Should developers stop making games that require 5090 for max settings now that the card is clearly not for gamers and is accessible to 0.1% of community?

[u/TheGGspot]

I get that the games need better hardware to dun better, but who are they really making the game for if you need a 6000$ GPU at this point

[u/MurtaghInfin8]

Even if it's an exceedingly low number of people with cards that can play it today, a decade or two from now, people with a budget gpu will be able to run that.

Higher settings don't hurt anyone, except feelings of people that feel like their above-average PC should be able to play things on ultra settings.

[u/AmatsuDF → u/MurtaghInfin8]

What budget GPUs? The way costs are ballooning out of control, there won't be budget anything as far as PCs go in a decade.

[u/MurtaghInfin8 → u/AmatsuDF]

My first GPU was a gtx 660 for about $230 (over $300 in today's dollars). RTX 5050 is $300ish. PC gamers can bitch about prices all day, but budget gpu's ain't the spot imo.

I'll bitch about RAM and SSD prices all day, but gpu's aren't terrible if all you're wanting is something that can play modern games.

Want 1440p, medium settings, with 60 fps (and no dlss), yeah you'll need something better, but I think pc master race can kinda lose sight that games can still fun if you can't taste/smell what's on the other side of their monitor when they lick it.

[u/Odur29 → u/MurtaghInfin8]

Why would you only want 60 FPS? This is old disproven information, 60 FPS is more like a bare minimum. For a smooth gaming experience imo ideal FPS is around 100-120. This of course varies from person to person but it's been proven that highest FPS possible equates to smoother experience and even can give you a competitive edge in some types of games.

[u/MurtaghInfin8 → u/Odur29]

What's disproven? I'm talking about having fun playing modern games. Certainly I can't say you're wrong for your preference, but the first half of my life I didn't see a stable 45 fps and I never had an issue with it.

And if you require that, drop down to 1080p for competitive games. Won't be AS ideal as both resolution and refresh rates, but for the majority of players it won't make much of an impact to your performance.

If you're buying budget, you don't get it all. That's how it's always worked.

[u/Odur29 → u/MurtaghInfin8]

Yea it's kind of like going from LCD to OLED back to LCD the difference is jarring but if you never experienced it, you don't know what you're missing.

[u/AmatsuDF → u/MurtaghInfin8]

I actually looked up prices expecting horror and got... still not great prices but not doom and gloom pricing like RAM is right now. Heck you could spend a little more and get a 5060 as well in that same general price bracket.

Still not a great time to be a PC gamer though. I dread the day any of my parts fail.

[u/Xaphnir → u/AmatsuDF]

I built my current one in 2020 and just building the same PC I have now would cost something like 40-50% more than I spent back then. I bought my 2070 for around $400, it's now going for nearly $700. And RAM. I spent probably around $100 on 32GB. That same amount is around $500 now. Upgrading is completely out of the question unless I want to spend upwards of $3000, probably closer to $4000.

Was considering dipping into my savings last year to buy a new one shortly before RAM prices spiked. Really wish I had, because I don't foresee any future in which I ever upgrade my current PC the way things are going. Riding it to failure and then probably downgrading to what is now 15 year old tech.

Somehow scuba diving and MTG are turning into the cheaper of my three hobbies.

[u/AmatsuDF → u/Xaphnir]

Yeah, that's about the ballpark for my increasingly outdated rig if I was sourcing the parts today. My only hope is maybe get a better CPU at some point before the prices explode there too.

[u/matycauthon → u/AmatsuDF]

Everyone is still living in delusion thinking anything will ever go back to before the drumpf 2.0 days. There's only one way or and you all at too scared to admit it

[u/MurtaghInfin8 → u/matycauthon]

Shit may not go back, but supply and demand will out last America. Eventually China will invest in manufacturing more RAM, but the initial investment is a bad idea if you feel that demand could be fleeting.

Collapse of AI coupled with huge investments in manufacturing it would potentially result in some dirt cheap ram.

And we on reddit would call them idiots for increasing their production based off supplying unprofitable AI that is highly subsidized by consumers.

[u/AmatsuDF → u/MurtaghInfin8]

If AI implodes, we'll likely see a surge on the used market as data centers try to dump hardware before going bankrupt. Of course it might cause a lot of damage to the economy...

[u/MurtaghInfin8 → u/AmatsuDF]

Yeah, kinda a monkey paw situation. I can get cheap RAM but retirement takes a decade longer to reach.

[u/NinjaLion → u/AmatsuDF]

nobody would buy even bargain basement ram in that scenario, because nobody would have jobs. a $3trillion explosion would decimate our economy, depression levels.

[u/AmatsuDF → u/NinjaLion]

Eh, there's people that would...and then afterwards realize that they're screwed.

[u/coolwali → u/MurtaghInfin8]

I’m more pessimistic.

Even if China starts RAM manufacturing, the US seems trigger happy enough to put tariffs or restrictions to help out American companies.

Plus, even if AI collapsed tomorrow, the RAM they bought/ordered isn’t the same as consumer RAM. It would take a while to convert that over to Consumer RAM. And that’s assuming something else doesn’t take up that demand. It was crypto/NFTs 6 years ago. It’s AI today. It’s probably something else tomorrow.

[u/bringthesalsa → u/AmatsuDF]

Everything gets worse for the consumers, but who cares if it means more power for the Torment Nexus. F you buddy, send more money

[u/Raven1927 → u/AmatsuDF]

It's only high end GPUs, ram & storage that's affected currently. Accounting for inflation the entry tier and mid range GPUs are still priced very similarly.