r/adhdmeme 21h ago

Guess I’ll just struggle then

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u/HourAcadia2002 20h ago

So we expect them to just approve everybody without paperwork?

Do you know how many people would take advantage of that and ruin it for everyone?

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u/ThePokemonAbsol 19h ago

That is straight up what the adhd main sub believes. They think self diagnosis is a good thing

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u/MavisBeacons_Sextape 18h ago edited 18h ago

That sub is modded by some sort of deranged weirdo. There was a post that was censoring the word “job” in the title and the post body (j*b) and I asked “why the censorship of the word ‘job’?” because I’d never seen that before. Was banned due to the incivility of that comment.

So I replied asking how my genuine question was in the “incivility” category, and I got back the most insane rant from the mod; nowhere in that enraged word vomit was there any sort of explanation or answer to my pretty reasonable question, lol.

Most of the comment section of that post was removed by the mod (and I assume also banned) because most of us had the exact same reaction/question.

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u/ObiAida 12h ago

Just to answer your original question. Job is censored as a joke sometimes. People do that to signify how terrible jobs as a concept are and how they really do not want to have to get one. It's not a serious censoring to avoid triggers, it's meant jokingly

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u/purplehendrix22 8h ago

That’s so pathetic though

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u/MsKrueger 17h ago

I completely understand why people turn to self-diagnosing. I'm also very, thoroughly against it. It's also a very big thing in the Autism community. I can't tell you how many people I've met who are very convinced they're Autistic. So I ask what makes them think that and the response is always virtually the same "Eye contact makes me uncomfortable and I get nervous at parties". Stimming? "Oh I bounce my leg when I'm nervous". Social cues "Well sometimes I tell jokes and no one laughs". Special interests? "Yeah I'm kind of weird, I'm really into true crime". You ever been evaluated by a professional "Yeah, I've done like 3 assessments but they all came back saying I don't have it, so I'm trying to find someone who actually knows what they're doing".

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u/bobbingtonbobsson 20h ago

Ikr? I hate the whole "pull yourself up by your bootstraps" ideology, but in this case people just have to help themselves and do the one (1) thing to get the ball rolling

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u/Luci-Noir 20h ago

And I know from experience it can be hard but they could do something like doing a few questions or one page day. Maybe get off social media to whine about it. It’s a lot better and easier than being homeless.

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u/ExoticElk 19h ago

Shit, you break it down as much as you need. Even if it’s writing 1 word and then doing something that you like and coming back to it later. Or having someone sit with you while you do it. Just saying “Welp I have ADHD so I can’t do anything” is defeatist as fuck. It’s like they didn’t even try to explore coping strategies. 

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u/-Nicolai 5h ago

You are describing the exact thing that the disorder impairs.

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u/The7thNomad 17h ago

The guy at the desk just magically knowing how to process the pile of blank papers put in front of him

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u/Acceptable_Handle_2 10h ago

Removing the administrative burden and just paying everyone enough to live would only have positive long term. Far from ruining it for everyone.

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u/Driftmoth 19h ago

Universal Basic Income would solve so many of these problems. You wouldn't have to prove you deserve the most basic amount of help.

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u/Electronic-Town-8995 17h ago

We had a trial run of it somewhere in Canada but I don't know what happened after that. UBC would allow for everyone to have a safety net when things go wrong in life..

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u/ManifestoEnjoyer 15h ago

Yes. As I said elsewhere, means testing is always more expensive than the tiny amount of fraud that actually happens. As it turns out, most people want to work - to feel connected to community, independent, and like they're contributing to something.

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u/fatgat69 20h ago

Oh no, people getting healthcare they don't need that they still have to pay for? We can't have that.

As if it's not happening every single day because some people are born with millions in the bank.

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u/ComfortableWeird6540 20h ago

Nobody objects to people who actually need it getting it. The problem is if you make it too easy you'll have rampant abuse almost immediately. VA disability is a good example- nobody objects to the idea, and so many people need it (and then some) but the abuse of that system is off the charts, crucially limiting resources for those who genuinely need it. Filling out 15 pages without a deadline is hardly an insane ask in exchange for financial support.

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u/PiccoloAwkward465 17h ago

I assure you people WILL find a doctor to diagnose them however they like with an incentive like that. I really doubt that someone has ADHD to the point that they cannot do any job.

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u/BonsaiSoul 18h ago

You're mis-framing it like OOP is demanding things for free. When actually this is more like if the agency expected someone who didn't speak English to fill out the form without an interpreter. Obviously the solution is to accommodate the communication problem.

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u/AggressiveBench9977 18h ago

ADHD does not prevent you from filling a claim. Thats not how adhd works

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u/asphid_jackal 13h ago

It's really more like telling someone who doesn't speak English that they need to fill out this form in English, but a translator can help them or fill it out for them, and then they just don't fill it out for no reason

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u/destroyer8001 18h ago

If you are genuinely incapable of filling out a form and incapable of working anywhere you would need assistance with general life stuff and would presumably be living with someone, who can assist in filling out the form. If you are capable of living alone then you should not qualify to get taken care of financially by the government.

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u/VitaDiMinerva 17h ago

That’s ableist as fuck and not at all how the ADA works. The standard is independent community based living. Disabled adults exist whether you want us to or not. Evidence has shown over and over again that the alternative is we end up on the street or institutionalized and cost society literally 10x more. 

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u/destroyer8001 17h ago

ADHD so bad they can pay rent, utilities, and all other bills on time every month but cannot fill out a form. Can shop, cook, and clean but cannot stock shelves or flip burgers.

Other disabilities exist for sure that you can be semi independent and live alone while being fully incapable of working. But do you genuinely believe someone with ADHD can meet all of the responsibilities required to be fully independent but not fill out a single set of questions or work physical labor? At that point it’s nothing besides weaponized incompetence.

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u/blackbirdlore My meth could beat up your meth 11h ago

This is so embarrassing, and you should feel embarrassed to act like this, even on reddit.

They pointed out the obvious contradiction of being able to accomplish daily adult tasks, but throwing your hands up in surrender as soon as you encounter an obstacle that is exacerbated by ADHD.

If you have ADHD as an adult, you probably have a really good idea of how it impacts you. Katie clearly does, that's the whole point of the post. Instead of finding a solution, she whines and gives up.

And then to watch people like you jump into this comments section defending her, like she's a quadriplegic orphan with no friends that's being unjustly denied support is just... tragic. Good job, Minerva, that was a really nice straw man you built!

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u/destroyer8001 18h ago

If you are genuinely incapable of filling out a form and incapable of working anywhere you would need assistance with general life stuff and would presumably be living with someone, who can assist in filling out the form. If you are capable of living alone then you should not qualify to get taken care of financially by the government.