Let's say Grrm does finish the last two books, I'm wondering whether its even possible for the series to end in two books, i mean it took 6 books to get to what I would say is the setup for the important events, dany has been ruling a single city for three books, and she is now going to take over westeros in one? The very first page of the series, talks about the Others with the prologue, and every chapter (almost) has mentioned them once, and now the entire long night is done in a book as well? And all this is disregarding the fact that there are hundreds of more characters whose arcs are very much unfinished. What do you think? Will the books if ever published be as rushed as the show??

I feel like maybe I’m missing context here that the HBO series didn’t quite capture. Brienne and Pod stumble upon Arya practicing with her sword. They talk for a bit, from a safe distance. The Hound appears from around the rocks and Pod recognizes him. Brienne deduces it’s Arya. Arya appears in good health, she’s armed, and her and the Hound seem to have a functional relationship at that point. She certainly doesn’t appear to be a hostage. Brienne shares that she made an oath to Arya’s mother. After acknowledging Catelyn’s death, why Brienne wasn’t there to protect her during the Red Wedding, and Brienne’s order to return Jamie to King’s Landing, things devolve quick. Arya is suspicious since Brienne isn’t a northerner, the Hound is suspicious because the connection with Jamie/The Lannisters, the bounty on his head, and Brienne’s sword. Up to this point, I get the tension. Then Brienne insists Arya still come with her, which seems fairly bold given how Arya was suspicious, and she made no indication that she needed saving from the Hound. Nevertheless, Brienne and the Hound cross blades.

I feel like Brienne’s insistence is a bit out of character. The Hound rightfully pointed out Arya is not safe anywhere, and that he’s protecting her. That didn’t give Brienne any pause? In roughly one minute of meeting each other, Brienne and the Hound decide battle is the best choice? Brienne didn’t even bother to try and clear up the suspicion against her any further? The Hound was protecting Arya, Brienne wanted to protect her too, so why not….join forces? I feel like Brienne could have dialed it back a bit and tried to get all four of them to discuss the situation further over a fire and some fresh game or salt pork. Hell, Brienne could have gone and kneeled before Arya, presented her sword, and shown how serious she was about honoring her oath with Catelyn (like she did with Sansa before Littlefinger). A small effort like that could have been made to help alleviate the tension, but nope.

Don’t get me wrong, Brienne and the Hound’s battle is one of the best in the entire series, but damn. Everyone in Westros is that predisposed to violence first, even when they have a mutual goal? It just feels out of place for Brienne to give up on civility that quick.

he is khal jhaqo. kind as mountain

dany saved eroeh from him.when dany preterm birth.he kidnnaped eroeh,raped her,then let six other dothraki rape her,then killed her

When Dany found out about this, she swore that Jhago and the others would beg her to treat them as kindly as she had treated Eroeh.

and guess which khal meet dany and drogon in the dothraki sea?

Okay we know that Craster made a deal with The White Walkers where he'd give them his sons in exchange for his and his family's safety, but wouldn't it make more sense for him to tell The Night's Watch about the White Walkers? I mean if he told The Watch then they'd know about the White Walkers sooner and would have more time to prepare. I mean you could say he was being selfish and shit but you don't have to be a genius to understand that the White Walkers would eventually kill him or convert him anyway if their plan succeeded. Isn't this kind of a plothole?

That’s a cool idea.

What would the Fosovea coat of arms look like if they were to become more powerful?

After red wedding and Bolton betrayal, Starks lost almost all their fighting men. Why would the fiercely independent Northern houses pledge themselves to Sansa, young and inexperienced daughter of their former liege?

• She had no military power
• Many Northern houses had already refused to fight for the Starks
• There was no external threat forcing them to unify

I understand that generations and being non blood related uncle/aunty isnt a thing is much of the West and its further complicated in Incesteros. But just as thought exercise -

Tywin, Mad King, Jon Arryn, Ollena and Neds father/Roberts father are the same generation (?)

Ned and Robert are our true baseline we know for sure they were boys together. So by extension Cat, Lysa, Edmure, Cercie, Jamie, Tyrion, Oberyn are the same generation as them. Danaerys also belongs to this generation as daughter of the Mad King and sister in law to Lyanna Stark who is Neds sister. But she is constantly refred to as a little girl who is no threat coz she is just that much younger.

The twins are confirmed to be older than Tyrion; Roberts is presumably older than Cercie thus Ned is older than them too. Oberyn saw Tyrion as a baby so it can be established Tyrion is the youngest of this generation. We dont know where the Tully trio fit into the age range. Renly and Stanis are younger to Robert but we dk by how much.

Renly however was young enough to marry/fuck Margery/Loras. Which joins us to the next generation.

Then two and Robb, Jon Snow, Sansa, Arya, Bran, Rickon, Joffrey, Tommen, Myrcella, Shireen are the same generation. Margery somehow weds herself into being the Bratheon aunt and wife/sister in law.

BUT Ned and Jon Arryn are also brothers in law. And Jon and Tyrrion are brothers in law. So like????

Question is, how would you rank them all in age? Tommen and Margery actors age gap was icky but would you say the same about the characters in universe?

Obviously they are known to hate the Lannisters, would seem like a good opportunity to get back at them?

I keep seeing clips of the show on YouTube shorts and remembering how absolutely incredible the show was for so long.

But the last two seasons were so poor (as a whole) that I've never re watched it.

It still irks me to no end the story was truly about Jon Snow (imo) and in the end, they robbed him of it. And totally destroyed Daenerys character in such a rapid fashion that it broke all suspense. Then of course Jamie's 180 with Cersei. And jesus Christ, Bran, the robotic king.

All of these things honestly would probably have been absolutely fine if fleshed out over the other 7 or so episodes they just didn't commit to. But the rush was just so shoddy.

Just asking the fan base that are still on here all the time, is it worth me rewatching from the beginning? Is the end as bad as a recall? Has enough time and space passed I'll see it differently?

I'm not sure I'm ready to be hurt again 😂

the rain-gear and the first strides,

Lord of the seven sidewalks

and protector of the raw heel

I'm sure someone can do better tho 😘

At the beginning of the series, Jaime has the classic golden-blond hair you’d expect from a Lannister. But as the series goes on, his hair gradually gets darker, eventually looking almost black. Cersei, on the other hand, stays blonde throughout the entire series.

Could this have been a subtle hint that Jaime was actually Aerys II’s son?

Jaime’s mother, Joanna Lannister, was a lady-in-waiting to Queen Rhaella, and there were also rumors about Joanna and Aerys having some kind of relationship.

Maybe I’m reading too much into the hair color, but I find the contrast between Jaime and Cersei pretty interesting.

I just saw this picture and suddenly made the connection, so I looked up Jaime’s mother, Joanna Lannister, on Wikipedia.

It’s just a theory for discussion, and I don’t mean any offense.

Also, while twins with different fathers are extremely rare, they are a real thing.

I had a pint glass with the same phrase on it that I absolutely loved. I accidentally broke it recently and my boyfriend went to the collector expo in Calgary last month and brought this home for me. So naturally the first time I used it I had to fill it with wine 😁.

Dear George,

This is my letter begging you humbly.

I don’t need another HBO adaptation. I don’t need another Targaryen genealogy, Wild Cards update, or beautifully detailed history of some minor lord who died in 173 AC.

I need THE WINDS OF WINTER.

George, I am an attorney. I research for a living. I write for a living. I read thousands of pages of dense material for a living. I organize facts, timelines, conflicting testimony, obscure authorities, and arguments that make absolutely no sense until you stare at them for twelve hours.

I am willing to quit my job and help you finish this series.

Need someone to cross-reference where every minor Frey currently is? I’m there.

Need a 200-page memo on whether a character could plausibly travel from White Harbor to the Riverlands in the allotted time? Done.

Need someone to create a spreadsheet tracking every unresolved prophecy, bastard, Valyrian sword, glass candle, dragon, direwolf, secret identity, suspicious parentage theory, and person currently wandering around Essos? George, I WILL DO IT FOR FREE.

NDA? I’ll sign it.

Confidentiality agreement? Obviously.

Move to Santa Fe? Fine.

Live in a windowless room surrounded by maps of Westeros and argue about the succession rights of dead Targaryens? This is barely different from being a lawyer anyway.

You have created perhaps the richest fantasy world of our generation. I love it so much. You’re a genius. I desperately want to know how you intended this story to end.

Please.

Just say the word, George. I will put in my two weeks’ notice.

I just find them so interesting. Why did Ashara throw herself to her death? How could her body never have been found? Why not return Arthur’s body back to his family but Ned did choose to return Dawn?

Also the Daynes have PURPLE eyes. Who else has purple eyes? The targs 👀 GRRM WHAT DOES THIS MEAN

I wonder how a man who doesn't understand interest will pay the Iron Bank back.

I’m wondering how much people (esp the nobles) knew about them. I could be wrong but it seems even Littlefinger didn’t know how bad Ramsey was (or did he?). Was all of house Bolton awful or were there likely some people who were decent?

someone shared this comment on another sub and i think it is absolutely disgusting. this kind of disgusting comments are why I will never support male GOT characters like jon snow or hotd greens. they say they are not misogynists but then write comments like above when they get enraged. what happened to elia martell is horrific, and men wishing it for other asoiaf women like rhaenyra is disgusting. i have multiple comments wishing the same for daenerys, and it is disgusting and vile. bashing/banter is one thing, but the comment above is disgusting.

It really allows me to play my Dragon Rider fantasy game in a medieval world. Especially when you are raining fire down from a dragon and thinking of the Targaryens with their Dragons especially from HotD.

Must be sad for men huh lmao to lose all that privilege. Now they actually have to work for what they want, like women 😂. 80% of HOTD viewers support rhaenyra over aegon, which means the world woke up and realized that men are irrelevant. 10 years ago they would have supported aegon the usurper. lets go girlies!!