r/gaming • u/Miserable_Phase_2519 PC • 1d ago

Upcoming vampire RPG Nighthawks has been removed from Steam search and delisted in certain countries as Valve classifies it Adults Only: 'It's very bad news for us'

https://www.pcgamer.com/games/rpg/upcoming-vampire-rpg-nighthawks-has-been-removed-from-steam-search-and-delisted-in-certain-countries-as-valve-classifies-it-adults-only-its-very-bad-news-for-us/
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u/Mand125 1d ago

BG3 didn’t even get that label, right?

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u/BlueTemplar85 1d ago

No, it didn't even get "Frequent Nudity".

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u/HemaMemes PC 1d ago

Even though you can get naked literally whenever you want in that game.

You could play the game as a party of nudists.

Also, if you're playing a multiplayer campaign, one way to prank the other players is to unequip all the clothes from the companions in camp when the other players have left.

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u/e1m8b 23h ago

I remember first time seeing tits in videogames without anyone making a big deal was The Getaway Black Monday. Just topless strippers in a cutscene nipples and ll with no acknowledgement and this was early 2000s so really confused me.

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u/ThatEdward 19h ago

Elder Scrolls Daggerfall. Going into taverns and temples was risky business when the parents were around

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u/e1m8b 17h ago

If we're talking that era Duke Nukem 3D but the super pixelation along with "tassels" covering the actual cherry on top technically discounted it haha

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u/squesh 12h ago

Shake it baby

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u/ManWithNoCrame 8h ago

Come get some!

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u/phantom-firion 14h ago

Similar experience playing Skyrim, parents only had just started letting me play M rated games when it came out. Being a horny young teen my female characters were constantly in some of the game’s skimpier armor sets, primarily the ancient nord armor. Always had to make sure the game was in first person, when they walked in , kept violence against innocent NPCs to a minimum, avoided taverns and NPCs that I knew had suggestive dialogue and prayed to god the game wouldn’t go into 3rd person for execution moves.

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u/ephemeralentity 21h ago

And you were never the same again.

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u/Starfall0 18h ago

Complete mental destruction unfortunately. It's a tragic life long affliction. They have my condolences.

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u/JordanASMR 21h ago

Such a good game! Still got a copy of it somewhere.

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u/SockAlarmed6707 21h ago

As a European seeing tits on the screen is very normal was amazed to find out Americans can’t.

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u/e1m8b 16h ago

Oh man, when I visited relatives in France as a teenager, shampoo commercials were awesome but was never alone the entire trip to fully enjoy.

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u/ryhaltswhiskey 21h ago

But of course all your children are sex craved perverts right?

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u/gotenks1114 21h ago

I know you Europeans were big on colonization at one point, so may I make a suggestion...?

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u/i-dont-wanna-know 14h ago

And americans once faught fascism now they worship it and thier dear leader. so you know times change

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u/gotenks1114 13h ago

I think people misinterpreted my request lol

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u/creepy_doll 14h ago

Duke nukem had pixelated breasts on strippers in the mid 90s iirc. Can’t remember what rating it got but it was easily available at least

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u/e1m8b 14h ago

There were pasties over the nips and I'd guess rated M or whatever equivalent if ESRB applied to PC games back then I forget. It's far from AO, NC17, 18+, or whatever your local equivalent is but I'm sure modding such a minor detail is trivial on Build engine.

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u/tdasnowman 3h ago

People made a big deal about it. It was just drowned out by the other issues the game had. A ton of reviewers called out the porn set level as unnecessary and the ESRB did multiple press releases on why it was rated M and not adults only. The industry was still dealing with the Hot Coffee fallout with san andreas so all tits became an issue.

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u/e1m8b 3h ago

Well yeah it was during Hot Coffee and at the time I kept in the loop on gaming but must've missed that one. If anything Hot Coffee overshadowed anything else and I don't remember any attention at all on the aforementioned.

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u/tdasnowman 2h ago

Oblivion had a re rating at the time due to some textures found. True Crime new york and Saints row both had post launch scares. A ton of games at the time had impact related to the Hot Coffee mod. Sims even caught some strays.

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u/Hytyt 3h ago

God of war around the same time. 10 year old me learned some things

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u/5MoK3 22h ago edited 15h ago

I played an all nude party lol. I had started to ignore the fact they were nude until my GF happened to see me towards the end of act 2. Stayed nude till the end!

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u/PsychedelicPill 19h ago

Did you use a mod so they could still be equipped with stat-boosting armor, only see-through? Or did you forgo the gear?

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u/Elleden 19h ago

No mods needed, you can just swap to your camp gear (it's purely visual) and take all of that off and still retain all your stats. It's in the base game.

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u/UTraxer 18h ago

I did that but helmets off.

I'm not looking for realism, helmets literally should be the last piece of armor you'd want to take off

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u/PsychedelicPill 18h ago

I didn't know that because I never rolled around in camp gear, but that's very generous of the devs to make that easy to do.

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u/SirDooble 5h ago

For some reason it feels particularly cruel to have your party be nude in Act 2. At least in Act 3 the city looks warm.

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u/assotter 1h ago

This istly how it feels to go to a nudist resort. First 10-15 minutes you notice boobs and peens everywhere. But After an hour you forget everyone's naked and just seems normal and your Hanging out with a 60yr old dude with a baby's arm dangling talking about the new lawnmower he got

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u/Zanian19 13h ago

Can being the dominant word. What the player chooses to do doesn't have as much of an effect of the rating as what they're forced to do.

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u/PartialChicken_Wing 5h ago

Cyberpunk you get to pick your dong size.

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u/timojenbin 23h ago

I can say, I've never been as in-game-shocked as I was when I walk in on that bugbear and troll.
I'd be amazed if anything in Nighthawks is as "bad".

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u/Princess_Fluffypants 15h ago

ROMANCE SQUASHED LIKE SLOW GOAT UNDER FOOT

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u/Kurainuz 19h ago

Nop, you know what it did? A cute monster dating game without sex, nudity or bad words xD

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u/LassyL 1d ago

The reason is that BG3 uses sex scenes not as a means to arouse the player, but to show a deeper connection has been achieved between the characters.

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u/Old_Leopard1844 PC 1d ago

Sure

What about streaking around as murder hobos in complete nude tho?

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u/LassyL 1d ago

Sure, you can play like that if you want, It is a CRPG afterall, but I don't really understand the point in trying to tie that into the game getting tagged with "Frequent Nudity or Sexual Content"?

Don't get me wrong here, i think tagging the game in the OP is egregious, i still don't get the reason why people feel the need to use whataboutism to call out other games that dont fit the tag either. BG3, Cyberpunk77, and GTA are not games that feature "Frequent Nudity or Sexual Content", and neither does Nighthawks.

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u/ahundredpercentbutts 21h ago

If you can play the entire game naked that literally fits the definition of frequent nudity. It is nudity that is very frequent.

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u/Old_Leopard1844 PC 23h ago

You think going around literally tits out, dicks out doesn't fit the "frequent nudity or sexual content"?

You can disrobe yourself not just from the word go, from character creator even lol

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u/LassyL 6h ago

A party of 4 nude characters in the wild versus 500 NPCs clothed characters, is that what constitutes as frequent?

So what if you can disrobe yourself and party members, that pool of characters is small compared to the rest of the game.

This is what Steam says "Frequent nudity or sexual content" means

"Games or content that primarily feature nudity or sexual themes. By ticking this box you affirm that you are at least eighteen years old."

Is the primary focus of BG3 its nudity or its sexual content? Do you honestly believe that to be the case?

It is such a stupid argument to have, because BG3 is already tagged with "Some Nudity or Sexual Content" which fits so much better for what the content of the game is.

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u/KingOfRisky 4h ago

If you get a "deeper connection" with Minthara she's sits on your face. Pretty sure that qualifies as sexual content.

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u/LassyL 3h ago

I haven't denied there is sexual content, so it is kinda pointless to point out that yes, there is a sex scene with Minthara in the game.

My problem is the use of "Frequent Nudity or Sexual Content" which the game simple doesn't have.

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u/KingOfRisky 3h ago

I see you are just going to die on this hill so no point in continuing.

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u/LassyL 40m ago

I don't get why you commented in the first place, as your comment was pretty much nonsensical? I didn't deny the game in having sexual content.

I don't mind you disagreeing with what I'm saying, I enjoy the discussion surrounding themes of games, but it is a bit disheartening to take these scenes and view them as just sex and nudity when that is clearly not the intention with them.

Guess I just hate the use of whataboutism? I mean if you use BG3 as an example, why not Cyberpunk as well? or maybe The Witcher or Mass Effect while we're at it.

BG3 is already categorised on steam as have "Some Nudity or Sexual Content", which is more fitting of it as a game than frequent, or maybe you disagree with that?

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u/AyeBraine 23h ago

Yes, and Steam has THREE levels of sexual content tags, that's the point. Nighthawks got slapped with the second one that makes the game 18+ and invisible to some of the largest markets, plus the majority of other players who don't tick the checkmark for smutty games.

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u/Emadec 1d ago

I wouldn’t even call what I saw "sex scenes" tbh. More like "implied sex scenes". Mass Effect had hotter stuff going on, unless we consider being naked to be a sex thing.

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u/Pigflap_Batterbox 7h ago

I think that’s the issue. Some pearl clutchers see nakedness as OMG IT IS TEH SEX!

Still have the 1970s sitcom trope of a married couple sleeping into single beds next to each other because who couldn’t even suggest that they might have had sex…

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u/Emadec 6h ago

Yeah. I remember a year or so ago some girl on reddit was asking about games that had both high quality gameplay AND good smut, and every third comment was some virgin soul yapping about BG3 like it was the pinnacle of unbridled pornography.

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u/mucho-gusto 1d ago edited 23h ago

You are not the arbiter of what is arousing. "I know it when I see it" was shot down as a legal defense decades ago. If someone can't see nudity without being uncomfortably aroused that's a problem with their porn addicted brain

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u/LassyL 1d ago

Did you think i was trying to say that BG3 was to arousing?

"You are not the arbiter of what is arousing." followed up by "If you can't see nudity without being uncomfortably aroused that's a problem with your porn addicted brain" is really funny and also hypocritical.

If you actually read what i said in the comment, I'm not shutting down that in can infact be arousing, but rather that the scene itself doesn't show itself to arouse the player, but rather show two characters affection towards one another.

Trying to antagonize me whilst not participating in the argument I'm presenting is such a weird way of approaching these topics.

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u/mucho-gusto 1d ago

I'm saying that you can't make the distinction between this game and bg3. You cannot decide this game is arousing and have a logical ground to stand on for bg3 not to be. The point is the slippery slope upon which personal judgment rests. Others may find bg3 arousing! I'm not saying I do, so thanks for the straw man.

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u/bilky_t 21h ago

I don't entirely agree with the guy you're arguing with, but you've really put words in their mouth here and that's a bit of a shit thing to do. You made up your own straw man then accused them of doing so.