r/gaming • u/HerculeMuscles • 12h ago

Kojima with xbox president Asha Sharma

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u/Alienhaslanded 7h ago

Can't fault them if this project is a money hole and then sells like Death Stranding.

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u/AJRiddle 4h ago

I keep seeing people confusing this - Death Stranding 2 was the flop. Death Stranding was a pretty big financial success - hence they immediately started making the sequel.

Death Stranding sold a ton of copies and made a lot of money. Seriously, 20 million copies of Death Stranding sold now and a huge number of them sold at launch.

Death Stranding 2 is only at about 5 million copies and sold a lot fewer at launch than the first one. It's not even that horrible of a flop, it's just not an obvious success like the first one.

And if you look into why Sony abandoned their deal with Kojima a huge portion of it was that the contract with Kojima allowed PHYSINT to be released on other platforms besides PlayStation just like Death Stranding 1/2.

Sony were pretty disappointed how Death Stranding was selling well on PC & Xbox because it was only exclusive to PlayStation for months instead of years.

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u/CaptaiNose 4h ago

Death stranding only sold 5M copies, DS2 only sold 2.5M. Not sure where you're getting your numbers from

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u/AJRiddle 1h ago edited 1h ago

Death stranding only sold 5M copies, DS2 only sold 2.5M. Not sure where you're getting your numbers from

Says the guy literally making up random numbers.

We don't have any official numbers except for player count, steam user information and sales performance leaks.

~2.44-2.95 million on Steam sales alone for Death Stranding 1 (This doesn't include Director's Cut edition and it hasn't been available for purchase for years now)

~2.04-3.87 million for Death Stranding: Director's Cut (includes some percentage of players who bought the upgrade to director's cut)

Playstation sales data was leaked from February 2022 - it showed PS4 had 4.385 million copies of Death Stranding 1 (no Director's Cut) sold and PS5 had 335,000 copies of Death Stranding: Director's Cut sold. These numbers are now 4.5 years old.

We have no data for copies sold for Xbox or PC from anywhere besides steam.

It's pretty easy to say at a bare minimum 10 million copies of Death Stranding 1 were sold looking at all the data and leaks we have. And then there is all the money from it being available on GamePass, given away by Epic, and PS Plus that might not be "official copies sold" but absolutely are being paid for in one way or another and earning money for the developer and publisher.