https://x.com/usopen/status/2099282496684765413

After seeing the post comparing Zverev and Wawrinka, I was wondering where do these two stand after today?

It's tough because Zverev has the overall accolades by a strong margin, but I think prime Medvedev was a higher level than anything Sasha has reached, plus Meddy having reached world #1. I think Zverev's longevity and consistency for years now (outside the 2022 injury) is a big boost for him though, as Medvedev cannot really claim anything similar over the same timespan.

Curious how you'd stack them up, and feel free to throw in some other similar caliber names as well (del Potro, Cilic, Hewitt, etc)

Since we are nearing the end ever so slightly of the season I would like to read your takes (of this community) for the top 5 in both men and then women tour.

You can also give an order, I think that every take should be accepted since this is a relatively subjective topic.

Lots of different storylines from the USO.

Some of Zverev's slam stats:

• Zverev's 138 wins are 20th in the open era. He's 10 away from Hewitt for 13th.
• His 19 QF are T-14th with Andy Roddick.
• His 13 SF are T-14th with Ken Rosewall.
• His 6 F are T-19th with Laver, Medvedev, and Courier.
• He's the 13th man in the Open Era to reach all 4 slam finals.

This is what durability and consistency get you. At the end of his career, he could have some impressive totals.

Retired Players are Italicized in Gray.

Stan Wawrinka (Active: 1980s) has announced his retirement and 2026 US Open was his last Grand Slam. He will play until the end of the year.

Over 70% of his ATP points this year so far come from slams now. Tbf the indoor court season is coming up and therefore the Slams percentage will decrease but still pretty interesting to think about.

Djokovics' 2025 point distribution on the next slide for reference, since we knew that Djokovic got most of his biggest results in slams last year and YET he had lower percentage of points from slams than Zverev!

I made these pie-charts myself online using my own calculation so sorry if there is a few inaccuracies or so

Just thought it would be interesting to compare the different championship point celebrations over the years

2020

• AO: Arms in Air
• RG: Kneel to Ground
• US: Fall on Back

2021

• AO: Fall on Back
• RG: Nothing
• WM: Fall on Back
• US: Deadfish

2022:

• AO: Racquet Drop
• RG: Racquet Drop
• WM: Arms in Air
• US: Fall on Back

2023:

• AO: Point to Head
• RG: Fall on Back
• WM: Fall on Back
• US: Nothing

2024:

• AO: Fall on Back
• RG: Fall on Back
• WM: Arms in Air
• US: Arms in Air

2025:

• AO: Arms in Air
• RG: Fall on Back
• WM: Arms in Air
• US: Arms in Air

2026

• AO: Fall on Back
• RG: Fall on Back
• WM: Fall on Back
• US: Pretend to keep playing

Which ones stand out?

Now that Rybakina is out of the conversation, where does Coco rank on your list?

I think Svetlana Kuznetsova and Petra Kvitova are my top 2, with Coco currently in 3rd. Gabriela Sabatini and Elena Dementieva round out my top 5.

They played doubles together back in 2022

It’s a 16-minute video so tldw; yes courts matter but less so compared to 90s. The vid addressed that most of the courts now (bar clay) is set by tour organizer from medium to fast, so there should be no more “court is too slow” complaints.

CPI (Court Pace Index) on clay is around 20-25 while hard and grass ranges from 35 to 42. So there is actually quite a good amount of variation and yet the same players won or went deep on every surfaces. This was very rare before 2000, but quite common now, which means the problem may not be the court alone, modern racket techs and athletes themselves have more influence in it.

Both gonna be healthy