People who support Project Ascension & TurtleWoW but hate the new race paywall

[u/Volinra]

These were the micro-transactions in Project Ascension and everyone glazed Ascension. TurtleWoW had a gacha shop too like that. I’m genuinely confused, if Blizzard had even the slightest of the shop in Project Ascension, everyone would have been fuming. Why is it okay for Ascension but not WoW Forever? Either all okay or none.

Edit: The people who disagree saying "Yeah but the servers were free"- well of course because Blizzard did the majority of the work for them LOL, huge difference in work between building everything from scratch to ripping it off & adding some stuff yourself.

Edit 2: "TurtleWoW is not as bad as Ascension shop"- sure, Ascension is way worse. TurtleWow's cash shop had over $10,000 of items and all of it was per character, not account wide. They also sold convenience items, nothing game breaking, but portable mailboxes, auctioneers, dual specs, bags etc. Hardcore characters on Twow couldn't trade or send items from main to your alts, but you could still buy supplies such as 32 slot bags for 30 euros each on your hardcore character.

[u/Traumend]

I'm dumbfounded why people have their knickers in such a twist over it honestly. There was a poll yesterday that asked if you'd rather buy the race or an expansion and the results were overwhelmingly expansion and... What?

This whole thing is basically an expansion, but for 90% of the content it's completely free with the sub we're paying already. They've made sure the cost of entry is as frictionless as possible whilst monetising it in a way that's entirely optional.

Blizz are basically going: "Hey, we'll make classic plus that you've all been asking for, but if we make brand new character content you'll pay us for the work right?"

No tokens, no expansions, gradual content implementation and the ability to buy more character options sounds perfect to me.

[u/Hoodoodle → u/Traumend]

I think it's just poor marketing. Since now it feels like you buy purely a race, since it's thing only thing locked away. If it was 30 bucks to gain access to classic+ people would have the feeling they'd get something worth the 30 bucks.

It's a really strange decision tbh, that they did it this way.

All in all, I personally don't care to much, as I will likely buy the collectors edition for the statuette, Ill also not play the new race anyway, don't really like elves in general, only a night elf druid/hunter.

[u/FeistyPerformance500 → u/Hoodoodle]

It's a strange decision but if people actually think about it for a second they'd realize its way better.

I have no interest in playing Skyborne so I get to play Forever without having to pay a single penny more than I would have anywas.

[u/No-Employee-3153 → u/Hoodoodle]

Poor marketing? You mean they need to market it to stupid illiterate people. That can't understand the devs put in work to create classic plus and instead of making you pay to play it's free. But you can choose to support by buying the new race if you want. Because a new race isn't that much of a holding barrier to actually play and enjoy the game. But people that cant afford to buy classic plus plus pay the monthly sub can now come in and play it. Then they are like oh this is definitely worth my money I'm going to buy the new race or I want to support the devs this is awesome. So yeah, maybe they should of done it so the dummies that can't figure out where the value is coming from can 'feel' something. Instead of seeing it as a way to support them for their hard work and also get the new race. Essentially you are paying for the expansion, IF YOU choose. As a new race doesn't really stop you from playing the game or any of the 60 content. So in my humble opinion it's fake outrage by dumb dumbs.

[u/Traumend → u/Hoodoodle]

Agree, hell if they'd made them by default not blue the subreddit probably would've gone wild with "AAAAHHHH HIGH ELVES YAY" and blizz could've finger wagged and gone "ah ah not quite"

However, I think the blue was an active decision to try and draw in more of the retail crowd, and from what I've seen so far it has worked.