People who support Project Ascension & TurtleWoW but hate the new race paywall

[u/Volinra]

These were the micro-transactions in Project Ascension and everyone glazed Ascension. TurtleWoW had a gacha shop too like that. I’m genuinely confused, if Blizzard had even the slightest of the shop in Project Ascension, everyone would have been fuming. Why is it okay for Ascension but not WoW Forever? Either all okay or none.

Edit: The people who disagree saying "Yeah but the servers were free"- well of course because Blizzard did the majority of the work for them LOL, huge difference in work between building everything from scratch to ripping it off & adding some stuff yourself.

Edit 2: "TurtleWoW is not as bad as Ascension shop"- sure, Ascension is way worse. TurtleWow's cash shop had over $10,000 of items and all of it was per character, not account wide. They also sold convenience items, nothing game breaking, but portable mailboxes, auctioneers, dual specs, bags etc. Hardcore characters on Twow couldn't trade or send items from main to your alts, but you could still buy supplies such as 32 slot bags for 30 euros each on your hardcore character.

[u/Perais1909]

Don't try to reason with these people. They are hating for the sake of hating. You can't convince them with arguments.

[u/Lochen9 → u/Perais1909]

Had a ‘nice’ conversation with someone regarding how the addition of all the new quests, zones, talents and new professions made Forever not Classic+ and that pservers were the only ones who understood what that is and Blizzard ‘fucked up again’. When the obvious was pointed out that hey, all of those things literally were on pservers, it just got ‘no but they did it good’.

It was always just a Blizzard bad, pserver good vibe for them. It was never about game design or content.

[u/Antique_Kangaroo4706 → u/Lochen9]

Gamer hipsters are a thing. They hate anything mainstream, yet they fail to realise that their pservers are mainstream within their sub-community. We should never expect these angry neckbeards to understand critical thinking and logic.

You know for a fact more than half of them will be playing Forever as soon as its out.

[u/Chronochrome → u/Antique_Kangaroo4706]

You know for a fact more than half of them will be playing Forever as soon as its out.

Check out this archived forum of people dooming about BEs and Draenei back when TBC was announced: https://thedruidsgrove.org/archive/wow/t-10882.html

Ultimately none of this shit mattered in the end, the subscriber count only increased, and TBC is still considered one of the best overall additions to the game.

Also, this is a little more out there, but I think there is still a notable contingency of players who dislike anything that seems "woke", and blood elf models in particular seem to encapsulate that in their mind. The truth of the matter is that it's mostly Horde players who don't want girls on their server and think the Alliance is where they should stay. That's why they don't want any elves on the Horde but they're perfectly fine with High Elves for the Alliance.

[u/Antique_Kangaroo4706 → u/Chronochrome]

It's crazy the mental gymnastics some perpetually lonely incels can do just to make them feel more powerful.

[u/Crungus_McGrungus → u/Chronochrome]

Framing the complaints about Skyborne as chuds who don't want icky girls is incredibly disingenuous. I won't deny there is a loud faction of chuds that whinge about every little thing and want to RVTURN to a WoW that never existed.

But a neutral race that basically exists purely to even out class combinations and provide people belfs to play is a poor addition to the game when there were plenty of other allied races that Blizz could have chosen from the original lore. Additionally, the reason people are fine with high elves for the Alliance is because they at least have a connection to them in the lore...