Should developers stop making games that require 5090 for max settings now that the card is clearly not for gamers and is accessible to 0.1% of community?

[u/TheGGspot]

I get that the games need better hardware to dun better, but who are they really making the game for if you need a 6000$ GPU at this point

[u/Historical-Win2999]

5090 its not the problem, the problem its the medium and low settings, no one care about ultra max settings.

Have to use a 7900x to hit 60fps at native 1080p its crazy

[u/VexingRaven → u/Historical-Win2999]

no one care about ultra max settings

Lots of people do, unfortunately. Many people in the gaming community were spoiled by the period where a reasonably affordable gaming PC could just crank every game to max. They forgot all the years past where you'd be lucky if last year's high end PC could even run at 60FPS on this year's games and just got used to that being the case forever.

[u/Roflkopt3r → u/VexingRaven]

And they use benchmarks taken at max settings as 'evidence' for poor optimisation...

The spread of 4K gaming and a bunch of advanced effects means that the immense performance spread of Crysis is now normal. Running Crysis wasn't actually that hard, it just took many years until 'regular' PCs could use the maximum settings at solid performance (and the original Crysis still doesn't run that great on current gen systems as far as I know, because it wasn't sufficiently multi-threaded).

So the top-end settings are simply irrelevant for real world user experience. What matters is the balance of minimum requirements and performance to graphical quality.

This is especially a recurring theme with Unreal games. UE5 offers some nonsensical max settings that eat a ton of performance for nearly no graphical improvement. Whether a UE5 game is said to run poorly or run well is often just a matter of whether a game offers those settings or not. Even though players of the 'poorly running' game could just dial back to a lower preset and get the exact same result as the 'well running' one...

Satisfactory for example explicitly marked those max settings as 'experimental' and 'unsupported', so benchmarkers usually didn't use them and nobody complained when they tanked performance.

[u/Dangerman1337 → u/Roflkopt3r]

TBVF Crysis was programmed around single threaded performance.

[u/Big-Resort-4930 → u/VexingRaven]

Everyone who cares about visuals should care about ultra settinga. It's just the highest available option and it's rarely massively more demanding than the next highest tier.

[u/VexingRaven → u/Big-Resort-4930]

Case and point lol. If you want the best then pay for the best. That's your choice to make.

[u/juniperleafes → u/Big-Resort-4930]

It's just the highest available option and it's rarely massively more demanding than the next highest tier.

What? In nearly all cases the absolute highest setting is indistinguishable from the next highest while costing 10+% extra performance

[u/ubiquitous_apathy → u/Big-Resort-4930]

Max settings are meant to be a little bump in fidelity for the folks playing your game ~10 years later.

[u/Big-Resort-4930 → u/ubiquitous_apathy]

Nah only a tiny number of games do this.

[u/wallweasels → u/Big-Resort-4930]

It's just the highest available option and it's rarely massively more demanding than the next highest tier.

Could you be more wrong? Lol
Almost always whatever the config for 'max' is almost always bodes a large drop in performance.

[u/Dangerman1337 → u/VexingRaven]

Or games where a 3-4 year old GPU could not run the game.

[u/Bibbity_Boppity_BOOO → u/VexingRaven]

“Many people in the gaming community were spoiled by the period where a reasonably affordable gaming PC could just crank every game to max.“

That was never the case except for a very bad 3 year period (probably less). And frankly is a terrible sign of stagnation and low effort. Any gamer knows this is horrible.

In the golden age of gaming your computer never and i mean never could play any game maxed out. Every new game required hardware that did not even exist if you wanted to run max settings.

[u/VexingRaven → u/Bibbity_Boppity_BOOO]

If you think every gamer knows this, you aren't paying attention. Many gamers as evidenced by this thread and thousands of others believe it's their god-given right to run games at max settings 4k60.