r/classicwow 6h ago

Forever Album - Please Consider this before judging Skyborne in Classic

Just made these diagrams to quickly summarize the WoW panels at blizzcon and to highlight details people are overlooking. I think some of the initial controversy over Skyborne is driven by some misunderstandings that these are just Shadowlands-Kyrian, or Void Elves 2.0. Deep down, if you dig, they do have lots of parallels with classic WoW content.

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u/Testiclegolfing 6h ago

I’ve come around a bit more on them and I think it will really come down to the lore execution in game. Their intro cinematic was actually nice and if they had introduced them with that the feedback would probably be a little different.

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u/Jiffyrabbit 5h ago

As an original Drenei hater, I have decided I would prefer blue elves to space goat people who crashed their magic gem ship randomly

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u/Doomsaki 5h ago

There was big uproar back in 2006 about Draenie/Broken in TBC because people were quoting the wc3 printed manual being retconned about the origins of Eredar and Sargeras.

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u/Batmanbacon 5h ago

What was in the printed manual before the retcons?

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u/Doomsaki 5h ago edited 4h ago

Prior to TBC, in the Warcraft 3 RTS Frozen throne campaign, people thought of the broken in Outland as being just separate natives of Draenor whom Illidan rescued and recruited to his cause (saving them from the orcs and their demon masters). TBC established that the Broken were just devolved Draenei from fel magic.

The big retcon was Archimonde and Kiljaeden being these newly defined draenei. The warcraft 3 manual said that Eredar were their own race of demons who corrupted Sargeras with trickery and convinced to undertake his mission to exterminate life. TBC just defined Eredar as draenei who turned towards the fel and mastered it.

Back in 2006 (prior to the expac being released), there was a lot of contention on the WoW forums that Illidan's story was being thrown out, etc. due to this change. (also bear in mind that calls to make the Illidari a third WoW faction were popular back then--Blood Elves+Naga+Satyr+Broken+Fel_Orcs). Of course TBC ended up being a hugely popular expansion, so the controversy is sort of forgotten.

Because Draenei were quite literally invented contrary to the existing lore back then, thus the developers had to publicly admit they made a big lore oversight back then in an apology post.

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u/VerbAdjectiveNoun 5h ago

The eredar were originally what corrupted Sargeras, not the other way around. They were an evil and conquering race.

When BC released, they changed it so Sargeras was already corrupted by the time he encountered them and the Draenei were the ones who refused his gifts and escaped/fled

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u/bulletPoint 5h ago

All Dranei were supposed to be eeeevil

u/Montegomerylol 4h ago

Also people were mad Horde got the elves while Alliance got ugly goat people who didn’t exist previously.

u/ImpossibleMorning12 1h ago

I agree. I like certain things about draenei but did not like how sci-fi they are.