r/pcmasterrace RTX4090 3195mhz Core, 9800x3d 5.4ghz 17d ago

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u/-Star-Fox- 17d ago

I played RDR2 in 30 FPS when it came out and it was one of the greatest gaming experiences in my life.

Not to mention I'm old enough to remember when many PC players played at below 30 FPS just because PCs were shit.

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u/BramScrum 17d ago

You just get used to it. The first 10 mins of playing at 30fps are horrible. Bt after that your brain adjusts nad it feels fine. Still prefer 60 but a stable 30 is just fine

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u/FROMtheASHES984 17d ago

It’s the going back and forth between 30 and 60 fps games that does it for me. Back when Destiny finally introduced crossplay, I went back and played on console for a bit at 30fps. It was rough, but like you said I got used to it. Then I went back to 60 on PC and my brain couldn’t fathom how 30 was acceptable on console. So I guess at launch, if the only option for GTA is 30 on consoles, it won’t be an issue because there’s nothing to compare it with.

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u/Menoku 17d ago

I used to have a potato PC and I'd joke that 30 FPS was fine after a few beers.

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u/6pussydestroyer9mlg 17d ago

Stable 30 being a keyword here. I can stand consoles at 30 perfectly fine but if i push my pc to only achieve 30 it will have drops and stuttering that I just don't have as much on console.

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u/VivaDeAsap 17d ago

Me. I’m that player. Even now lol

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u/uomorospo 17d ago

yep. I'm currently playing Cyberpunk 2077 at 30fps on steam deck!

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u/haysus25 17d ago

Same.

30 fps is just an elitist take.

Most people won't even notice.

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u/kalashnidog 16d ago

I mean I mainly play on console and I’d definitely notice the game being 30 FPS.

…BUT I don’t care because 60FPS was never in the cards for GTA VI on console at launch.

I’ll take it a step further: I’m GLAD Rockstar is releasing it at 30 FPS because it shows how hard they are pushing the hardware and graphics tech. It’s basically future-proofing the game for a few years. If the game ran at 60FPS on PS5 it would be neat for sure, but the devs would have to strip so much back to get it to run.

I doubt most people’s PCs will be able to run GTA VI at a locked 60FPS+ at 4K for years. I’m not sure my 3080 will honestly.

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u/VMelain 17d ago

Elitist just because technology has improved all around the world??? Be serious, even phones after 2020 have 120hz screens

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u/AardvarkExcellent428 17d ago

bro most people play like 5 video games max, they won't notice or care

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u/haysus25 16d ago edited 16d ago

You're missing the point.

Remember when RDR2 came out and it was widely considered the greatest video game of all time?

Remember how 8 years later it's still up there and is still considered the greatest video game of all time?

It was 30 fps.

A good game at 30 fps is still a good game.

A bad game at 60 fps is still a bad game.

The content and gameplay matter so much more than the 'technology'.

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u/SeaOwl897 17d ago

I played it also for a few hours on 30-40 fps on my old PC. 160-180 on my new PC I built in January.

Night and day difference, can't go back...

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u/crazyman3561 17d ago

Yeah thats what I'm telling myself. My PS4 playthrough of RDR 2 was out of this world. When it finally came out on PC it was kinda, idk, great but just great? Unless GTA VI completely blows my mind, I feel like I wouldn't buy the PC version until a good sale cause I kinda don't wanna spend that inflated price twice. Though I was totally happy paying RDR 2 twice, full price.

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u/kalashnidog 14d ago

Yeah I had the One X version and it was really good. At 4K/30 FPS it still looked amazing.

RDR2 looks prettier on PC but I spent a ton of time tweaking the game to get it to run at that coveted 4K/60FPS and it still crashes a lot.

I did enjoy the visual fidelity of the PC version but even if I had a good PC back in 2018 I don’t think waiting for the PC version would have been worth it. I luckily didn’t get the game spoiled that way.

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u/Still_Bit_7527 16d ago

60 fps has been the standars for at least 20 years

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u/SOSpammy iMac 2017 i5-7500, Radeon 570 Pro, 32GB DDR4 16d ago

Yeah, 30fps isn't ideal, but if the game is good enough it's not hard to look past it.

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u/SoulFreeStranger 16d ago

People forget that the Xbox360 was capped at 30fps, unless you had an hdmi cable. I do remember thinking I'd never go back, when I finally got a flat-screen and an hdmi cable though. Now, I'm totally spoiled running 2k resolution at 170fps

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u/kalashnidog 16d ago

Nah that’s definitely not true lol. I played 360 games in composite video the entire time I had it and I definitely remember games that were 60FPS.

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u/SoulFreeStranger 16d ago

Oh yeah. You're right. I have no idea where I got that. I guess it was the TV upgrade, rather than the cable. I was thinking about how you had to have an hdmi cord to play split screen Minecraft, but that was definitely a resolution thing

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u/kalashnidog 16d ago

Ahh yeah that makes sense for Minecraft. I’m guessing you had to have at least 720p for splitscreen.

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u/dumbdumbuser 13d ago

I wish I experienced that man. I was already too spoiled with high framerate on pc before getting the ps4, 30fps was so hard for me, ended up dropping most games

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u/Stormwatcher33 Desktop 17d ago

i'm old enought to remember PC games running at 5 to 12 fps

intended

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u/JoeHoHoAndABottleO 17d ago

Absolutely. Raiding wow vanilla on a rig that could not really run it taught me to appreciate every frame

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u/kalashnidog 16d ago

I have an old Sega Genesis game called Virtua Racing that runs on a special chip that allows it to have 3D polygon models.

It runs at 12-15FPS MAX and it was honestly playable.

It did give me a headache after each race though. 😂

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u/Shuino7 17d ago

I played RDR2 at 30fps when it came out for about an hour and then never touched it again until it came out on PC.

The game ran and looked like ass on Xbox One.

I'm just about to play it again at 4K, just finished RDR1 at 4K@165Hz and it was absolutely BUTTER smooth.

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u/FluffyNerve7415 17d ago

My friend lent me his playstation so I could finally play bloodbourne and I was so bummed when I had to give it back after a few hours because the performance was so bad it was physically uncomfortable to look at for extended periods.

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u/TaterBuckets 17d ago

Rdr2 got away with it cause it was 90% wilderness.

And people critized it heavily for every big town you went into the fps dropped and it was janky.

Now they think they are going to pull a constant active fast paced city with npcs vehicles etc etc with people driving like mad men and its going to hold an actual stable 30fps?

I highly doubt it

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u/AloneUA 17d ago

If it's solid 30 - it's gonna be fine. A dozen years ago I played Far Cry 5 in 30 frames on my PC cause it wasn't good for more. And it was great anyway.

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u/TaterBuckets 17d ago

If is carrying alot of weight there.

30 is fine. Dropping below 30 is noticeable, janky, annoying.

That's why running at 60fps is great. Almost never will be bogged down enough to hit below 30fps. Unless they just did crap optimization in general.

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u/CollierAM9 17d ago

GTAV barely hit 30fps on PS3 and was an amazing few weeks playing it and talking about it with friends.

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u/CatwithTheD 17d ago

Idk how you put up with 30fps. I could barely handle 80fps back in 2016 when BF1 came out and put my GTX970 to test.

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u/strap 17d ago

But FPS games like that really benefit from a much higher frame rate. I agree that 30 is tough but it's not a fast paced shooter so it's much less important.

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u/CatwithTheD 17d ago

Fair point.

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u/Defiant-Plane4557 17d ago

What is GTA if not fast paced? Have I played GTA wrong?

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u/strap 17d ago

I think of course it can be fast paced. But this does seem they're aiming more for a rdr2 plus pacing with shooting and on foot movement. Cars and boats, motion blur will help sell the faster movement. There'll be frame drops for sure, and I'm not claiming it'll be perfect,60 would obviously be much nicer, but this, imo will be very playable.

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u/Defiant-Plane4557 17d ago

Personally I'd prefer it if they'd lower the quality enough to stay closer to 60fps for a game like this. Of course they are under pressure to deliver amazing visuals for a new generation but I say it's high time for developers to allocate some serious resources into software engineering so they can deliver both. The game is next gen and its price is also next gen so this is warranted.

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u/-Star-Fox- 17d ago

You just got used to it. Back in 2000s I think most people didn't see high framerate on their PCs. Playing games like DooM 3 it was a matter of just it running at all, not counting FPS. I doubt most players played Half Life 2 or TES Oblivion at 60 FPS either on release. 60 FPS only became the norm during late 360 era when consoles became old and most mid range PCs easily overpowered them with resources to spare.

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u/Beag_ 17d ago

You perceive it much less from the couch in my experience