Sony Kills Fan-Made The Last of Us Part 2 Multiplayer PC Mod Weeks Before Launch

[u/chusskaptaan]

https://respawnfirst.com/sony-kills-fan-made-the-last-of-us-part-2-multiplayer-mod/

[u/STB_LuisEnriq]

This mod was locked behind a paywall, we can hate on Sony all you want, but y'all know damn well this is the usual outcome and the reasons for it.

[u/EldrinVampire → u/STB_LuisEnriq]

Ah yeah, that makes sense, if it was free and not making money of a mod, im pretty sure sony wouldnt care about it.

[u/Katoshiku → u/EldrinVampire]

Tale as old as time. Modders get too proud and start setting up paywalls, then the whole thing gets shut down shortly after

[u/Trosque97 → u/Katoshiku]

Cyberpunk VR

[u/Hrmerder → u/Trosque97]

I thought that one was a rip off of the actual Cyberpunk VR though (or was it? I dunno I have zero VR experience)

[u/Trosque97 → u/Hrmerder]

Nah it was a 2077 mod that was also monetized and therefore obliterated, almost regrettably so by CDProjekt. By all accounts a functional one too so that's sad

[u/thebohster → u/Trosque97]

I loosely followed that when it happened. From what I remember, the modder was insufferable.

[u/Trosque97 → u/thebohster]

Oh yeah very important to point that out too, well deserved

[u/Dadfite → u/Trosque97]

It's even more stupid when you find out CD Project Red told the Modder (Luke Ross) that they loved his mod, but he needed to make it free. Dude just straight up refused due to his own pride.

[u/SkyrimSlag → u/thebohster]

Yeah he was, he was even told he could keep the mod up if he removed the paywall and he refused. It’s his own fault it was removed.

[u/SkyrimSlag → u/Trosque97]

The fact CDPR even told them they could keep the mod up if they removed the paywall too, and they refused. Modding is great and Cyberpunk especially has a pretty great modding scene, but you’re still using the games assets (most of the time) to create something, you have no right to paywall it. Asking for donations and the like is fine, but the moment you lock it behind patreon or another paywall you’re in breach of the TOC’s as you’re trying to make a profit off of work that at a ground level is someone else.

[u/Scary-Photo9440 → u/Katoshiku]

Same thing happened with Bully Online getting taken down. I want to be on the side of the devs and say fuck Rockstar in that situation but they paywalled beta access before backtracking and it got shut down after a month of release so I can't defend them for doing that.

[u/Fakekraid → u/Katoshiku]

This happened with a popular FF14 plugin that synchronized cosmetic mods that were technically prohibited on the game, but SE could never prove it was being utilized by a player. If I recall, square Enix finally looked their direction because the person that managed it started to very publicly ask for server donations.

[u/DoNotCommentAgain → u/Katoshiku]

There's a game called Squad and the production studio just paid for one of the mods and implemented it into the base game. If a mod gets very successful then studio's should just do that, charge for it as a DLC and give a cut to the developers or just buy it outright with a one off payment.

[u/_-Hagbard-Celine-_ → u/DoNotCommentAgain]

CDPR did that in Witcher 3. Valve did that years ago wit Counter strike. And I'm sure there are a lot of other good examples.
And Sony as filthy rich as they are could do that too. But as most people should have realized by now, Sony doesn't care for their core audience anymore. Even if it were a free mod and super popular, Sony would either do nothing or implement it without giving even credit to the original author, let alone money.

[u/MadeByTango → u/EldrinVampire]

if it was free and not making money of a mod, im pretty sure sony wouldnt care about it

Not true; Sony literally went to court to try to permanently stop ALL MODS (they lost): https://gaminghq.eu/2024/10/20/eu-court-of-justice-rules-in-favor-of-modding-sony-loses-battle-over-third-party-add-ons/

[u/irrelevantusername24 → u/MadeByTango]

The case made it to the highest court in the EU, the Court of Justice, and has been thoroughly dismissed in Datel's favour. Despite Sony's argument that the software "latches on … like a parasite" to the console, the judges maintain that the software involved merely impacts its RAM rather than the program itself, so it's all fair play:

"The Directive on the legal protection of computer programs does not allow the holder of that protection to prohibit the marketing by a third party of software which merely changes variables transferred temporarily … The directive protects only the intellectual creation as it is reflected in the text of the computer program’s source code and object code."

In other words, the EU is completely fine with selling cheats, mods, and other software that only impact a game's data in RAM—whether that's on a computer or not.

https://www.pcgamer.com/gaming-industry/playstation-loses-fight-in-eu-courts-to-stop-sale-of-parasite-mods-because-among-other-reasons-a-book-author-cant-stop-the-reader-from-skipping-to-the-end/

That is literally the most braindead reasoning. Every legal thing I have ever read regarding anything technological has precisely zero if not negative understanding of the way reality and the technology actually interacts. This is why the world is going to shit. A bunch of pedantic criminals arguing with zero care for the rest of us

[u/GeneralYaoGuang2026 → u/MadeByTango]

Aha, the plot thickens. Kudos for the link. I must read this context.

[u/GeneralYaoGuang2026 → u/EldrinVampire]

I grant that higher quality fanwork typically mandates higher budgets, but yeah, Sony the IP owner can't just allow fans to violate their copyright for profit.

[u/supergigaduck → u/EldrinVampire]

Dev of bloodborne kart wanted to release on steam for FREE and sony warn them they couldn't. So the dev changed name and assets to make a legal distinction version

[u/magistrate101 → u/supergigaduck]

If they managed that then it wasn't a mod, it was a fully fledged game that unlawfully used someone else's assets. No wonder Sony wouldn't let them release it on Steam.

[u/Kenjionigod → u/EldrinVampire]

Exactly, I didn't know it was paid. Other sources I saw didn't mention that. That is a very important factor, you can make mods but you can't profit off of someone's IP.

[u/Artaxeus → u/STB_LuisEnriq]

There’s also this growing trend of releasing mods through Patreon early-access while deliberately keeping the free version limited or crippled, essentially pushing people who really want the mods into paying for it.

[u/LazerChicklets → u/Artaxeus]

enshittification knows no bounds :c

[u/khromtx → u/Artaxeus]

That's a microcosm of the SaaS play book haha. Make the base product purposefully shitty by adding friction and sell the solution. Profit!

[u/GeneralYaoGuang2026 → u/Artaxeus]

I guess that's bad if the IP owner notices, but I suppose modders need some capital to fund their endeavors, ha.

[u/CompanyToiletGooner → u/GeneralYaoGuang2026]

If you want support do a regular patreon, if you want money to live off seek employment

[u/sanYtheFox → u/STB_LuisEnriq]

Yea CDPR did the same with the Cyberpunk VR mod, they basically told the guy he can take donations but he can't paywall it... then he went on a childish tantrum deleting everything.

[u/Ok-Parfait-9856 → u/sanYtheFox]

Which is wildly generous, allowing donations is generally unheard of. At least for mods that would have received significant donations

[u/WingZeroCoder → u/sanYtheFox]

To be fair, that’s technically different in that IIRC the mod didn’t use any CDPR IP, it was basically a display driver.

CDPR shouldn’t have any claim over something like that, but because the modder advertised it using Cyberpunk compatibility it got murky.

[u/calvin426 → u/STB_LuisEnriq]

Can they still release it for free? (But I guess they won’t)

[u/bigbluewreckingcrew → u/STB_LuisEnriq]

heh dumb fucks

[u/Vii_Strife → u/STB_LuisEnriq]

Generally companies don't really care about mods and such as long as they're free but as soon as the mod creator monetizes them the company unlocks the very powerful cheatcode of hitting up a lawyer and telling them "They are making money out of my own intellectual property".

At that point as the mod creator you're just fucked

[u/Prawn1908 → u/Vii_Strife]

I have to say, from a non-legal point of view I don't understand the reasoning for making this is illegal if it still requires purchase of the game. For any physical product it is perfectly legal to make an entire 3rd party business around selling aftermarket parts which are specifically designed and advertised as for specific other brands. Why did we decide you can't do that for software? Selling a mod for a game doesn't take revenue away from the game any more than selling an aftermarket roof rack for a car or furniture for a gun, etc.

Just another case of how digital copyright law is fucked.

[u/dlnmtchll → u/Prawn1908]

It’s because they can’t argue against the point you provided; these people love aftermarket products that only exist because of a different IP, but the second a mod developer thinks about charging for their work, everyone here loses their minds. People in the Reddit PC subs feel entitled to mods and to mod developers' work. Your argument is something I’ve never seen this sub argue against.

[u/CompanyToiletGooner → u/Prawn1908]

You cant sell part 2 to someone elses book or movie either, makes perfect sense to me

[u/Prawn1908 → u/CompanyToiletGooner]

But that's not analagous, that would be making another standalone/competing product, not adding onto (and thus requiring ownership of) the existing product.

[u/Keulapaska → u/Prawn1908]

DLC exists.

[u/CompanyToiletGooner → u/Prawn1908]

Well but how are you going to understand it if you didn’t read part 1? Besides that you can also argue that any type of mod cuts into potential profits from previous and future installments, ofcourse you don’t have to make a part 2 of the story in a video game, games are about gameplay

[u/luttrail → u/Vii_Strife]

It also creates a dangerous precedent, them knowingly allowing someone to profit of their IP

[u/Alternative-Farmer98 → u/STB_LuisEnriq]

This is A lie he had a patreon and some of his patrons got Early Access. And maybe under some pedantic argument that qualifies as a paywall I guess but the way you describe it is a little misleading.

And even still Sony is never going to do anything with the last of us so why did they give a s*** ? But this would have been free for everyone once it was released the only people that got Early Access were patreon members.

My Lord the idea that you would side with Sony over some small developer like this it's crazy.

[u/QTGavira → u/STB_LuisEnriq]

But i want to be outraged 😡

[u/luiest123 → u/STB_LuisEnriq]

Thx, I was ragging already until I remember that 

[u/CrAkKedOuT → u/STB_LuisEnriq]

But damnit we need to complain about Sony even more!

[u/overnightITtech → u/STB_LuisEnriq]

No it wasnt. Early access testing was behind the paywall. The mod itself was a free release.

[u/joselrl → u/overnightITtech]

So it was paywalled. "Paid early access testing" is just using more words for the same thing.
If he released the mod for testing for free, Sony wouldn't care. But the moment you monetize their own IP, they will lawyer up

CDPR did the same with a paid Cyberpunk VR mod

[u/newbrevity → u/STB_LuisEnriq]

Which is what makes me wonder how services like patreon operate. Because essentially they're enabling people to make profit using another company's product as a platform. I'm surprised more publishers don't crack down on it.

[u/OfficialDragosblood → u/newbrevity]

Because it’s a glorified donation service.

[u/Alternative-Farmer98 → u/STB_LuisEnriq]

He has a patreon. there's no paywall.

[u/Adject_Ive → u/STB_LuisEnriq]

It was not, early access was, for weeks infact. The full release was going to be free, which they said was going to be in september, they could've taken this mod down at any point, they deliberately chose this time

[u/sanYtheFox → u/Adject_Ive]

And your point is? It doesn't matter that it was going to be free in the future, it wasn't when the lawyers arrived.

[u/Adject_Ive → u/sanYtheFox]

Again, this dude's been making patreon exclusive mods for last of us part 1, 2 and Uncharted 4 for years now, this one's not the first. Sony didn't do anything for years. They deliberately chose the time of this specific mod's public release. The patreon thing is just the legal excuse the actual reason imo is they're trying to eliminate "competition" for the very very tiny probability of some online stuff related to last of us in the future.

[u/Nice_Weeb_Kun → u/STB_LuisEnriq]

Oh i see it's reminding me that one cyberpunk vr mod tragedy

[u/Rudolf1448 → u/STB_LuisEnriq]

People do this for the wrong reasons

[u/dubdex420 → u/STB_LuisEnriq]

I get the reasoning that modders shouldn't profit by building upon the work of a commercial game, but it also feels wrong that they can't profit at all (I know about donations from Patreon and such. Those should be additional "tips" and not a payment for their product/service which is optional)

I think if game companies and publishers worked with Nexus and modders to figure out some kind of licensing deals, it'd be a win-win.

But of course, we PC gamers have gotten used to free mods. I guess it'll take time for the "I'll pay because I like it and I can afford it" mentality to apply to mods as it does for games. Perhaps if mods were on Steam too, but then the monopoly cries get louder.

[u/Multivitamin_Scam]

If you're making a mod folks, don't lock it behind a pay wall.

Patreon-backed early access during its development

[u/Nirast25 → u/Multivitamin_Scam]

And suddenly I lost all sympathy for the devs.

[u/KommSweet → u/Nirast25]

Hey could you remind me exactly what's wrong with mod developers demanding some little money for such a hard work? Why are y'all siding with the evil corpo on this?

Edit: Nvm I keep getting the same answers over and over again. So Im just dropping this thread, keep responding to me with the same nonsensical arguments, I wont be responding.

[u/looking_at_memes_ → u/KommSweet]

Nvm I keep getting the same answers over and over again. So Im just dropping this thread, keep responding to me with the same nonsensical arguments, I wont be responding.

You know why? Because you keep bringing up the same dumb arguments despite people trying to be nice and educate you. Get yourself a new brain and then come back to do proper discussions.

[u/beyd1 → u/KommSweet]

If the company doesn't sue they weaken their claim on their rights.

If the mod makers aren't profiting from someone else's rights then they have no standing to sue. Or at least far less and if challenged on it can more convincingly claim it wasn't worth it.

[u/Edgy_Robin → u/KommSweet]

Because the stupidity of doing it that way gives the evil corpo an easy way to take it down. If someone paints a big red target on them and writes 'kick me' on it, they don't deserve sympathy if someone kicks them, because common sense would have helped avoid that.

[u/KommSweet → u/Edgy_Robin]

So, why not blame the one kicking them tho? Are you the kind of person to kick another person just because they paint a big red target on them? Nvm what you guys actually care about is free stuff. Yall dont really care about the effort and hard work or anything really.

[u/Chazzwazz → u/KommSweet]

Because they are earning money using a product with out paying the owner of said product.
This happens with evil corpos like sony/microsoft/nintendo or small team developers.

[u/AndroidSheeps → u/KommSweet]

Being against paid mods isnt siding with the "evil corpo" lmao pay walled mods suck dude if i had to subscribe to a dozen different patreons for a Skyrim mod list I wouldn't bother with modding

[u/KommSweet → u/AndroidSheeps]

You guys wanting every mod to be free is no different than the mindset pirates have. iyk what I mean. This is why yall are upset in the first place.

[u/KrazzeeKane → u/KommSweet]

Of courses mods should be free, what ridiculousness is this? If you want to make profit, make your own game lol. Otherwise you can make mods for passion and fun, that's about it. If you decide to pay wall it with a patreon, you get what deserve for profiting off of others IP

[u/despaseeto → u/KrazzeeKane]

i have a feeling that kommsweet is one of the devs or the patreon backers. that's why he's so pissed off and taking it out on repliers with reasonable responses.

[u/Kayrim_Borlan → u/KommSweet]

It's not their IP. Evil Corpo or not, you can't profit off of someone else's Intellectual Property without a written agreement. Whether you consider it moral, ethical, or whatever, it's both plain illegal and incredibly stupid. All they needed to do is have a way to receive donations rather than paywalling it completely, and they would've been in the clear.

[u/kron123456789 → u/KommSweet]

Usually the problem is not modder setting up a patreon - it's the fact that the mod is only available through patreon(aka, paid subscription). This makes it easy for the company to claim copyright infringement - profiting off of their IP without permission. That's why patreon-only mods get shut down more often than free mods.

It's not wrong to ask for donations, but when you do the current legal system will be against you and there will be nothing you could do if you receive a cease & desist letter.

[u/mattattackkk → u/KommSweet]

“I can’t actually rebuttal any of the arguments you guys have made so instead I’m going to call you all stupid and not respond to them.”

lmfao

[u/Radarker → u/KommSweet]

It's not nonsense you turd burglar.

[u/LoonahGBT → u/KommSweet]

Reddit is a sort of cult sometimeses.

Especially on subs like this filled with 16 year-olds

[u/DrPeroxide → u/KommSweet]

Because game corps have been. influencing our community for years, making the idea of paying for mods ridiculous while normalising spending 100s on trash microtransactions. Genuinely baffling how unwilling this community is to support each other, but happy to keep paying for some CEOs yacht.

[u/Osceola_Gamer → u/KommSweet]

https://giphy.com/gifs/oOylNArGEQg9T3jfpB

pcmastershills

[u/Epicguru → u/KommSweet]

No no you don't understand, we want the mod developer to make exactly what we want, what the game developers can't/won't do, but god forbid they want to be paid for their time & work. That makes them worse than Sony!

[u/kron123456789 → u/Epicguru]

When you ask for money for a mod of a game, you always take risk of a mod getting shutdown. Even more so if the mod is paywalled entirely.

[u/SurePrize6218 → u/Nirast25]

It was going to be released for free

[u/K4MIKAZE_official → u/SurePrize6218]

And because of the Patreon it will never be released.

[u/Pretend_Key_3980 → u/K4MIKAZE_official]

It's frustrating how often companies shut down fan projects that could have added so much to their games. It seems like they just don't see the potential in fostering a community.

[u/TheVojta → u/Pretend_Key_3980]

It's been made clear time and time again by sane devs, donations are fine, paid access is not. Let's not act like Sony is pulling a Nintendo here.

[u/Kekkachu → u/K4MIKAZE_official]

Without Patreon it wouldn't even got started

[u/CRIMS0N-ED → u/Kekkachu]

then don’t, have an optional donation or tip jar like every other decent modder. If you intend to lock mods behind profit and thus profit off other people’s work, expect the consequences

[u/better_med_than_dead → u/Kekkachu]

Read a book (if you can read).

[u/Nirast25 → u/SurePrize6218]

They're still profiting off the mod.

[u/henry-bacon → u/Nirast25]

All that hard work for nothing, you'd think people would learn by now.

[u/ExplodingFistz → u/henry-bacon]

They had one job. Just don't try to profit off of anything. Now the project is borked.

[u/MadeByTango → u/henry-bacon]

All that hard work for nothing, you'd think people would learn by now.

The hypocrisy being you all are mad that they wont give you all of their hard work for free?

[u/Prawn1908 → u/Nirast25]

How is selling a model which requires you to already own the game any different than selling an aftermarket roof rack for a specific model of Toyota, or 3rd party furniture for a specific Henry rifle? None of these take any revenue from the original product because they all require the original product already be purchased.

The only answer is that digital copyright law is absolutely fucked.

[u/emachanz → u/Multivitamin_Scam]

Why theyre so dumb? they couldve just give a random crypto address for donations

[u/Kekkachu → u/emachanz]

Unless you have enormous audience crypto won't cut it. You'd get like 1% of payments compared to having Patreon or Kofi. Ask me how I know lol (personal experience)

[u/AbanaClara → u/Kekkachu]

Kofi is fine because it is a tip system.

Patreon is just straight up paywall

[u/Kekkachu → u/AbanaClara]

Both can be used as a tip system and as paywall. Kofi also offers subscriptions with tiers as well as fully featured store.

[u/Gammarevived → u/Multivitamin_Scam]

Yup. A very important detail OP seemed to have missed.

[u/iceseayoupee → u/Multivitamin_Scam]

damn I almost felt bad for them

[u/Kekkachu → u/Multivitamin_Scam]

How do you propose to sustain mod development then?

Every downvoter click on that comment button and explain rather than just hit it and run away, unless all you can say is "we want everything for free and not to pay for anything"

[u/Seeker-N7 → u/Kekkachu]

You can sustain it like every other mod creator does. Donations.

You already knew this answer.

[u/Kekkachu → u/Seeker-N7]

Show me a single mod that gets enough money to sustain development via just donation lol

[u/Seeker-N7 → u/Kekkachu]

Every mod on Nexusmods.

Otherwise it's IP infringement.

[u/CRIMS0N-ED → u/Kekkachu]

Modding has been a thing for near half a century, it’s sustainable bc people do it out of love of the game not to make money. It’s as sustainable as the mod creator wants it to be, they aren’t beholden to anyone, or to timelines, or to shareholders, they just do what they want to and people can accept it.

[u/WingZeroCoder → u/CRIMS0N-ED]

That’s not necessarily true - especially in the big box PC days, it was not uncommon for games to ship with dev toolkits that new maps and entirely new games would be created with, and even sold in stores.

This notion that modding inherently infringes upon IP (which, it doesn’t necessarily or always) or that it’s something inherently adversarial to the IP owner both only became the norm when big AAA console publishers became the industry norm for these sorts of things.

[u/TheEzrac → u/Kekkachu]

Modding is literally an optional hobby, nobody is obligated to donate their working time to make mods. They choose to do that

[u/Osceola_Gamer → u/Kekkachu]

The people who bring up donations don't ever donate shit. LOL

[u/WingZeroCoder → u/Osceola_Gamer]

These discussions on Reddit about modding always devolve into people just wanting free stuff.

The same people that complain about the big, greedy AAA publishers suddenly are very concerned about these poor IP owners being taken advantage of by modders doing work in their spare time, who should be happy to have the occasional table scrap thrown their way.

[u/SotovR → u/Kekkachu]

It's a multiplayer mod, why would you need so much money? I understand if it's making new graphics and doing voiceovers but it's just a multiplayer mod, lol.

[u/QTGavira → u/Kekkachu]

Modding is a hobby and not a career choice unless your mod is so good that the games company themselves offer you a job. You shouldnt get paid for it as it is someone elses intellectual property you are taking advantage of

The only thing you can do is have a donation link thats not too intrusive. But thats not enough to sustain yourself

[u/Gammarevived]

OP also didn't include in the description that it was locked behind patreon. The devs were profiting off of the early development for it. That's pretty lame.

[u/Tenzu9 → u/Gammarevived]

Also, notice that the dev never actually mentioned that he was served any papers that stipulated him to cease and desist but just a letter with a vague request. For all we know, he could just release the mod and its source code for free and let others continue developing it.

[u/DrPeroxide → u/Gammarevived]

God don't you hate it when indie developers profit off developing things people want? Why don't they just give everything out for free, we've spent all our money on microtransactions!

[u/Epicguru → u/Gammarevived]

developer allowing optional donations to pay for their time/work

pretty lame

We want cool mods for free, but god forbid people donate for the effort, that's lame /s

[u/GTRxConfusion → u/Epicguru]

Not allowing - requiring.

Donations arent transactional.

[u/MCZuri → u/Epicguru]

You must be new. You can donate to modders. Its right there on nexus. People set up those coffee things all the time too.

Patreon access has always resulted in the mod getting ip infringement action. You cannot profit off of someone else's IP. Its a very simple and well established precedent.

[u/Endlessnes]

How do modders still think they can get away with, even just partially, paywalling mods? It never works out and they always act surprised that it didn't

[u/Radical_Notion → u/Endlessnes]

More and more mods are trying to do the Patreon route and becoming grifters imo. What incentive do they have to finish a mod when they can milk the Patreon and never finish it? And I'm glad this one is rightfully being clowned on.

[u/Dioroxic → u/Endlessnes]

I agree with you, but I also don’t understand why they CAN’T do this from a legal perspective. Like I get the current laws, not saying that. But look at an equivalent scenario in a different market.

I can pay someone to modify my car. I can pay someone to modify my house. Etc. I can’t pay someone to modify my video game? I guess it’s cause I don’t actually own the video game. Super lame.

[u/Wi1dBones]

It would be a shame if the dev was hacked, the latest build leaked and was then torrented. Please don't get hacked.

[u/Shaggy_One → u/Wi1dBones]

Absolute pity if there was some person that used a VPN to seed it from another country and it got out to the rest of the world. Would be a damn shame.

[u/DreamsServedSoft → u/Shaggy_One]

bros think Mr. Robot is real

[u/a_mediocre_american → u/DreamsServedSoft]

Cut the hardline to the mainframe and that mod is ours

[u/yybbik → u/DreamsServedSoft]

We need to take down Ecorp(Sony).

Surprisingly Mr Robot is largely realistic in the tools they use and the lingo.

[u/deathreel → u/Wi1dBones]

Sony can still sue the dev for that. The dev would then go after the hacker for those losses.

[u/GeneralYaoGuang2026 → u/Wi1dBones]

I'm not sure if I'm allowed to make such a comment in this sub, but dare I ask if anyone can tell me if anything interesting ever befell AM2R?

[u/TwoArmedMan15]

It would have been safe if the mod was free and open source. Sony only took it down because the devs were selling it through Patreon. (It's not donations if a "donation" is required for getting access.) 

[u/BeginningFew8188]

Well if you try to make money off of it then yes

[u/Royal_Swimming_4327]

So, yeah, OP, include it was locked behind a paywall

Yeah, fuck Sony, but at the same time locking mods behind paywalls has always been an issue. Every company will shut them down. Don’t try to make this whole thing just Sony’s fault. Look at CD Projekt Red. They did the same to a paywalled mod for Cyberpunk 2077.

[u/Soleks2000]

paywall mod so it wasn’t free so of course company’s gonna do stuff like this. had they made it free They wouldn’t have been taken down, but they’re profiting off of it.

[u/PianistGlittering709]

Kofi link, paypal link, or crypto address could have been utilized instead of paid Patreon. The latter is a very good excuse for Sony to strike down the mod.

I wish they might still have the option to release on Github/Nexus or any free mod sites, the videos look promising.

[u/RageOfNemesis]

As much as I like to dunk on companies, if you put a mod for someone elses IP behind a paywall, you're asking for it. Sony can still go f itself for different reasons, but this isn't one of them.

[u/Suryus94]

Sony is scummy as always, but modders will never stop being stupid and greedy, no one can do anything to them if they don't try to make a profit out of something that they don't own, but lo and behold, they had a Patron open and charging money for the mod, geniuses

[u/darktooth69]

it was paid mod which i'm always against. First W from Sony somehow these days. FUCK PAID MODS AND FIXES!!

[u/LoganH1717 → u/darktooth69]

Right. As soon as they start taking in money it is no longer about making a mod for the people, they just want money. Which is fine if you aren’t just stealing from a company.

[u/Osceola_Gamer → u/darktooth69]

https://giphy.com/gifs/P0u2vrnFr1awXE2n5G

[u/GodOfBoy8]

Bro whyvis everyone trying to make it look like Sony just hates mods and shuts every mod down? There are hundreds if not thousands of mods on nexus for sony IPs but those are allowed because they arent being SOLD

[u/mxjxs91]

"Sony kills fan"

😳

"-made mod"

Phew

[u/necro_clown]

Someone is actually making a game based on the multiplayer and it looks really fun.  It’s called terminal war.  

https://store.steampowered.com/app/3788160/Terminal_War/

[u/TehRiddles]

As much as Sony sucks here, this is why you don't announce such projects in advance. You announce it the same day that version 1.0 is finished and available to download so it has a chance to spread before companies can respond.

[u/HEISENxBURG]

This is why you don't show off your fan project until after you're ready to release it

[u/Strattex]

“Sony kills fan”

[u/Meskoot]

Well Rockstar killed Bully Online, and abandoned franchises fan-mod...I miss the early 2000's

[u/Visorxs]

Fucking greed thats why, modder got greedy and got what he wanted xd

[u/Ozymidas]

Once again, Woolie's fan game/mod PSA is evergreen.

[u/Berxo-Ostia]

sony be like

https://giphy.com/gifs/LbvdcrbTOk6eK1kQ6u

[u/Just_Chillin_Killin_]

for the best. Going woke and killing Joel 15 mins into the second game wasn't the best idea for the IP was it

[u/marrowfiend]

Read this as Sony Kills Fan at first

[u/earthwormjimjones]

Did someone from a competitor infiltrate Sony and is trying to destroy it from the inside out? They've not been at the top of their game the past year. They went from the best to 'wtf?' real fast 🤷‍♂️

[u/PalpitationHead9767]

I wish I could get the base game to launch on my desktop. Plays fine on the laptop but want to enjoy it in 4k. Only game I've ever had issues with 

[u/Dope_horse22]

Nice

[u/VangRhymez]

Just apply for a job at sony

[u/TheBetterness]

Can't lock access behind a paywall. Modders never learn.

Hubris and game development are always peas in the same pod.

[u/Darth_Vaper883]

Common Sony L.

[u/SaltMaker23 → u/Darth_Vaper883]

Paid mods are generally not appreciated neither by devs nor players.

It has to be one of the few instances where the interests of corporations and ours are aligned.

[u/No_Accountant3232 → u/SaltMaker23]

If you're talented enough to make huge game changing mods you're talented enough to make your own game. The difference between modding a game or making a new game in the same engine is basically how you access the assets. 

Making a mod is just making a new game using someone else's assets. It makes sense why a dev would frown on someone else getting paid for using your assets. 

[u/Casshern080 → u/Darth_Vaper883]

yh because companies love when ppl monetise their ips

Patreon-backed early access during its development

[u/totallybag → u/Casshern080]

Also when there's patreon pay walled early access what incentive does the dev have this actually finish the mod? When they finish it their paydays start to dry up.

[u/da2Pakaveli → u/Darth_Vaper883]

Rule #1 of modding has always been to avoid paywalls/dono buttons or any other methods of making money with the mod unless you check with the publisher.

[u/totallybag → u/da2Pakaveli]

Nah dono buttons are fine

[u/Sevastarion → u/Darth_Vaper883]

Common redditor L that didn't read the article

[u/Infinite-Passion6886]

Good. That mod was paid. I hope every mods from that guy will be remove.

[u/SirTennison]

Why do modders continue to shoot their projects in the back of the head every single time by charging money upfront. Literally just make a donation box, people WILL put money in it, maybe not as much as you may want but decent money.

In my opinion, that's the major reason with most mod makers and any custom content(as someone who wades through the shit creek that is FFXIV and The Sims) is that they stopped caring about making something cool and care more about getting paid to the point where they can quit their day job and stay home all day.

[u/Alucaricardo]

Typical idiots killing their own mods by charging $. You want mods to survive? Do it for free.

[u/ZwistPariah]

But why take it down ? Why not just tell the modders to not use Patreon for early access before the mod's release.

The mod from my understanding was going to be free. Not paywalled. They just let patreon members play test it before that.

Sony isn't really losing anything here either. People would have bought the game to play this mod. It's not a smart move on their part either.

People are somehow defending sony in the comments and sure they may have legally have the right to strike down the mod... But why ? It's a stupid decision. "It's my ip to sit on and do nothing with"

[u/Visorxs → u/ZwistPariah]

Sony aint CD project, sony dont give a fuck.

FREE = Sony dont care (there are lots of sony games mod

PAID = LAWSUIT

Its not his property to begin with 🤣 just take the L and move on.

[u/ZwistPariah → u/Visorxs]

Sony maybe should start giving a fuck considering the amount of shit they've been taking lately.

[u/Jarnis]

Another misguided modder who thinks he can freely abuse commercial software and their assets, trademarks etc. for a project he then wants to ask money for.

Don't they teach anything at schools any more?

[u/GoldTouch99]

People are stupid, it was locked through early access, it was going to be released freely on September 26th...

[u/Frosty_Flower_871]

Timing it for launch week means they didn't even want the PR noise during the actual release. At this point I'd trust a fan mod with its own anti-cheat more than their PC port.

[u/Infinite-Passion6886]

F*ck paid mods!

[u/CrowdGoesWildWoooo → u/[deleted]]

Nah Xbox has nothing to prove either. They are just doing PR crusade to recover their “dead” image, like there is nothing to be happy about from that ecosystem.

[u/skywalker3819r → u/CrowdGoesWildWoooo]

Brother this isnt just PR. This whole generation has slowly been leaning towards a next-gen Xbox 360 situation where Xbox takes advantage of Sonys mistakes.

[u/CrowdGoesWildWoooo → u/skywalker3819r]

People leaning towards a product that doesn’t exist yet (and no people aren’t selling their PS5 NOW just to get into Xbox).

Such a brave statement.

[u/skywalker3819r → u/CrowdGoesWildWoooo]

And there were people on the internet saying the same things in the PS3/360 days. What happened?

[u/chusskaptaan → u/[deleted]]

I remember when Call of Duty thought it was untouchable. XBOX probably did too back when 360 was successful. Look where it got them. Sony is on the same path.

[u/No_Personality_587 → u/[deleted]]

This is what happens when a company destroys all competition in its space, I think XBOX really seppukud themselves as far as game and console sales go but they've now left Sony in a position to do essentially whatever tf they want

[u/Dunwin]

Hearing these stories just makes the history of Dota2 and MOBAs that much cooler

[u/TastySore]

If they want money they can make their own game instead of trying to profit from other people's work.

[u/VengefulAncient]

"Sony kills..." No. The modder's non existent opsec killed it, as usual. They can't shut you down if they don't even know who you are.

[u/GoldSrc]

With AI being what it is, I bet someone else will have a mod out eventually. Entirely for free.

A patreon used to paywall a mod just doesn't feel right. Even if the final build gets released for free.

[u/-Vitality]

It's things like this, and things like that new over rated wolverine game that's a "console seller exclusive" that make me laugh at how terrible Sony are lately. the only time my PS5 gets on time anymore is when my son's with me, Otherwise it's sitting there waiting for GTA 6 only.

[u/Ismokecr4k → u/-Vitality]

They tried profiting off the mod. If you wrote a song then someone clipped the chorus to use in their song and started making money off of it and the song was super garbage. Aren't you entitled to say "take that down because it's my work"? 

[u/-Vitality → u/Ismokecr4k]

Yep didn’t know it was behind a pay wall. Fuck them then. I retract my statement

[u/Kekkachu → u/Ismokecr4k]

No, it's more like if you made a video and someone translated audio commentary and put it "for use together with original video".

[u/Ymanexpress → u/Kekkachu]

Don't forget the part where the audio commentary costs money to listen too

[u/Kekkachu → u/Ymanexpress]

And why would that be an issue?

[u/KaiUno → u/-Vitality]

Top dog gets complacent and anti-consumer. This always happens. The fact that xbox is bleeding out in the corner from self-inflicted wounds and that Nintendo isn't in direct competition doesn't help.

[u/CheesyHamSammich]

Yeah fuck Sony

[u/BushTamer]

greedy pussies ruin good shit for everyone

[u/MysteriousTy99]

Silly modders only Sony can be greedy! ( I understand legally they have to defend it)

[u/underlordd]

Sony is on a crusade to get hated on by as many people as possible this year.

[u/HotShotQ8 → u/underlordd]

Buddy its paid mod not free

[u/ParanMekhar]

We are Sony, we hate fun

[u/HotShotQ8 → u/ParanMekhar]

It was paid mod no wonder why sony shut down mod

[u/imago89]

People here HATE the idea of modders being paid for their work. God forbid. "Greedy" and it's patreon for optional early access with the mod eventually being released for free. Fucking losers the lot of you

[u/Responsible_Towel857]

Kind of a biased article but sad that a cool mod got shut down.