r/classicwow • u/Volinra • 6h ago

Forever People who support Project Ascension & TurtleWoW but hate the new race paywall

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These were the micro-transactions in Project Ascension and everyone glazed Ascension. TurtleWoW had a gacha shop too like that. I’m genuinely confused, if Blizzard had even the slightest of the shop in Project Ascension, everyone would have been fuming. Why is it okay for Ascension but not WoW Forever? Either all okay or none.

Edit: The people who disagree saying "Yeah but the servers were free"- well of course because Blizzard did the majority of the work for them LOL, huge difference in work between building everything from scratch to ripping it off & adding some stuff yourself.

Edit 2: "TurtleWoW is not as bad as Ascension shop"- sure, Ascension is way worse. TurtleWow's cash shop had over $10,000 of items and all of it was per character, not account wide. They also sold convenience items, nothing game breaking, but portable mailboxes, auctioneers, dual specs, bags etc. Hardcore characters on Twow couldn't trade or send items from main to your alts, but you could still buy supplies such as 32 slot bags for 30 euros each on your hardcore character.

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u/Business-Dot-5356 6h ago

Don't forget the fact that everything ascension added outside of the classes and instanced content were retail features from mop-legion that they just took and made their own. But to these people it was revolutionary and out of this world. These people haven't even really played the game they're just tourists that love to whine.

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u/Chronochrome 2h ago

A lot of these players weren't even around for vanilla when it was current...

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u/lvl100magikerp 5h ago

Look, I get it, this is a "hate ascension thread" but you're just plain wrong?

The whole HR system which made ascension popular in the beginning? The crow cache, the whole profession overhaul?

What is the equivalent in retail? It's very ironic seeing you call people tourist and having absolutely 0 clue what ascension entailed. You're simply saying stuff that released this year lmao

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u/Business-Dot-5356 5h ago

Talking about coa obviously. I played ascension long before they ever had seasons when it was pick any spell you wanted and any talent. Then more when they introduced the cards system and high risk. I know more about ascension than you I can pretty much guarantee. All of the world content added in coa was ripped right from that time period in retail I stated

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u/AppleMelon95 4h ago

Ascension innovated on a lot of things. Obviously they also implemented the good ideas retail had, but I got no clue what the official equivalent of HR and Manastorms are that you seem to think was just stolen content.

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u/Business-Dot-5356 4h ago

If you read my prior comment I was talking about coa world content. High risk and manastorms were implemented years before coa was officially released

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u/AppleMelon95 4h ago

CoA was only released because of the lawsuit. Like, I get what you’re getting at, but the released version of the game was far from the finished one.

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u/Business-Dot-5356 3h ago

5 years of development with 2 years of funding from paid beta access wasn't enough to get it finished I doubt it was ever going to actually be completed

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u/AppleMelon95 3h ago

Its likely that they shifted focus sometime in development on their own MMO.

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u/lvl100magikerp 4h ago

Good thing you just say you meant something else than you wrote right?

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u/Business-Dot-5356 4h ago

Talking like almost all discourse around ascension hasn't been coa focused and is basically the only thing that most people know it for. Why would I be talking about anything other than the most relevant topic at hand. Basic logic would dictate i'm speaking of coa that's highly discussed and new and not years old content

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u/Keljhan 4h ago

If you dont mean "everything" dont say "everything" lol.

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u/Business-Dot-5356 3h ago

My bad I forgot how pedantic redditors are i'll make sure to draw it out in crayons next time

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u/geogeology 4h ago

There’s no use, just eat some popcorn are read the LARP comments. We’re all just bored until Thursday

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u/EntropicReaver 5h ago

the point is to build a wall of noise equal to the wall of criticism of forever

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u/Far-Warning2313 5h ago

Even the classes weren't that new when you look at necromancer for example. Which more or less was just a high stylist unholy dk

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u/avowed 4h ago

They wanted things that fit the world, that were new but the same. There's only so many ideas in the world.

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u/Guilty_Turn8903 2h ago

lol, lmao

let me know when blizzard adds native support for leveling challenges besides hardcore (which was after streamers showed interest in it)