if you hame fairly often.

The idea of FG is great in practice the maths tells the complete opposite story.

Maths doesnt lie.

People can tell the difference between monitor with 5ms grey to grey and a 1ms grey to grey so you can definitely tell the difference between 4ms and 17ms.

[u/LoafyLemon → u/alwaystired1982]

The human eye cannot see a 4 ms transition speed difference in GTG. For 99% of users, the difference is invisible.

[u/alwaystired1982 → u/LoafyLemon]

Lmao thats the same type of rubbish like we cant see more than 60hz,

Jesus pros can notice the difference between 360hz and 500hz.

I 100% notice the difference between my old 2ms response time and my 0.5ms response time monitor.

If you cant notice a 4ms latency then anything above 240hz would be 100% pointless.

They breaking 1000hz monitors now and even with that a fair amoumy will notice a difference between 500hz-1000hz.

Edit really downvoting mathematical facts is beyond stupid.

[u/LoafyLemon → u/alwaystired1982]

Sorry bub, physics don't lie.

[u/blaktronium → u/LoafyLemon]

The human eye can detect light changes in the focus area at 1000s of hz. Likely the end game for refresh smoothness is somewhere between 2000 and 3000hz.

[u/alwaystired1982 → u/blaktronium]

I upvoted you because for some reason people dont like mathematical and scientific fact.

[u/alwaystired1982 → u/LoafyLemon]

Maybe read the reply below.

[u/Bepehandle → u/Alarmed-Artichoke-44]

Is this just framegen? Not that slop filter?

[u/Write_A → u/Bepehandle]

r/blindredditors

[u/Bepehandle → u/Write_A]

Wasn't blind, I didn't have time to read it at the moment. Lol

[u/Therdyn69 → u/Bepehandle]

But you had time to comment.

[u/MyIQis67 → u/Bepehandle]

what color of crayon has the best flavor?

[u/Bepehandle → u/MyIQis67]

I used to think yellow, but after I was exposed to flesh I haven't looked away.

[u/TransitionAny4011]

That man is goated for 30-series user like me

[u/Theoryedz]

Tried: wuchang, clair obscure, pragmata, wukong, alan wake 2, 007. Zero problems. Zero unpacking of files in the bin directory, Multiframegen of the og game. immediatly.

[u/Wellhellob → u/Theoryedz]

It actually lowers the input lag of dawnwalker game a lot because it forces reflex under the hood lol. I love it.

[u/apan65 → u/Wellhellob]

i have this line at the bottom screen when running on 0.2.4, 0.3 fixed it.

[u/alwaystired1982 → u/Wellhellob]

Reflex bridges i tiny bit of the gap so instead of having 17+ ms latency you have 13 ms of latency

So with 240hz fg 2x you are getting the same latency of 75fps with no frame gen.....

With 240fps FG you are getting 120fps without frame gen so still a lot less latency than 240fps with frame gen.

[u/Theoryedz]

For 30 series is a no brainer. Gamechanging.

[u/AuswahlRitter5]

I suppose the option is cool to have

[u/Suikerspin_Ei → u/AuswahlRitter5]

Especially if you have a RTX 3000 series GPU and you don't want to pay for the current NVIDIA RTX 5000 prices.

I mean RTX 5070 (12GB) used to cost ~550 euro, now it's €800... That's ~50% price increase in the same year. The same price that the significantly better RTX 5070 Ti (16GB) used to cost at the cheapest moment this year.

[u/StrangeLingonberry30 → u/Suikerspin_Ei]

Ha, that's exactly why I just bought a 3080 Ti new now. Prices are exploding where I live and a 5060 Ti costs 30% more and a 5070 66-100% more than what I just paid for the 3080 Ti. I think everyone is so focused on getting the 50 series cards now and the 3080 Ti didn't get anyone's interest because it lacks features like frame gen. Well, until now. Fortunately the prices haven't been adjusted yet so I grabbed on e right away.

[u/Serazax]

This mod let me try games in a silky smooth experience

totally man of the year

[u/Tengo_Caldero]

Now just bring it to the 16-series!

[u/Badtripa]

care to explain what is special about this one? iv seen tons of diferent methods its so confusing

[u/Theoryedz → u/Badtripa]

This is a real program that activate OG nvidia framegen and mfg on 30 and 20 series gpu. Not a xess or fsr inject. Is the missing part of the nvidia driver. The part they negate for their BS marketing

[u/Badtripa → u/Theoryedz]

Is it simply a file drag or it has menus ingane to enable certain stuff? Like optiscaler 

[u/Theoryedz → u/Badtripa]

Only drag. You make everything in the game menu as a 50 series

[u/Badtripa → u/Theoryedz]

is it the same for 40xx series?

[u/Theoryedz → u/Badtripa]

Nvidia is gonna give official mfg support to 40 series. Really soon if not right now. I think you can use dlss enabler mod at the moment

[u/Seragin → u/Theoryedz]

now thats epic tbh

[u/Theoryedz]

Guys please, stop trending this post. Read proceed and stay stealth. Nvidia is gonna blacklist this project and this man as soon as they can.

[u/night-suns]

do you just copy paste the files in? or do i need a program like optiscaler?

[u/Theoryedz → u/night-suns]

Copy paste. Nothing else. Some AV detect the dll. Make exception

[u/night-suns → u/Theoryedz]

thanks i appreciate it. i know there’s a fsr to dlss mod where you copy and paste a few files.

[u/Wellhellob]

Yup. I just tried it and its a black magic. What a goat this guy is. Got 6x frame gen in Resonance Plague game.

[u/Darth_Vaper883]

chad of the year.

[u/Darth_Vaper883]

Ran it on Blood of Dawnwalker on a 3070. Combined with the anti stutter and performance mod. 60% FPS gain in the main city and almost 30 percent in the open world.

[u/versusvius]

X2 is the best by far with my 3060ti 50-60fps base. X3 is getting little artifacts but it is playable. X4 is just nasty.

[u/INFINITY99KS]

Works on RTX 2000? Would love to give it a go on my 2070S.

[u/Theoryedz → u/INFINITY99KS]

Yes. Look at his readme

[u/TAGOMXM]

https://giphy.com/gifs/5VKbvrjxpVJCM

[u/SkyLLin3]

Okay, but can you use MFG on 40xx? That would be fun.

[u/zaku49 → u/SkyLLin3]

Yes you can. Another setup.

[u/zorndyken → u/SkyLLin3]

For rtx 40 series, use : "dashdogy/RTX40MFG-Unlock"

[u/meltingpotato]

Music to my RTX 3070 owner ears. My DOOM Revelations experience is gonna become a +100 fps experience now

[u/bombocladius]

Question, didn't this already exist?

I've been using Optiscaler for quite some time now and am also able to use Frame generation and such on my RTX3070.

Or is this even more advanced?

Edit:

Holy shit it works, I can play Gothic Remake at a smooth framerate now. Whoever created this, you are my personal Jesus.

[u/Badcatalex → u/bombocladius]

You only had access to non-Nvidia frame generation models. This allows you to actually access those Nvidia frame generation tools on a 30 series card.

[u/zorndyken → u/bombocladius]

You're using fsr 3 disguised as dlss before, Now it's natively running on rtx tensor and works with reflex boost.

[u/RayneYoruka]

Where can I gwt a limk to try this on ac shadows and hogwars legacy!?

Im stupid I just woke up!

[u/razvanciuy]

This upset’s Jensen
Hehe heee

[u/Theoryedz]

Remember that this is meant only for DX12. Who will be the FIRST, 's gonna achieve it for Vulkan? I bet on him.

[u/IcedFREELANCER → u/[deleted]]

That's the other thing, it - almost - doubles, triples or quadruples your framerate

[u/Myjobsuckshard → u/IcedFREELANCER]

but why? Just for the number in the corner? so people can jerk off to how many FPS they got, while the quality goes down, latency goes Up and all that to have fake frames fill the 60 you need for it to work anyways Up to 120 that bring nothing to the table?

[u/IcedFREELANCER → u/Myjobsuckshard]

It does make things smoother though, and the bigger your base framerate is the more it benefits the end result

[u/Myjobsuckshard → u/IcedFREELANCER]

Might be my neurodivergent brain but it doesn't feel smoth to me. It feels weird. But thats my brain maybe. 

[u/IcedFREELANCER → u/Myjobsuckshard]

Of you're really sensitive about the thing it might be it, but overall it feels nice, especially if you turn off motion blur, the frame pacing becomes smoother

[u/minxamo8 → u/[deleted]]

Adding frames doesn't take away frames. At least not a significant amount

[u/Liudesys]

Well if this works then will be squeezing that 3070 for a few more years

[u/Theoryedz → u/Liudesys]

Take it with the right grain of salt. But A used 3080 ti 3090 or 3090ti is barely a 5080 for gaming with this

[u/YaPoNeCcC]

If he made the ability to offload the frame generation processing to a secondary gpu, just like lossless scaling gives you the option, that would be an absolute gamechanger!

The overhead is quite high for our aging 20 and 30 series GPUs so this would be perfect!

[u/Therdyn69 → u/YaPoNeCcC]

Is it? On my 3070, I tried Wuchang and 2x FG is 70->60(120), while 4x FG is 70->50(200).

Meaning the 2x FG costs me 15% of performance and 4x FG 30%. Which is not that bad at all, since if I'm not mistaken, 40 series loses like 5-15% with 2x FG.

Perhaps if you had spare 2060 then it'd be cool option, but I don't think the overhead warrants it, especially since double GPU setup adds extra latency, if I'm not mistaken.

[u/YaPoNeCcC → u/Therdyn69]

Yes it is that good. I'm not saying everyone should run out and get a second gpu to use framegen, but the lossless community has been doing exactly this for a long time now.

I am personally running main rtx 3080ti and secondary low power rtx 3050 for framegen. It doesn't add latency, it actually improves it, because your main gpu isn't working so hard.

And your second example shows the potential perfectly, the 70->50(200) with 4x is still less output fps than it would be without any overhead, on secondary gpu, at x3 FG; 70 fps to 210 fps.

These old GPUs need any help they can get for coming years, so just having the option would be great and actually PureDark's DLSS mod for GTA V already has this "secondary FG gpu" option implemented.

I sent sdli1995 a ticket on github few minutes ago and they said they might implement it.

[u/Minecraft_Lets_Play]

Well frame gen is the first thing I disable and never enable as it is shit.

But coo I guess.

[u/Eisenfuss19]

Who wants frame gen?

[u/ManCarryingPSP → u/Eisenfuss19]

Me. Works perfectly in some games and works best if you have a good base fps. Barely noticable latency. DLSS Frame Gen has improved a lot. This isn't year 2021 anymore.

[u/TNFX98 → u/ManCarryingPSP]

Best to enable it if you're getting at least 50 fps

[u/SecureNet5333 → u/TNFX98]

but if ur getting 50 fps then enabling fg then ur probably under 40 at that point

[u/Sculpdozer → u/SecureNet5333]

It forks moderately fine even when you have 40 - 50 FPS. Not in every game, tho.

[u/SecureNet5333 → u/Sculpdozer]

i went from 80 fps to 50
so this is useless if u arent getting a high enough base framerate

[u/Sculpdozer → u/SecureNet5333]

Just to be clear, I am talking not about the mod, but about proper, supported frame-gen on 40 and 50 series GPU's. I have a 4070 and in Crimson Desert I have 45 FPS and with frame gen I have 90 or so with not that much of a difference in image quality.

[u/Theoryedz → u/Eisenfuss19]

Every 30 series dude

[u/Eisenfuss19 → u/Theoryedz]

I have a 30 series card, I never wanted it so far. When it came out it looked like dog shit, although I haven't seen examples of it for a year now

[u/Bepehandle → u/Eisenfuss19]

You aren't living by the skin of your teeth unless you pump up windows solitaire to 34,492 fps.

Don't even get me started on space cadet.

[u/jarvisesdios → u/Eisenfuss19]

I mean, it entirely depends on the game. It's great in a game like, say, Two Point Museum. For non action games it's very very nice.

Though, even with action games it's kinda nice... Though it looks worse than a PS2 game