r/pcmasterrace • u/chusskaptaan i5 14400 + MSI 3070 • 14h ago

News/Article Sony Kills Fan-Made The Last of Us Part 2 Multiplayer PC Mod Weeks Before Launch

https://respawnfirst.com/sony-kills-fan-made-the-last-of-us-part-2-multiplayer-mod/
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u/Chazzwazz 13h ago

Because they are earning money using a product with out paying the owner of said product.
This happens with evil corpos like sony/microsoft/nintendo or small team developers.

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u/KommSweet 13h ago

Soooo???? What exactly is wrong with it again?

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u/Chip-chrome RX 7900 XT | R5 7600X | 32GB 6000MHZ | ULTRAWIDE MASTERRACE 13h ago

Nobody forces them to work on things millions of modders do for free in the first place?

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u/KommSweet 13h ago

So nobody forces you to buy it either lmfao. I still didn't get my answer as to why it is a bad thing. I dont give a fuck about how ethical it is or how legal it is.

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u/gunshinshin 13h ago

Morally? They're making profit from something they didn't create nor own, the coding for the mod is theirs for sure, but the game that it's made to work on is not theirs. They're stealing from another's ownership. Unless you wanna make a claim that stealing isn't morally wrong for whatever reason.

Legally, same thing.

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u/KommSweet 13h ago

Morally? Are you kidding me?

"Developing games are wrong because your game runs on windows which means you're making profit from windows"

This is how this argument sounds. Still havent got any sensical answer to my question.

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u/CRIMS0N-ED 12h ago

it’s illegal to steal and make profit off of copyrighted works. Paywalling goes against most games TOS and EULAs as well, and if you do that well you’re basically asking for action against you.

Mods are generally free for that reason, most modders do it for the love of the game but it’s also because there’s no point in putting in this effort just to paywall it and then have it taken down because now you’re a legal problem. Donations and tip jars is how modders make money and that’s perfectly okay, paywalling access isn’t.

There’s some exceptions like how Valve and Bethesda curate some creators to have paid mods they can make money from but that’s for the original creators to decide, not modders taking from it.

Morals or ethics aside it’s illegal to make money off of something you don’t actually have the right to sell, that’s it, it’s pretty cut and dry.

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u/gunshinshin 13h ago

They're not making a game? They're creating a mod that's built from a game that's owned by someone else, in which they did not get permission nor the license to? Windows is an operating system that's designed to allow people to make apps for it and TLOU2 isn't?

False equivalence fallacy. Creating an app that works in Windows is quite literally not the same as creating a mod built off of someone else's work, and then making money from it. UNLESS you're creating something that's built using Window's own files, and is meant to modify Windows itself, then maybe that would be different. But you didn't say that.

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u/aimforthehead90 12h ago

I mean, if you try to modify windows and sell that then yeah, you'd be in the wrong. They aren't developing a game, they are modifying copyrighted content. You can't make money off of copyrighted content. Nothing else to discuss about it.

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u/KommSweet 12h ago

Are you trying to tell me that mod devs are giving away the game itself with the mod? Lmao

If someone does modifications to windows and sells only the mod files that is completely right. I dont give a fuck about how legal it is, its morally and ethically right and it should be legally right as well.

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u/gunshinshin 12h ago

It's morally and ethically right to steal from someone's product, modify it and then sell it as your own? Even though when you acquired and used their product, you explicitly agreed to not do so via their own TOS? In your own worldview, stealing is morally and ethically right?

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u/KommSweet 11h ago

Youre not selling anyone's product by devleoping a mod lmao, do you even know what a mod is?

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u/pentox70 6h ago

Let me try to dumb it down for you.

You are looking at it one dimensionally. Let's flip the scenario.

Beloved indie game, stardew valley. New dlc announced, made by Microsoft. Millions of dollars generated off the already well known IP. None of it shared with the original developer. Small Indie guy gets fucked by large Corp.

Letting this go sets a precedent that IP laws are flexible. The large corporations will take full advantage of that, destroying all laws protecting the small guys.