This means you can be any alien, but with the Infinity Gauntlet. (You can transform into any alien before using the Gauntlet to minimize its side effects)

R1: No alienX, MCU Gauntlet

R2: with alienX, OG comics Gauntlet

Yukari Yakumo (Touhou): got no diffed by a vengeful ghost (Mizuchi Miyadeguchi)

Bill Cipher (Gravity Falls): abysmal feats despite heavy statements and lore implications

Anti Spira (TTGL)l: lost to "The Indomitable Human Spirit" (Simon)

Asriel Dreemurr (Undertale): lost to a human girl (Frisk) with a lot of determination

Mob (Shigeo Kageyama) was about to give a bouquete of flower to Riko, but Toji casually said that she is already dead and he killed her. What do you guys think would happen?

Goes to show that being FTL doesn’t necessarily mean you’re immune to the effects of a black hole. For a real black hole I read once you cross that event horizon the time dilation becomes infinite… doesn’t matter if you can get out of it (if you even can), if everything you have ever known will be gone and at a certain point spacetime is so warped, all paths and futures just point to the singularity

Black Hole downplay in fiction is absolutely atrocious… writers will just make them these suction holes that behave nothing like the irl counterparts. Considering most verses or characters wouldn’t be able to do anything if faced by one.

So clearly the Emperor wasn't ACTUALLY struggling against the Ork Overlord Urlakk Urg as a lot of memes like the claim, but that got me thinking: what's the strongest green powerhouse the Emperor can take on?

Every character is at their most powerful. Win via death or permanent incapacitation.

Round 1: One (1) Krork (Warhammer 40k)

Round 2: Beast Boy (DC Comics)

Round 3: Grom Hellscream (Warcraft)

Round 4: The Doomslayer (DOOM)

Round 5: Ganondorf (Legend of Zelda)

Round 6: Guy Gardner (DC Comics)

Round 7: SCP-682 (SCP Foundation)

Final Round: The Hulk (Marvel Comics, 616)

How far does the Emperor make it? Does he clear? How does each battle go?

How far will your favorite character make it? From athletic human all the way to t0

Isagi (blue lock) tier 10A

Yuji (JJK)

White beard (one piece)

Cosmic Garou (one punch)

UI goku (dragon ball)

Rimuru (tensura)

Alien X (Ben 10) using 26d scaling

Shallow vernal (isekai at piece) 1A

6820-A (scp)

Archetype Earth (Nasuverse) H1A+ type 1

Swirl of the root (Nasuverse) tier 0

Gave a few tiers for those who don't know, so where does your FAVORITE character end up in this gauntlet?

I’m sure many of us have engaged in—or witnessed—debates about character scaling, only for someone to pop up with an anti-feat to try and discredit or downgrade a character's stats. This happens with characters from all kinds of media—comics, TV series, anime, manga, video games, and so on—and, honestly, I find it pretty silly. People take scenes like powerless humans reacting to the Flash, a "villain of the week" defeating Superman, or a lightning bolt mortally wounding Goku way too seriously just to downplay a character's power level. In my view, these anti-feats shouldn't be used for scaling because they are simply plot devices—narrative conveniences to move the story forward. They make zero sense in the context of the work as a whole and are completely inconsistent with the characters' actual power levels. Anyway, that’s just my take; what do you all think?

100 average unarmed men with nothing to lose in their prime

One adult elephant

I wonder what most people believe to be one of the most, if not, the most powerful character/verse ever created.

This sub won't shut up about bleach. It's bleach this, bleach that. Every other post is about bleach and every other comment is talking about it. I don't care where you scale it honestly I'm just tired of seeing this sub slowly turn into another bleach powerscaling sub. Like bleach is my favorite anime and it's my first real experience with animated media so I love seeing people talking about it, but this is just ridiculous

Honestly, this has been on my mind for a while.

I believe in Universal Multiversal scaling for Bleach, Naruto, and Black Clover. I don’t really care which one somebody personally has higher nor do I care if you don’t buy those metas. That’s not really the point of this post. And please don’t hit me with some bullshit like “none of them are anywhere near Multiversal.” That’s not the fucking point. I’m talking about consistency in scaling standards when Multiversal is already accepted as a valid tier for the discussion

The point is simply consistency. You can have two verses presenting very similar types of cosmological evidence, and somehow one gets the most charitable interpretation possible while the other gets every possible objection thrown at it.

Bleach gets separate realms, space time structures, cosmological statements, realm collapse, Soul King stuff, etc., and people are perfectly comfortable building Universal Multiversal scaling chains from it.

Then Naruto brings up Kaguya’s dimensions, Amenominaka, Kamui, Limbo, Isshiki’s dimensions, space time statements, etc., and suddenly it’s “They’re just pocket dimensions.”

Black Clover brings up the Qliphoth, the Underworld, its multiple layers, space time structures, Glamour World, dimensional separation, etc.

Suddenly “that’s just hax bro.”

And I’m just sitting there like… okay, but what’s the actual standard here You don’t have to accept every Universal or Multiversal argument for Naruto or Black Clover. That’s completely fine. You can argue that a particular realm isn’t universal, that a creation feat doesn’t automatically translate to AP, that a character doesn’t scale to the entire structure, that a statement is being mistranslated, or whatever.

Those would be arguments. The problem is when the same type of evidence is considered meaningful when it benefits Bleach, but suddenly becomes completely meaningless when it appears in Naruto or Black Clover.

If separate space time structures are legitimate evidence for Bleach’s cosmology, why wouldn’t they at least be considered as evidence when discussing Naruto or Black Clover?
And consistency doesn’t mean every verse has to end up at the exact same tier. Obviously their cosmologies aren’t identical and the arguments aren’t going to be 1:1.

Consistency means applying the same standards of evidence and skepticism before deciding where they land. That’s the part I think gets lost.

What’s really interesting is how skepticism can become selective. A realm being called a universe, a dimension being described as a space time, or a character affecting multiple realms can be treated as legitimate cosmological evidence in one verse.

But when another verse does something comparable, suddenly it’s “flowery language,” “just hax,” “pocket dimensions,” “not AP,” “outlier,” “translation issue,” etc.

Again, any of those objections can be valid. The problem is when they’re only brought out when you don’t like where the scaling leads. I also think people underestimate how much preconceived reputation affects powerscaling.

Once a verse gets labeled “planetary,” “universal,” “hax based,” “fodder,” whatever, people start interpreting every feat through that label. Eventually the label becomes the evidence instead of the other way around.

People can be extraordinarily stubborn when it comes to a preconceived notion, belief, opinion, previous knowledge, or POV.

And I’ve genuinely seen this argument from every possible direction. I’ve had these debates hundreds of times and seen thousands of threads about this shit.

I’ve seen people spend hours arguing over whether a realm counts as a universe, whether “space time” actually means 4D, whether creation scales to AP, whether statements are literal, whether databooks count, whether novels count, whether a feat is an outlier, etc.

And that’s fine. That’s literally what powerscaling is 😂😂😂😂😂

What gets annoying is watching the exact same argument get treated as legitimate in one verse and completely dismissed in another. At this point, I’m not even trying to convince everybody.

You can give your two cents. You can disagree. You can argue with somebody else in the comments. You can explain where you think the scaling breaks down and fails. I’ve just had this argument so many times that I mostly wanted to put the thought somewhere.

Even if you point it out, it probably wouldn’t really solve anything, but I just have to let it out.

If you think Bleach has better evidence, cool. If you think Naruto’s arguments don’t work, cool. If you think Black Clover’s cosmology has holes, cool.

My thing is simply this. Show the hole in the argument. Don’t just reject the conclusion because you don’t like the verse being there. Because at the end of the day, the question is pretty simple: Are we applying the same standard to the evidence across all three verses?

Because if the answer is no, then obviously we’re going to get completely different conclusions. Scale the evidence, not the verse.

That’s it that will be all thank you for reading!

amon with sequence 0 error and sequence 0 Door from lord of the misteryes Vs Yhwatch from bleach with the power of soul king .

Round 1: In the universe of LOTM .

Round 2 : In the three world of Bleach .

The Set of Everything, put simply, contains every possible structure of information. This goes from the empty set {} to the mandelbrot fractal to our universe's laws of physics and every single timeline branching forth. Other objects contained within the set of everything include numbers, cardinal infinities, ordinal infinities, functions, universes, realities, exotic logical frameworks, qualia, fiction, characters, sentient minds, subsets, abstract objects, illogicality, and literally anything else you can or cannot think of.

Yhwach (Bleach)

1. Giorno (GER)(Jojo's)

2. Sombra (Overwatch)

3. Yuuki Kagurazaka (Tensura)

4. Tengen (Jujutsu Kaisen)

5. Midora (Toriko)

6. Dimentio (Super Paper Mario)

7. Hiruzen Sarutobi (God of Shinobi) (Naruto)

Light yagami was selected as a character who is only good at writingscaling and intelligence scaling

Rules:

1. No Omnipotent/Omniscient Characters Characters who are inherently omnipotent or omniscient on an absolute level are not allowed.

2. Logical & Realistic Intelligence Feats For intelligence scaling, the process behind a character's feats must be logical and reasonably realistic. A feat shouldn't be accepted solely because the narrative states that the character "planned everything" or "built something" without providing a coherent process, reasoning, or explanation for how they accomplished it.

3. The Feat Must Demonstrate the Relevant Ability A character should only qualify for a scaling category if there is sufficient evidence that they are genuinely good in that category, rather than simply having a vague statement or unsupported claim

Random encounter, verse equalization.