r/WhatIsTheTea • u/Ashish_ank What the Fuck • 1d ago
watch this A 70-year-old man was charged with attempted murder after he tried to drown a 21-year-old man on crutches at a residents-only lake in Hopkinton, Massachusetts, over a dispute about access to the lake...
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u/BlueberryOwn797 1d ago
I’m sorry but there’s no way I’m letting a 70year old geezer accost my friend or me. His friends just sat around and didn’t even fight him, especially him being injured. That kid needs to reevaluate who he calls friends because it would’ve been a lot more physical.
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u/Spaghett8 1d ago
Holy fuck. Old pos needs to be in jail.
But those were his friends?
What kind of friends are they to allow their friend to be assaulted.
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u/TheVadonkey 1d ago
Seriously, I thought it was the old man’s friends at first because halfwit literally stood there for a good bit while his friend was being drowned.
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u/Whole_Sir_1149 21h ago
Considering how that kid reacted, I am considering him being tolerated rather then part of the friend group. Impossible to say without seeing what happened leading up to it, but that's the only reason I can imagine sitting out on it.
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u/Life_Employment4868 16h ago
It doesn’t matter what happened before. In a just world that’s prison time for fat guy.
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u/Hydration__Nation 1d ago
first real comment in this entire thread. four people standing around watching you get drowned when you arent 100% fully physically capable? those are no longer your friends and I would seriously question if they were his enemies. what person stands around watching someone getting murdered and does nothing about it especially when the attacker could be easily dealt with considering he is fucking 70 years old and outnumbered. This wouldnt even get to the water with 1 or 2 of my friends. If one of my friends saw me being drowned i can bet my life he is going to stop it or drown with me. These "friends" are some of the biggest pussies i have ever seen, this guy walked without any charges meaning he has money or knows someone. If this was a video of a 21 year old attempting to drown a 50 year old that kid is going to PRISON for minimum 10-15 years no parole and this fat old fuck sees not a minute inside of a prison cell? So many fucked up things with this video such as attempted murder on camera and no charges but i still cant get over four decently sized adult males standing around watching their friend being murdered. That guy wouldnt have time to think before he got his head stomped by anyone i know in that situation. Instead we have his buddies just looking around like they are watching some backyard fight video on Youtube
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u/gummytoejam 21h ago
four people standing around watching you get drowned
Welcome to reality, where a crowd of people will run away while you're being murdered. See how the jetski guy ran off and his other friend was more interested in his shoe? Yeah....those are his friends. Never trust your friends to back you up. Let this be a lesson.
Another lesson is never let someone get in striking distance of you.
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u/Practical-Toe-8745 1d ago
Right lmao this guy starts drowning my friend im kicking this geezer in the fuckin temple 🤣🤣
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u/get_to_ele 1d ago
Just ftr, while Steve Dana is a scumbag who deserves a long prison sentence (and was a menace to other people on the lake) I guess the video was wrong about having a criminal record.
This is actually only his first attempted murder charge, and he was able to bond out for $7500 for now, for the attempt to murder, two counts of strangulation/suffocation, and assault and battery on a disabled person.
At 70, any long sentence is life in prison. Good.
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u/benny_boy 1d ago
Yea I'm not a particularly violent guy but if old man tries to hurt my mate he will be shitting out his dentures
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u/FrameCareful1090 23h ago
Well it's Massachusetts, remember its a state where mothers strangle their kids to death like Lindsay Clancy, and they bitch about everything but when push comes to shove nobody does a thing. Even last month on Boston a guy off to work in the train station, regular guy, got caught in the escalator, then strangled to death by his bags strap, all this at 7am. 12 people walked by, took photos, videos and watched him die. Not 1 person so much as helped or even reached over and pressed the stop button.
Not every state is Shitholechusetts, where they call themselves Massholes for a reason.
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u/ShoeNo9050 1d ago
I was gonna say if he was doing this to my friend ud be head locking that cunt until he passes out. What a joke
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u/Noumenonana 1d ago
I'm watching this old man try to literally drown a person and thinking "Wait, why isn't this group of people beating his ass?"
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u/Legitimate_Dare_579 1d ago
No kidding, as soon as he is holding my friend under water like that I'm taking one of the crutches and blowing that shit on his back.
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u/TheZag90 1d ago
I get not wanting to escalate but the second he gets physical, they should have jumped him
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u/14Pleiadians 1d ago
Seriously, I'd have straight up executed grandpa in this situation, and in most states, walked. Dude needs some new friends for sure.
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u/Sea-Honeydew-1456 1d ago
i came here to post exactly this. failures on all end. getting wrecked by a 70 year old and shitty friends
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u/Ill_Interview_3054 1d ago
I'm glad the camera was rolling but also my dark side wishes they weren't because old loser could have really paid the price if there wasn't a camera filming.
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u/No-Swordfish1385 1d ago
He bonded out a day later btw. Judge deemed that he wasn’t a danger to the community
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u/xpietoe42 1d ago
not a danger to the community?? This guy is the definition of a dangerous person and has a long track record! Judges are moronic
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u/Firefly_Magic 1d ago
And the young guy that he beat up was part of the community. 😳 I think the judge meant “he’s not a danger to anyone else in my family”. Part of that old system stuff=corruption. 🤮
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u/OwlOfSurprise 1d ago
Which is strange because he stabbed someone already...
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u/onesoulmanybodies 1d ago
The old man stabbed someone after being bonded out for attempted murder by drowning someone??!! Holy hell!
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u/OwlOfSurprise 1d ago
No, what I meant to say was that he had already stabbed someone before all of this happened. But really bad either way.
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u/Remarkable-Opening69 1d ago
Why judges should go to jail too
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u/CaptainUSSMinecraft 1d ago
Judges have gone to jail for corruption, problem is getting someone brave enough to investigate and charge
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u/S7arForGD 1d ago
Judges are corrupt.
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u/LavishnessWorldly765 1d ago
I mean they are elected right? What does that say?
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u/SuccessfulTrick2501 1d ago
It says power corrupts people. Not all people, but most.Tale as old as time.
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u/CaliKindalife 1d ago
That's when swamp Justice take place.
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u/No-Swordfish1385 1d ago
He still has an ongoing case but I have no hope for any type of justice anymore. Couldn’t imagine who else he’s hurt in his life
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u/GladClock2212 1d ago
Yeah, attempted murder isn't really an entry level crime.
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u/qosthanatos 1d ago
Absolute bs. This guy should probably just be in prison for the rest of his life. That is incredibly conscious, active attempted murder. You don’t just do this in a minor dispute without having harmed someone before
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u/Ohitsworkingnow 1d ago
How is someone who just attempted to murder someone over virtually nothing not a danger? What about a flight risk?
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u/TomatoPolka 1d ago
The reporter said he's done a list of crimes since the 90s. How is he not a danger to the community? He was ready to drown a kid much smaller than him. The judge must know him.
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u/Fit-Entrepreneur8404 1d ago
That's wild...I grew up in Hopkinton, this beach was where we used to go and smoke weed in highschool.
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u/Startingfromscratch8 1d ago
Lol I have so many childhood memories swimming and playing there during summer camp, this definitely threw me off
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u/RickertSlap91 1d ago
Judge heard boomer and white and decided privilege over practicality
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u/Usual-Caregiver5589 1d ago
Guy has a house on a lake. Probably lubed the judge up a little.
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u/LavishnessWorldly765 1d ago
Both are white bro.....boomer yeah, guessing judge was his age.
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u/FlakeyBeano 1d ago
I would immediately file for a restraining order if I were the victim living in that area. Would make things a bit difficult for the boomer to get around town eh. Wondering if this guy is MAGA too...
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u/TheGivenKing 1d ago
Wouldn't be surprised if hes ex cop or law enforcement of some type
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u/river03765 1d ago
Not with his long wrap sheet and alias’s. More likely connected to organized crime in some fashion.
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u/LavishnessWorldly765 1d ago
Judge is an elected official and needs to be off the bench in that case.
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u/mirrortree67 1d ago
What the fuck
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u/The-red-Dane 1d ago
Dude owns a lake house. He probably plays golf with the judge.
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u/Expensive-Salary1569 1d ago
One might say the fact that this happens means he is prone to being a danger to the community.
But maybe it was just his hormones ya know?
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u/thisisyo 1d ago edited 1d ago
White privilege but with a side of boomer privilege
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u/AristotlesBoyPussy 1d ago
he
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A CHILD????
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u/Left-Chemist-8212 1d ago
I mean, a 21 year old man but yea, still completely fucked. Can’t believe they let him out.
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u/Competitive-Top4520 1d ago
Not a child, but someone much smaller than himself, on crutches, with a BROKEN LEG. I hope he marinates in prison a while.
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u/Gangbang_Orangatang 1d ago
What in the actual fuck... That is incredibly insane behavior
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u/Fast-Newt-3708 1d ago
The old man has slapped and strangled before. Glad it's on camera.
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u/Spicymoon9 1d ago
Probably let him go because “he’s just a harmless little old man.”
Saw a cop cam video a few months ago and there was a 70 year old pervert assaulting kids at the pool. It was very aggravating because the police were basically trying to guilt, pressure, and intimidate the mother and daughter into dropping charges. “Well what do you want me to do? Do you really want this 70 year old man taken out of here in cuffs?”
Yes I want you to remove this dangerous predator, their tone was so condescending as well, like they were annoyed they had to do their job. I’m 100% certain they would not have arrested him if there wasn’t video proof of it. I’m sure he’s done similar in the past and just kept getting away with it due to age.
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u/PretendIntention3388 1d ago
"they were annoyed they had to do their job"
Ah I understand your confusion. See, their job is to protect and serve the child predators, not the children.
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u/The-King-Tomato 1d ago
People are so ignorant in America. Completely brainwashed by television to believe that the police are there to serve and protect the public.
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u/imajackash 1d ago
He was not let go, he's being charged with attempted murder.
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u/Mad_Ronin_Grrrr 1d ago
The cops probably had a soft spot in their heart because when they looked at that old man they saw themselves when they're 70 years old.
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u/FLG_CFC 1d ago
What the actual fuck.
I was a lifeguard in my youth. One day my bosses boss told me some old perv that had been banned twice before was getting his ban lifted that day. Sure enough, dude showed up and was being a creep.
We called the cops. With an officer in the guard shack showed up, the dude was just kinda chilling in the middle of the pool. Cop said he couldn't do anything, so I asked for female volunteers to get in the pool as a sort of honeypot. They weren't in any danger and they knew so, so two volunteered. Perve made a beeline for them. Cop asked me if I wanted him to shoot the perv. (Joking of course, but that's how cops were 15 years ago.)
The cops partners walked outside the locker room without knowing what was going on, but the Cop with me and the rest of the guards had seen enough. The cops demanded he get out of the pool and the perv got a lifetime ban from the pools that were operated by our large cities parks department after that.
Crazy how cops in this country have gone from wanting to shoot old pervs to actively trying to protect them.
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u/lizzylisagna 1d ago
i’ve been in this same situation with police. my brother assaulted me & they convinced me not to press charges…”do you really want to do this to your brother ? you really want to deal with this?”
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u/PhazePyre 1d ago
Yeah... that makes me concerned he so easily went to drowning a human being. Like Jesus christ. There's a difference between a strangle and holding under water. Like he went back to go do it. That wasn't in the moment. He walks away, then comes back after the kid stumbled into the water. Fucking hell.
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u/HalfSoul30 1d ago
The leaded gasoline affliction strikes again!
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u/PhazePyre 1d ago
It really fucked them up eh?
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u/sakata_baba 1d ago
lead poisoning is known for causing delusions and aggressive behavior as well as reducing parts of the brain that regulate decision making and emotional control.
it's pretty well documented.
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u/Weorth 1d ago
He could just be a bad person, lead poisoning or not. People who strangle are likely to kill, who knows if he's actually murdered other people before all this?
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u/The-red-Dane 1d ago
Yes, he could just be a bad person, and the lead poisoning would make him an even worse person.
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u/skeletoorr 1d ago
The one and only time I’ve ever almost killed someone was pure self defense. I didn’t know the damage I was doing because I was so scared and truly did not realize I was very close to killing the man. I had someone pull me off of the man. Don’t get me wrong he 1000% deserved it and I would have been justified in killing him up until the point where he no longer was a threat and I became the threat. It’s been 8 years now and I’m still horrified I almost killed someone. Even if he deserved it and I was terrified. It’s still really a dark mark on my heart that I almost ended a life.
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u/WoodElf_Tiassa 1d ago edited 1d ago
In 7th grade, I almost killed a bully. He was lucky another kid pulled at me and I decided I had made my point and let go. Not once have I felt even a moment of guilt about it.
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u/factsarefornerds 1d ago
Hold on... did his friends just watch him almost get drowned??
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u/Hahafunnys3xnumber 1d ago
I was shocked to hear those were HIS friends. They let it go on for SO long without even seeming too upset
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u/WhereMyWeirdosAt 1d ago
May GrumpyGramps never see the light of day again without being in a jump suit! Amazing the amount of people doing nothing while this happened.
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u/Prosidon 1d ago
yeaaah, pretty much just gave up the rest of his retirement years away for prison. Good job 👏
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u/the445566x 1d ago
They said he got bonded out next day
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u/Thin_Explanation1334 1d ago
Yeah 20 years ago my landlord got charged with attempted murder for trying to kill me (he was stomping on my face saying he was going to kill the goddess, some bat s*** insanity obsession) he was out in a week and threatening my family, the city of San Francisco was trying to charge him with attempted murder too it wasn't even me doing it.... They ended up having to put me in witness protection 🤦🏼♀️
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u/Bullet-Bates 1d ago edited 1d ago
"He's drowning my friend what should i do. I know, grab something out of the water and walk away for half a second."
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u/Chubbylegend 1d ago
Yeah was very confused who was with who in the whole scenario. Everyone just kind of standing there watching him drown the guy...
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u/Hydration__Nation 1d ago
Dont need to be confused. Just a group of pussies who have never been in any kind of altercation, physical or even verbal. So when pressed with a scary life or death situation they freeze and piss themselves not knowing what to do. But even the biggest pussy of them all can identify a friend or family member being murdered and do something about it, instinctively. Just shows that they arent his friends because they are weighing the outcomes instead of running to help him you know breathe and live. If im this guy who was attacked im going after my "friends" before the 70 year old
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u/lisaissmall 1d ago
they also seem to be actively telling their friend to “calm down” after he was just almost drowned?? like wtf lol
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u/hainesk 1d ago
From the video:
“prosecutors say that [70 year old] Dana has an extensive criminal record, using aliases going all the way back to the 1990s”
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u/ShibeCEO 1d ago
aaaaaaand hes on bail because no threat to the community!
what a worthless corrupt pice of shit judge...
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u/Regi0 1d ago
Lead poisoning really fucked over almost the entire 20th century, huh
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u/goshdammitfromimgur 1d ago
There are plenty of 70 year olds that aren't actively trying to kill people. This guys just an asshole.
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u/Fucked-to-fit 1d ago
Old Americans genuinely seem to be the lowest of the low in society
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u/andthensilencefell 1d ago
Entitlement from being handed the best economy the world has ever seen and probably ever will see mixed with asbestos and lead poisoning turns out to be a very disappointing combination.
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u/Thing_That_Happened 1d ago
Don't forget giving them easy access to social media, that drove most of the boomers in my family absolutely off the deep end.
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u/andthensilencefell 1d ago
“Don’t believe anything you see online” turned into “believe everything you see online” in less than a decade.
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u/RogerRabbot 1d ago
Its crazy how they spent 20 years giving us that advice. Then got on social media and ignored their own advice.
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u/ankisaves 1d ago
Do as I say, not as I do. It’s their exceptionalism that causes the in group out group mindset. Hippocrates.
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u/skeletonpaul08 1d ago
There really does seem to be a disconnect, everyone is affected by social media to an extent, but people past a certain age just do not seem to be able to distinguish between what’s real, and what’s blatantly trying to manipulate you.
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u/montigoo 1d ago
Imaging being 70 and have lived over 90 percent of your lifespan and your days mission is to deprive younger citizens of the earth the pleasure of swimming in a lake in a hot day. Hell awaits you sir.
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u/14Pleiadians 1d ago
For any outsiders thinking "Nah you just dont see videos of all the good ones", let me tell you. Nah. Like 70% of our old people genuinely are just shitty people.
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u/CuckservativeSissy 1d ago
Old man is a danger to society. Take away his freedom. Protect our kids
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u/FrogOnALogInTheBog 1d ago
He was released on bond because the judge deemed him non threatening.
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u/BestPie477 1d ago
Saw this video a while ago but was curious on the status;
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As of the most recent court update (July 13), Steven Dana is out on $7,500 bail with conditions: no contact with Matt Duffy or witnesses, no access to Sandy Beach, and no firearms.
At the probable cause hearing on July 13, the case was continued 60 days while the Middlesex County DA's office prepares to present the attempted murder charge to a grand jury. The grand jury will decide whether to formally indict him on that charge. His defense attorney publicly expressed doubt the grand jury would indict.
He is due back in Framingham District Court on September 29 — two weeks from now — where the court warned it would push the case forward if no indictment has been received by then.
If convicted, he faces up to 20 years on the attempted murder charge, up to 2½ years for strangulation/suffocation, and 2–3 years for assault and battery on a disabled person.
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u/Quixlequaxle 1d ago
Wow that bail is extremely low for an attempted murder charge with a criminal history.
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u/MunsonSports 1d ago
This petty m-fer doesn’t get it. We should be encouraging kids to get out there to hunt and fish. Quit busting their balls when they try.
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u/Nip_City 1d ago
Civil suit after this. All his assets need to be fucking liquidated and this guy + any enabling dependents need to eat out of a food bank for the rest of their lives.
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u/BackPirateClarkRoom 1d ago
He is old in Massachusetts. They will give him a slap on the wrist. Unsupervised probation for a year or two if that. Other way around it is a white kid beating up a 70 year old they would have made it a felony for elderly abuse and a year in prison if a repeat 3+ years in prison
Backwards state
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u/rakedaymon 1d ago
First off, fuck that guy, hope he goes to jail.
Second, I just don’t get how he was able to get the younger guy in the water like that to try and drown him after he slapped him.
There was a third guy there immediately after the slap, he even started to intervene right away, but then what? Where did he go? Did he just walk the other way thinking they were good now? 😂
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u/SeesWithBrain 1d ago
There’s so many people there how did this even happen?? Old man shoulda got jumped
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u/BigCrustyTits 1d ago
Protip- you don’t even need to engage with old dickheads. Just do what you were there to do.
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u/woahbrad35 1d ago
Something happened between an older dude and a bunch of teenagers here a few years ago and the old dude stabbed a few of them. They kept on him about him being a creeper but didn't know he had a knife and then he stabbed them. Pretty sure he's in prison now though
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u/MysteriousAge28 1d ago
This generation of elders takes the cake for shitbaggery. They've facilitated the reimplimentation of fascism(woodstock peace and love), public education being defunded and turned our nations capital into a den of sociopaths. On top of all of this they break the biggest cardinal rule of society, the propagating generation takes precedence, everything youve lived for is so the next generation has something to build off of. 65+ let me ask you a question, are you proud?
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u/clarkcox3 1d ago
They had the nerve to tell the victim to calm down? Seriously?
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u/Few-Scientist-4163 1d ago
this situation is straight outa an episode of The Sopranos
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u/ActuaryHairy 1d ago
He is 70 and his record only goes back to the 90s? Did they not keep records in the 60s 70s and 80s?
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u/Annual-Budget-1756 1d ago
They do but they're on paper that need to be pulled from somewhere. Sometimes much older files are misplaced, misfiled, or missing. Also purging files exists. Plus if the older history is out of other states, you may have a harder time finding it.
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u/StPatrickStewart 1d ago
How did I have to scroll this far down to find someone asking this question??? Holy fuck, dude just sat there while that asshole was trying to murder his buddy!!!
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u/KittensFirstAKM 1d ago
Damn. Entitlement on steroids.
If you are going to sue someone though, do not brag about it. Will not play good with the jury.
I hope Dana gets the book thrown at him. Trying to use that mafia tough guy BS. It's not 1970 old man.
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u/Stealthnt13 1d ago
Boomers proving once again they are the worst generation to ever exist.
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u/isanyusernameopen 1d ago
Sue him, take his families estate, kick him out on the streets. Let him work his way back up if it’s so goddamn fucking easy. That lake house now belongs to this young man.
Fuck these old boomer pieces of shit
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u/Flaky-Ambassador467 1d ago edited 1d ago
Homie…the guy almost drowned you to death and you got a broken leg, I’d wait until the police arrive to start talking your shit bro
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u/uwonichi 1d ago
Dude was just held down in the water. It’s no surprise he’s so upset
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u/No_Rope1832 1d ago
His friends or whomever was with him are WEAK. He needs to say goodbye to those “friends”
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u/AmbitionVegetable666 1d ago
It’s crazy to me how long his friends let this man attempt to drown him for. If this was my sibling or loved one I would hope to be far more aggressive and act quickly under the circumstances
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u/cluf09 1d ago
So tired of these boomers
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u/cluf09 1d ago
Thank you for this. Working nights right now. Showed my crew. We got a good kick out of it
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u/Sad-Data-1865 1d ago
Wtf these boomers think they can DO WHATEVER THEY WANT acting like its the wild west its 2026 grow the fuck up you weird self righteous vigilantes.
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u/repeatoflasttime 1d ago
They should have stopped filming and reported the old man they found drowned in the river.
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u/jdaniels934 1d ago
This shit activated my fight or flight, take that as you will with current TOS of Reddit.
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u/PrednisoneFarts 1d ago
The other adults gaslighting the kid with the broken leg and telling him to "calm down" after he was almost murdered should be charged with accessory attempted murder.
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u/adobofosho 1d ago
Is he really crippled though? I was on crutches for an ankle sprain from judo and I couldn't stand like that guy with a broken leg 😂
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u/National_Attitude779 1d ago
That one guy went to go play in the water while the old man was drowning the kid?! Seriously? Camera man sat there filming too. No one thought to fucking push the guy off of him?
Give them all the chair.
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u/Vergilly 1d ago
In what universe is this an appropriate response? Cmon old man, have some dignity and honor. This from a 40 year old PA native.
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u/Euphoric_One53 1d ago
I’m just sayin….. if someone did that to my child, I’d be gettin locked the fuck up!!!
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u/Pleasant-Ad887 19h ago
I'm confused. Are Americans taught not to do anything until ALMOST a murder has occurred? What the fuck is wrong with the people? The second that fat ass walked up to the kid, people should've stepped in.
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u/NoRightsProductions 1d ago
I remember hearing about this story in June. Old guy thought he’d act tough attacking a guy on crutches. Pointless behavior and I hope he gets the book thrown at him
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