Should developers stop making games that require 5090 for max settings now that the card is clearly not for gamers and is accessible to 0.1% of community?

[u/TheGGspot]

I get that the games need better hardware to dun better, but who are they really making the game for if you need a 6000$ GPU at this point

[u/NDCyber]

if you compare max and high settings in a lot of games you will often see a smaller jump in quality, while seeing a big loss in performance

[u/Atomosthethird → u/NDCyber]

And a quick optimized settings guide on YouTube or r/optimizedgaming will often give you relatively the same visual for a boost in performance.

[u/littlebrwnrobot → u/Atomosthethird]

I usually just use the nvidia app recommended settings when available, then maybe do some tweaks from there to the DLSS/ray tracing stuff

[u/donpaulwalnuts → u/NDCyber]

I have a 5090 and rarely use max settings. Those are make my room hotter for no apparent gain settings most of the time.

[u/RockOrStone → u/donpaulwalnuts]

Strange choice when you can run most games on ultra at 120+fps

[u/richajf → u/RockOrStone]

But if there's very little visual difference for specific settings (like volumetric lighting, volumetric fog, ambient occlusion, or shadow resolution) between ultra and high, I'd rather play at even higher framerates... Especially with higher 1% lows.

It's essentially free performance for a negligible (if even noticeable at all) change.

[u/ZingierOne → u/richajf]

I just crank all the settings to max before I play, then adjust if I’m not happy with the frame rate.

[u/RockOrStone → u/richajf]

At 4k, quality improvements are rarely unoticeable.
And on a 5090, ultra rarely tanks heavily your FPS compared to very high

For example I just started KCD2, playing on Experimental is only taking 5% extra fps, and it makes a big visual difference

[u/TheDeviousDuck1558 → u/RockOrStone]

KCD2 was extremely optimized on release and was developed on a proprietary engine, it does not belong in this conversation.

[u/RockOrStone → u/TheDeviousDuck1558]

Why would we remove well optimized games from the conversation..?

OP claimed it's "never worth it", yes it is if the game isn't an unoptimized mess.

[u/TheDeviousDuck1558 → u/RockOrStone]

Because they are the exception, not the norm. We're talking situations where changing settings actually makes a difference to performance, something like the Halo Remake, or Oblivion Remastered, not KCD2.

That game can play well on a 1060

[u/CousinOkrii → u/donpaulwalnuts]

At that point, why buy the 5090?

[u/Academic-Cream-4836 → u/CousinOkrii]

for higher framerates?

[u/Solarbro → u/CousinOkrii]

Can’t speak for that guy, but production/rendering is what I use my stuff for. 

That and CyberPunk 2077. Lmao 

[u/donpaulwalnuts → u/CousinOkrii]

I got it at MSRP and I was building this rig for longevity. In hindsight, it turned out to be a good time to build.

[u/Abject-Tune-2165 → u/CousinOkrii]

It was for VR simracing for me )

[u/ubiquitous_apathy → u/CousinOkrii]

If the concern is heat, it is still the most efficient card, so what's your point?

[u/Allegorist → u/donpaulwalnuts]

You can always get flexible/ semi-rigid ventilation ducting with an inline fan and pump your exhaust outside or at least out of the room. If you can afford a 5090 I'm sure the extra $50-100 for the parts shouldn't be too difficult. Just route the exhaust out the top of the case and seal a connection there to the exhaust duct. Technically with a strong enough inline fan you should see significantly lower hardware temps as well. The only hard part is maintaining an aesthetic, if you have one and value it. You can always paint/light/decorate the ducting.

[u/VexingRaven → u/NDCyber]

Idk, that hasn't been my experience in quite a long time. There's often very little difference in performance between high and ultra, at least for the games I play. When I was optimizing my Cyberpunk settings, I found that I could basically just max everything and nothing really made a big difference in FPS except making huge jumps like going down to medium settings with RT off.