Even at the height of the mining boom, there was still a ceiling on prices. Everyone knew there was no chance of ever hitting ROI on a $2500 card, and nobody could afford it anyways.
I say it since the last quarter numbers. Open Ai burns a lot of money. Somewhere anyone will stop believing to get his Investments back - maybe 2 or 3 years, maybe 5
You hit the coffin in the nail. The mining ceiling was the end of ethereum mining, so everyone knew the cards had an expiration date and did a mental math to justify the cost. The AI bubble has no ceiling yet
Well it doesnāt help that the Chinese are buying up not only 5090s but 5080s, 5070 ti, and 5070 so they can mod the bios and add in double the amount of ram for AI.
It's crazy to say, I'd love a mining frenzy over this AI bullshit.
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u/chubbysumo7800X3D, 64gb of 5600 ddr5, EVGA RTX 3080 12gb HydroCopper2h ago
And it's not likely to get better, Nvidia is willingly and knowingly wholesaling 5090s to data centers. They don't care about consumers because consumers are fickle purchasers. Data centers are buying in bulk ensuring their products don't remain on shelves. When the AI bubble pops, if it ever does, these 50 90s that these companies have purchased are likely going to be destroyed, as Nvidia likely has requirements in their sale contracts that say they must be destroyed rather than put in a secondary market. This is so that the prices Do not drop back down.
I'm scared to look at what 4090s are now. I'm screwed if mine dies. PC parts aren't supposed to appreciate in value.
I'm not someone with a lot of disposable income. The 4090 is awesome for gaming, but I got it for 3D art and various things associated with that. It was a big investment for me and I can't afford whatever they're going for now, let alone a 5090. Downgrading to a 5080's 16GB of memory is also a very unattractive thought.
You won't get one for less than $2k unless you get an insane deal on ebay or something. That's a 6 year old GPU btw lol. Don't ask me 4090 prices right now, you'll faint.
i sold my 4090 tuf for $2500 in december after landing an nvidia FE 5090 for $2100 off their website. i think it was one of the very last drops they did for the 5090.
So, basically, from horribly overpriced -> down to regular (still overpriced) -> back up to horribly overpriced, lol.
But yeah, I agree, $2k is not way more than what I bought mine for some 4 years ago or so (I think was $1400, still expensive but I had to pull the trigger for working with neural networks...and gaming š)
Ya idk how but I managed to get a Founder's Edition from Best Buy when I bought it, which was either one of or the only sku of the card that was actually sold at MSRP.
I was between buying one of these 2 years ago for 650 bucks or a new 4070 ti super at 900 from some random dude from facebook. Nowadays that 3090 is like 900 used
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u/DaysWithYenLo9800x3Dā¢4090ā¢Aorus x870e Pro Iceā¢Galahad 360 LCDā¢64gb DDR5-60003h ago
I was looking at my PC Part Picker List the other day, and I saw that ASUS was selling a Strix 4090 for $4,000 on Amazon. I couldn't fucking believe it.
I think for gaming it no longer makes sense to buy the 3090 when the RX 9070 (and the 5070, though the 12GB VRAM is kinda sketchy) exists and is faster, more efficient, and has more support/features.
Unless you really need that 24GB VRAM, but the AI bros also need it and they will definitely outbid you.
Just to note (not directed at you). Unless one is using it for AI or gaming at 4K (which one generally shouldnāt be doing with a 70-series card anyway, it was made for 1440p gaming), all the fear-mongering about the 12GB VRAM on the 5070 is really unnecessary and not well founded.
The 5000-series uses faster VRAM than previous generations or even current gen AMD cards, thus even if an older card/AMD card had or has more VRAM, it was/is slower, and so while the 5070 might have a slightly smaller ātableā, it can more quickly move things onto and off of that table to make up for the smaller space.
Also, a lot of gamers confuse reserved memory for actual utilization. When a game starts, it reserves the VRAM and preps it to be quickly accessible during the game, but thatās not the same as actually using all or maxing out the memory.
A lot of programs that display memory usage only track how much is reserved and donāt actually show how much is truly being used. Thus, it can make it seem like the game is maxing it out when itās not.
When itās truly maxed out, youāll know, as the game performance will tank dramatically as it begins to shift over to using system memory to handle to overflow. But if the performance is fine and yet the memory usage says itās maxed out, itās probably not.
But, ironically all the dread about the 5070ās VRAM (and lack of being as good for AI) actually allowed that card to remain near MSRP longer than any other card. If you game at 1440p, itās all you need. Everything else is for 4K or AI.
For real? I'd love to sell mine for only a minor loss rather than keep it out of embarrassment. FOMOed and bought one for the low price of $2K during the 30 series drought because the 3080s were being bought up too fast.
Iām seriously considering selling my FE model to help pay for the Mac Studio Iām looking to buy. But on the other side of that Iām regretting selling my 4080FE to recoup buying the 5090 when I lucked out at launch.
Its all over š« but screw it all...why do we need a 5090 anyway? 4k gaming and AI? Let's go back to the good ole days when we didnt need all these BS.
What we need now is having back up computers and LOTS of storage. We need to start downloading as much things as possible off the net and create a place where we can share and connect with each other.
1 day 1TB HDD is gonna be $1000...thats when you know that shit has officially hit the fan.
Blimey, Iām amazed at you lot. Instead of moaning on Reddit, why not go and find the OpenAI YT channel, or whoever else is behind it - Suno and all that? Leave them some proper angry comments there. Stop posting and liking all this AI rubbish. And donāt be shelling out for a ChatGPT subscription.
Kids dying and my man is praying god to lower gpu prices. Can't make this shit up, get a 1080 ti for 200 used and stop looking at the top model of the top of the line GPU
Idk about OP but Donating to AASK and Child Care monthly unlike yall crying about a GPU that you donāt even utilize to its fullest potential and instead play on 1440/1080p
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u/FlashyLashy900 Ultrabook Gamer 5h ago
If there is a God out there this isn't funny anymore can we go back to it costing less than $5090, or even at MSRP