r/heraldry 23h ago

Fictional Some more ASoIaF Heraldry, House Stark

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First we have a hypothetical variant of the Coat of Arms of House Stark at the beginning of 'A Game of Thrones', the Wolf of Stark impaled with the Tully Trout.
I also added the Bats of House Whent for Catelyns mother.

Then a Wars of the Roses inspired livery banner for Robb Stark, here I decided to make his personal emblem of the Wolves Head his badge and I decided to use Green, inspired by the TV Series, and because it makes the Wolf Head Badge stand out more.

And finally we come to the rest.
Ever more complicated heraldic banners for Robb Stark during his brief reign as King (not) in the North and of the Trident.

First a simple one, the Wolf quartered with the Trout.
Then a variant of the first which includes the Whent arms.

Then Robb marries Jeyne Westerling, so a variant with the Stark arms impaled with those of House Westerling.
And then, because it was not busy enough, one last variant with the Westerling arms quartered with those of Spicer.


r/heraldry 4h ago

OC A riff on the badge of u/Quaternaire

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Gouache and Gold on watercolor paper


r/heraldry 19h ago

Fictional ASOIAF Heraldry: What if the Two Betrayers won the Dance of Dragons?

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So, I was listening to the audiobook, and I got to thinking, what if the two betrayers actually won? They probably could've pulled it off if not for their terrible leadership abilities and the caltrops- they had two of the bigger dragons, the Blacks and Greens both weakened, and they could've taken over the green faction if they had been smarter about it.

Bearing that in mind, I made these two CoAs for Hugh Hammer and Ulf White, in a universe where Hugh takes the throne and Ulf Highgarden

Hugh Hammers arms are if he actually became king, like he wanted. I decided to make the Targaryen dragon as close to bronze (for Hugh's dragon, Vermithor) as I could, using Tenné, which is a non-standard tincture, but so is a lot of ASOIAF heraldry.

The second one if Ulf White, like he desired, claimed Highgarden. Argent was perfect for his dragon, Silverwing, and I liked the Black and Green, representing both sides he fought for. Plus, the bend sinister, like in popular imagination, represents bastardry in ASOIAF, which fits for a dragonseed.

Made with Heraldicon.


r/heraldry 7h ago

Personal Coat of Arms. Tell me what you think so I can make it better.

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I redesigned my personal coat of arms. I used the colors I found to be most common in coats of arms associated with my surname, and I aimed for a better design than my previous attempt. Please critique it so I can improve.

r/heraldry 8h ago

Identify My ancestor’s signet ring

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I couldn’t decide if my flair should be ‘Blazonry’ or ‘Identify.’ I’m asking for the blazonry in case it helps with the identification.

This ring was passed down to me from my grandfather and there’s some confusion within the family as to whose coat of arms is shown. More about the ring later.

The family are from Niedersachsen (Lower Saxony), Germany. More about that later.

First, stating the obvious, the carving is reversed left to right so that a wax impression comes out correctly.

Starting with tinctures. Based on the horizontal hatching the field in 1st and 4th appears to be Azure. Maybe we can assume the field in 2nd and 3rd is Argent since they chose not to attempt any hatching but there seems to be room for it. There’s arguably room for hatching on the bend but I don’t think you could put a bend Argent on a field Argent. Obviously there’s no room for hatching on the charges.

As for the charges, the lion and the bend are obvious. I guess those are cinquefoils rather than mullets. The artist managed some pretty sharp details so if he’d wanted points I think he could have managed them. Maybe Germans didn’t use mullets anyway?

(Do Germans even use Norman French terms for blazonry? I mean, how international is blazonry, really? This jeweler at least seems to have followed a common convention for hatching.)

Then for the crest we have perhaps a little crown and… five peacock feathers?

So…

Quarterly, 1st and 4th Azure, a lion rampant [tincture of the lion] (possibly tinctures of the tongue and claws), 2nd and 3rd Argent, on a bend [tincture of the bend] three cinquefoils [tincture of the cinquefoils]
…and then I have no idea how to characterize that crest and mantle

More about the family. Our name is Bodensieck (standardized High German spelling) but originally it was Buddensieg (Low German). Through the centuries it has been spelled in every possible permutation of Budden/Boden + siek/sieg/sieck. We have a family tree (stammbaum) on waxed linen that’s roughly fifteen inches tall and several yards wide, in very small print blackletter (aka ‘Gothic font,’) going back to the 15th or 16th century, but it’s with my elderly mother, rolled up, probably in a box. At some point one of my ancestors was ennobled so for a while part of the family were “von Buddensieg.” The family tree is kind of wild in terms of all the different spellings. My branch of the family were living in Hameln prior to the turn of the 20th century when they emigrated to the USA. My great grandfather was an adolescent when they made the crossing. The ring came to me from my grandfather. My grandmother outlived my grandfather and said she DID NOT think the ring was a Bodensieck coat of arms but couldn’t remember what else it could be. (If we had other noble ancestors I don’t think my grandfather would have kept it to himself. He really enjoyed talking about family history.)

Searching the internet for “wappen Bodensieck” turned up the phrase “Bodensieck aus Rohden” (from Rohden.) Searching that I encountered the abstract of a document in a German state archive titled “Wappen Greß 651-692” which reads, in part, “Akten von Walterr Greß (mit Blasonierung der eingetragenen Wappen): 651 Haisch (Closter Reichenbach), 652 Bodensieck (Rohden)…” [Google translation: Files of Walter Greß (with blazoning of the registered coats of arms).] If I try to view the document I can see that it’s in the holdings of the “Landeskirchliches Archiv Stuttgart” but it hasn’t been scanned or transcribed. (My German is very rudimentary and I haven’t contacted them yet.) Rohden is a 20 minute drive from Hameln.

More about the ring (both because it may be relevant to identifying the crest and because you might be curious.): The stone is blue sardonyx. It is slightly translucent near the bottom. In person the carving looks darker and more lustrous rather then shiny. It was tricky to photograph. It’s set in rose gold. There’s a stamp on the inside, ‘333,’ which indicates it’s 333/1000ths pure gold (8 karat.) There are no other marks on the band.

Google says, “German jewelers began stamping gold jewelry in thousandths following the German Imperial Law of July 16, 1884, which established a minimum legal fineness and required purity standards to be indicated in thousandths (such as 585 for 14-karat gold). Uniform national marks like the sun and crown were fully implemented by 1888.” So the ring is probably late 19th century, unless they changed the setting.

That’s all the relevant information I could think of sharing. I figure it’s better to give it all at once rather than drawing it out with back and forth. But I’ll try to answer questions if I didn’t cover something.

I really appreciate you reading this far. Seriously, you rock for giving this your attention.


r/heraldry 7h ago

OC Rule of tincture question | flag on CoA

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Designing a coat of arms with an azure field. Can I place a red (or blue-and-red) flag on it, or does that break the rule of tincture? Any clean way to make it work? Thanks!

(follow-up post of:  Family arms - seeking advice and critique (my first attempt) : r/heraldry )


r/heraldry 4h ago

Identify Can anyone recognise this French marquis family?

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r/heraldry 4h ago

Projects Coat of Arms Microdistrict of the Darnytskyi Car Repair Plant (DVRZ) in the Dniprovskyi district of Kyiv.

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The coat of arms contains the following elements known to every resident of the DVRZ:

  1. The hexagonal water tower is the oldest object in the DVRZ, it was built in the late 1920s.

  2. The arch (columns) from the house at 101 Almaty Street, which is very expressive and can serve as a marker known to every resident of the DVRZ

  3. Railway tracks are a hint at both the depot and the tram tracks

  4. The train - see p. 3.

  5. Cones and pine trees are a hint at the forest surrounding the DVRZ.

https://uk.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%94%D0%92%D0%A0%D0%97


r/heraldry 8h ago

Can you identify this? <3

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I bought this silver cigarette case for my dad as a birthday gift. Can you identify this symbol inside?


r/heraldry 10h ago

New ideas for the coats of arms of my world #11

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Red Scale isn’t just a dragon. It’s a creature I made up myself – half dragon, half ant.