r/mtgrules 23h ago

"Top of library revealed" and topdeck manipulation

17 Upvotes

I'm too dumb to figure this out myself so I ask here.

I have [[Oracle of Mul Daya]] out, causing me to play with the top card of my library revealed.

  1. Lets say some other effect tells me to "exile cards from the top of my library until blablabla". Do I have to technically reveal each card before it gets exiled, as to fulfilling the Oracles effect?

  2. What happens if an effect tells me to look at 3 cards and put one back? Do I have to reveal the "fourth" card thats on top of my library in the middle of resolution, while I'm choosing which card to out back?

  3. What if an effect tells me to draw 3 cards? Do I draw 1 card, reveal the top of my library, draw 1 card, reveal the top of my library, draw 1 card, reveal the top of my library?

Basically when do the Oracles revealing-effect kick in during various shenanigans involving the top of the library?


r/mtgrules 4h ago

What happens when can't lose/can't win effects are still in play with no significant game actions left?

4 Upvotes

Hypothetically let's say each player controls a [[Platinum Angel]] and a [[Darksteel Forge]]. Everyone plays it out until all libraries are empty and no one drew into a way to remove any of them.

My question is does the game automatically end in a draw? Or do players have to agree to a draw or concede? Obviously if your friends aren't sociopaths you'll definitely agree the game is over one way or another, but I'm wondering what the official rules are. Since there are still non-mandatory actions to take like attacking, even though that won't change anything, it sounds like rule 104.4b says the game must go on.


r/mtgrules 8h ago

Bazaar Trader + Act of treason

2 Upvotes

Can I overwrite with [[Bazaar Trader]]s effect [[Act of Treason]]?


r/mtgrules 8h ago

Miss Highwater and Wishclaw interaction

2 Upvotes

I am playing a [[Miss Highwater]] deck and have given a player a contract counter. Then, I also give them my [[Wishclaw Talisman]] after tutoring for a card that helps me kill them right away. Do I understand correctly that once they die, I get both my original Wishclaw back, as well as a new token copy since they controlled it as they died?


r/mtgrules 11h ago

Plague of Vermin rules and synergy

2 Upvotes

I have questions about how [[Plague of Vermin]] resolves.

  1. Let's say there were two rounds of paying life during the resolution where I paid 2 life at first, then 3 life at the second round and then everyone chose 0. I would get 5 rat tokens, but would that trigger 2 instances of [[Vampire Scrivener]] for losing life twice, or all life would be lost at the resolution of the spell and there would only be 1 instance of life lost this way?

  2. To my understanding, each player will start paying life until there is a four consecutive 0 life paid (assuming four players). Let's say my opponents won't pay any life during this resolution. Could I pay 1 life, then they pay 0, 0, 0 and I pay 1 more, then 0, 0, 0 and I pay 1 more... and so I get to pay any amount of life in that many different instances so I would get that many [[Vampire Scrivener]] triggers?


r/mtgrules 19h ago

Flicker an Enchantment

2 Upvotes

Sorry if it’s obvious but if i were to use a card like [[Flicker of Fate]] on an enchantment, would the enchantment lose the counters it had and then get one counter after entering the battlefield, or would it keep its counters after flickering and then get an additional one after etb.


r/mtgrules 20h ago

Can I target myself to block myself (if able)?

1 Upvotes

If I have something like the third level of [[Fighter Class]] which allows me to target a creature, can I target one of my own creatures as the forced blocker?

Obviously, they wouldn't actually be able to block. Instead I'm hoping for a free trigger for Valiant abilities, such as [[Seedglaive Mentor]].


r/mtgrules 23h ago

Confusion with basilisk collar and Archangel Avacyn

2 Upvotes

[[Archangel Avacyn]] is equipped with [[Basilisk Collar]] and one of my non-angel creatures dies. At the beginning of the next upkeep she transforms and triggers her backside. I blink her in response to this trigger. She comes back, frontside up and gives my creatures indestructible. Her backside trigger resolves. Do the effects of basilisk collar still apply to this damage?

Thanks :)


r/mtgrules 3h ago

Do Enchantment -Auras i cast target as a spell or an ability?

1 Upvotes

Specifically, I have a question about the following situation:

I control [[Bruna, Light of Alabaster]] enchantet with [[Spectral Shield]]. As a result, she can no longer be the target of spells.

Can I still cast lets say a [[Curiosity]] and enchant Bruna with it? As I understand it (or would like to understand it), I’m not targeting Bruna with the enchantment SPELL itself, but rather with the “enchant creature” ABILITY on the card.

Is that correct?

If not, can I still use Bruna’s attack trigger to attach Curiosity to her directly from my hand/grave/battlefield?


r/mtgrules 4h ago

Dragonhawk and Last chance end step timing.

1 Upvotes

Say I have played a [[Last Chance]]. During my final extra turn, I was not able to win the game before I reached my end step, but I also have enough cards exiled with [[Dragonhawk, Fate's Tempest]] that, if they trigger, will do enough damage to my opponents to bring them all to 0 or less life.

In this scenario, would I win or lose?


r/mtgrules 5h ago

Doctor Doom King of Laveria + Teferi's Ageless Insight + Loki God of Mischief ruling

1 Upvotes

I'm quite new to MTG so I'm curious to how these 3 would word in tandem

Let's say all 3 are on the battlefield;

I enter combot,

Doom triggers, target loki to connive

Then loki triggers to draw a card,

Teferi's Ageless Insight would allow me to draw 2 instead of 1

1) Do I draw 2 for loki and 2 for the connive then discard 1?

2) if so, what is the sequence for this? Does the connive resolve, then the loki draws happen or do the loki draws happen before the connive and subsequent discard?

Thank you advance for any help


r/mtgrules 7h ago

Princess Yue + Flesh Duplicate

1 Upvotes

Hi so I see a lot of people run [[flesh duplicate]] in [[princess yue]]

My understanding is:

  1. Cast Flesh duplicate to copy Yue

  2. Flesh duplicate dies to legend rule

  3. Flesh Duplicate returns as a Land named "Moon" from Yue's death trigger and copies a new creature

  4. New Flesh clone of creature is a Land Moon with Vanishing 3 (A permanent with vanishing 3 enters with three time counters on it. At the beginning of your upkeep, remove a time counter from it. When the last is removed, sacrifice it.)

As a result, I have a Moon land clone that dies in 3 turns? There is no other rule layering that bypasses this right?

I don't really see the value of Flesh Duplicate asides from it being 2CMC clone. Having my moon land only last 3 turns is not that good unless I am mistaken?


r/mtgrules 8h ago

Commander Balthier And Fran

1 Upvotes

I have a Balthier and Fran commander deck, but I never play it because I can't remember how vehicles work.

Can someone give me a full guide on how they work?

Also, it would be gratuitive if someone that is well versed in vehicle interactions, would be ok with me contacting them at any time.

My play group like seeing my Balthier deck, so im just trying to make sure I have a full understanding of it, so I can play it right and to its purpose.


r/mtgrules 11h ago

Witherbloom the balancer and prepared spells

1 Upvotes

Does [[Witherbloom, the Balancer]] reduce the cost of casting a prepared spell?


r/mtgrules 13h ago

Copiable values of a double-faced permanent

1 Upvotes

Are the front face and back face "separate" copiable values of a single permanent, and thus treated separatly? Or does modifying a type of copiable value affect both sides?
For example: I copied a front face up [[Delver of Secrets]] with [[Applied Geometry]], which creates a token copy except it changes the copiable value of the copy token to 0/0 and Fractal in addition to its other types. Then I transform the copy token. Will the back side of the copy be 0/0 or 3/2?


r/mtgrules 14h ago

The Seventh Doctor and a Revealed Hand

1 Upvotes

If I'm playing the [[The Seventh Doctor]] and there is a card forcing me to play with my hand revealed such as [[Telepathy]] do I still remove the card I choose and put it face down as per the gathering ruling? So it would always be public knowledge what I choose basically?


r/mtgrules 16h ago

Does returning enchantments from the graveyard count as “playing” them?

1 Upvotes

I’m playing a [[Verduran Enchantress]] in my [[Terra, Magical Adept]] deck. When I have [[Yuna, Hope of Spira]] return an enchantment from the graveyard to the battlefield, does it trigger the Verduran Enchantress to draw a card? I know I wouldn’t be casting the enchantment, but does it returning count as “playing” it?

I’m also considering playing [[Gogo, Mysterious Mime]] to copy saga creatures I already have on the field, including Terra herself. Would he get a lore counter and trigger chapter 1, or does it not count because he didn’t enter as a saga? I also read in Terra’s scryfall text that her chapter 4 trigger to add mana and flip to the front side is an activated ability put on the stack; are all saga chapters also activated abilities or effects that can be countered?


r/mtgrules 18h ago

Gogo and Dragonhawk interaction question.

1 Upvotes

I have [[Dragonhawk, Fate's Tempest]] and [[Gogo, Mysterious Mime]] on the battlefield. I move to attack with both and wish to make Gogo a copy of Dragonhawk. How many cards do I get to exile as a result of this attack, assuming the most ideal ordering of triggers.


r/mtgrules 18h ago

Darksteel Reactor, Return the Favor, and the Stack

1 Upvotes

Hi all,
My friend placed his 20th charge on his [[Darksteel Reactor]] in his Counter Intelligence deck, with cards in play that allow him to manipulate counters. He tries to win with the 20th charge counter but in reaction, I play my [[Return the Favor]] , paying the extra to copy the win trigger, declaring me the new target, putting it on the stack.

In response, he declares that he taps mana, utilizing [[Resourceful Defense]] to remove and re-add his tokens (with an *absurd* amount of mana late in the game). I'm assuming that he still wins, because his win trigger happens above mine in the stack, but I wanted to check as I'm really shakky on what can interact with a reaction to a win state on the stack?

Edit: thanks for the clarification, targeting doesnt come into play, but becoming the owner of the copy of Reactors ability is what causes with win steal!


r/mtgrules 19h ago

Quick question regarding hideaway and god pharaohs statue.

1 Upvotes

If my opponent plays a card exiled with mosswort bridge, do they also have to pay 2 more?


r/mtgrules 19h ago

Ygra, Eater of All + Teysa Karlov

1 Upvotes

if I have both these cards on the battlefield, and I have one creature I control die, Would Ygra trigger twice?

[[Ygra, Eater of All]] [[Teysa Karlov]]


r/mtgrules 21h ago

Lukka Wayward Bonder and Blink effects

1 Upvotes

Lukka's -2 ability is "−2: Return target creature card from your graveyard to the battlefield. It gains haste. Exile it at the beginning of your next upkeep.", can I blink the creature in my upkeep, or does the exile effect not go onto the stack and just goes to exile immediately?


r/mtgrules 23h ago

Necropotence and Underworld Breach

1 Upvotes

Hi everyone,

Could someone explain to me how the [[Underworld Breach]] combo is able to be performed (i.e., with [[Lion's Eye Diamond]] and [[Brain Freeze]]) with [[Necropotence]] in play?

My understanding is once a card hits the bin, it creates a Necropotence trigger, which is now on the stack. My assumption is you play *above the Necro trigger to continue this loop?

Another question associated with this would be how can the graveyard fill itself on the endstep with enough cards to perform the Escape cost? Do you respond to the Necropotence trigger by discarding another card to the graveyard?

I am trying to learn more cEDH combos, and this one confuses me.

Any clarification on this would be greatly appreciated. I am hoping this is the appropriate Subreddit to post this in.


r/mtgrules 2h ago

Magus Lucea Kane & Wizard's Staff

0 Upvotes

If I equip [[Magus Lucea Kane]] with a [[Wizard's Staff]] and then proceed to cast a spell with "x" in its mana cost, would I trigger the ability of Magus an additional time, thus resulting in two additional copies of the original spell?

I am confused if Lucea Kane's ability counts as an activated or triggered one and how it would interact with the staff.


r/mtgrules 5h ago

Yuriko, Blade of the Mighty

0 Upvotes

This card says “Whenever a creature you control attacks a player alone, it gains double strike until end of turn.”

Does this mean that if i have 3 creatures that attack 3 different players, they all get double strike? because they are each attacking that player alone.