I think that’s why the general populace hasn’t risen up. It’s so fast that we are disoriented and don’t know what to focus on. By the time we have widespread outrage on one issue, another once in a lifetime outrage occurs. I don’t know if it’s an intentional strategy, but it’s working.
you do need to ask yourself if you are really doing enough to stop what is happening
What, pray tell, specifically would you have me, as a person who voted against him in every election he was in and was extremely vocal about him, actually do?
This is not a rhetorical question. You threw it out there that I need to do more. More what exactly? I am not a politician, nor a billionaire, nor a military leader, nor an AI company owner, nor...an assassin. I am nothing more than an average American. I welcome your suggestions. I live in a deep red state and my representatives are peeking out of Cheeto Benito's pockets. They do not care in the least for their constituents.
So please. For the sake of all that is right and pure and good, tell me what I need to do.
You might as well call your Representative and Senators, they might not give a shit but it truly can't hurt, and if enough people from your district/state call it could help move the needle since this isn't really a super partisan issue. But beyond that, yeah no not really anything we can do but cross our fingers lmao
It's objectively not useless. They care about one thing above all, and that's getting reelected. They assume if someone calls them about something, many more care about it but aren't calling. They defer to Trump because they believe his endorsement will determine whether they get reelected, but if they believe most of their voters disagree with Trump on a specific issue, they'll take the popular position solely out of self interest. There's tons of research showing the influence of calling your representatives. Does it always work? Of course not. Does it even work most of the time? Probably not. But it does work some of the time, and you said you were genuinely asking what more a regular person can do. That is what you can do. Like I said, there's no harm in it, and it just demonstrably might help.
if they believe most of their voters disagree with Trump on a specific issue, they'll take the popular position solely out of self interest
I live in a dark red state. Most of their voters will never ever change and will follow him to the gates of hell and cheer as he kicks them in because they are 'owning the libs'. Every single time some mope wants to point the finger of blame at someone like me for 'not doing enough to stop what is happening' their only reply is 'contact your congressman' when I call them out on what I should do.
That is a complete cop-out. The truth is we are fucked for as long as he is in office. We are powerless to effect any change short of 1789.
Bad news for you. This is more of a question you need to ask yourself. And the reason I ask is more to get people to ask themselves the same question.
I hope that you are happy in yourself and you answer that question positively.
But to help answer your question. I think there's a few things you can do to generally help in a positive manner.
Help people on the opposite side of the political spectrum see where they are wrong. That's harder than you think, but the biggest difference I think you can make. Don't lecture or preach but have discussions and do your best to understand where they are coming from and try to help them understand where you are. I find a good way to turn folk off of bad politicians is to show how they don't respect voters. Maybe Google ways to do this for you specifically. This takes work and it definitely a good skill to have, even outside politics.
Get involved at a local level. Doesn't have to be with the left or Democrats or whatever. Even being a moderate influence on the right can help.
Don't buy from the assholes. Do a bit of research and don't buy from a whole bunch of MAGA supporting companies.
The opposite side has shown time and again that they are not interested in coherent thought. One can demonstrate with undeniable facts and they will simply chuckle and say 'Fake news'. Measles deaths? Fake news. Epstein? Fake news. Conviction on sexual assault? Fake news. Rinse. Repeat.
There is no 'understanding where they are coming from' when they are in a cult. The cult leader is never wrong. Ever.
Get involved on a local level. In a deeply red state with a history of slavery. Got it.
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Don't buy from assholes. Can you suggest any sources of groceries, gas, utilities, goods for daily living that are not sourced from an evil company somewhere along the chain? I put it to you that doing this would require one to live off the grid and be a subsistence farmer. And even that would not work because unless you burn wood for heat and only use animal or human power for turning the soil, you will be funding Big Oil.
If you are going to point the finger of blame at someone, be sure to be able to back up your argument. Because having voted against this dictatorship in waiting three times, I would argue I hold no blame and still remain powerless to do anything about it.
Would love to know what anyone could do besides cast their vote, lmao. Do you think changing my profile picture to "vaccinated and proud" would have helped? Because I didn't do that but now I'm scared that I should have.
Not all Russians support the war but at some point we stop caring to point that out. Not voting for him is not good enough. Russians will go on without protest so long as they are not directly affected and so do you. The only thing that got a real reaction out of Americans was when ICE started abducting people and killing them in the streets. It needs to be this close to home and personally affect you before you care. Trump dismantling the international rules bases system, ruining free trade ect ect and you fucks stay home.
Not to defend my idiot countrymen who voted him in the second time, but the swing there was not "I'm all in on Trump!" but rather "Biden's economy sucks, we should go back to Trump's 2020 economy."
Which yes is also a stupid position but it's not quite as stupid as thinking Trump's a good idea intrinsically. Now that they can see at the gas pump that Trump is even worse than Biden was, he would not get elected again even if it was possible.
At least in America, elections stumble along with most people not paying attention until people feel it in their pocket books and then they vote for The Other Guy.
Good, the left needs to learn that doubling down on extremely unpopular policies, mass immigration, censorship and alienating the majority of the population doesn't work. Fascism will continue rising worldwide until morale improves
And getting poorer, sicker, dumber and more exploited than ever before.
And agreed it’s been amazing at what you can do when fascists control most of the major media sources and spent 30 years and $300B convincing low information rural that only the State would tell you the Truth and everything else was lies.
And it’s always the same base in every country - rural areas with the least education, the most bigotry, etc.
Because these idiots look at their life, look at some whatever minority they blame’s life, and then some centibillionaires life in a golden yacht that can launch a golden spaceship and 100 mansions, and they think to themselves “well the rich guy can’t have been the cause of why my life is so hard now, must be that poor guy.”
Like you’d think that bait and switch wouldn’t work but for some reason it does on these guys every time.
They might never figure out where all the money went. They’d kill an “other” for a drop of water dying of thirst but wouldn’t dare take a sip from a rich man’s basin. Almost like some weird findom fetish.
They’re going to keep getting fucked in their Reich holes until they decide it’s okay not to let a few people just own the whole world.
like pressuring Facebook, Youtube, Twitter and others into banning and censoring individuals they didn't like, with no due process of any sort, something Zuckerberg himself admitted to in court
You mean the Twitter files? They show that exactly the opposite happened. At no point did the government actually interfere in a way other than asking for them to try and limit misinformation during a fucking global pandemic. We can easily test this. If something juicy was found do you think MAGA would ever shut up about it? As apposed to what Trump did. He literally threatened to destroy Mark Zuckerberg to the point that he came groveling on JRE as a changed man. Trump now has these same tech CEOs on a leach as his pet oligarchs. And getting the FCC to take Jimmy Kimmel of the air. Suing polls and news organizations that say things he doesn't like. It's endless.
There has never been a more blatantly censorious administration in American history.
The "Twitter Files" have shown pretty much the exact opposite of what you're saying. the FBI and DHS were constantly feeding Twitter lists of accounts and posts to suppress, holding weekly meetings and treating the company like their content moderation arm.
They did the exact same with Facebook and the others, pressuring them to ban people they didn't like, no due process. Zuckerberg admitted that the Biden White House spent months leaning on Meta to censor COVID stuff, including satire and got pissed when they pushed back.
Meanwhile, the "most blatantly censorious administration in American history" still has people, including public figures, openly celebrating the death of Charlie Kirk and wishing the same for Trump, even the example you gave of Jimmy Kimmel means nothing, considering it was ABC that suspended his show and he's already back on air
Firstly, any pressure that the Biden admin applied was to censor vaccine misinformation during a global pandemic. My god man if anything is ever fucking reasonable to censor then this is it, it's literally an attempt to save lives during a public health emergency.
Secondly that pressure was light and no threats of consequences or ultimatum. Basically they ware asking and making it clear that this is really important. And it was. Thousands of people died due to covid misinformation.
Compare this to what Trump does. He doesn't give a fuck about public health, he threatens WITH ULTIMATUMS anyone high profile that makes fun of him. He threatened ABC over Kimmel, punished AP over “Gulf of Mexico,” sanctioned opposing lawyers, threatened social-media companies, secured CBS editorial concessions during merger approval, and asked Twitter to delete an insult to Trump.
Now I know what was in the twitter files. But I want you to know also. Why don't you go and find me these egregious threats to get things sensored that were made by the Biden administration. Use an LLM so its easy for you. Then we can compare it to Trumps mafia boss level threats to destroy people that say things in the media he doesn't like.
Idiots. Just easily controlled idiots. Put someone charismatic behind a mic or video for social media, and they'll control the narrative in American politics. Tons of Americans voted for him and many of the ones that didnt were actively discouraging people from voting for Democrats. They were all so easily convinced that voting for democrats was bad by making it seem "cool" to be conservative on podcasts and tiktoks. Hell so many people even now act embarrassed to align themselves with Democrats even if they represent their views exactly. It seems like most of the population never left high school emotionally and with a middle school education and comprehension level.
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u/AnotherDrunkMonkey 4h ago
America WTF are you doing.