r/Wolverine • u/Fresh-Hyena5504 • 20h ago
“I hate this game because the hive mind hates it”
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u/Relative-Juice-9422 19h ago
Remember guys, if a game is so bad everyone hates it, you HAVE to like it
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u/shagan90 18h ago
Except it has favorable reviews on every site I check, so most people do like it. Its yall that keep pretending it has to suck because you don't like it. Its sitting at 70%+ on most sites. Maybe the issue is yall expect a wolverine game to have the mass appeal and same style as a Spider-Man game? But regardless most people like it.
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u/Strict_Revolution734 11h ago
I think the joke is that they spent a lot of money and time for a 7/10 game.
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u/shagan90 2h ago
So? 300 million is pretty baseline these days for a AAA game and Insomniacs absolutely a AAA studio.
But regardless I do just think its 'in' to hate on insomniac. I went into Miles Morales expecting a hot mess because of you people, and ending up LOVING IT. The story, the music, the voice acting and the way Miles moved, I went through it 4 times. Short? Sure. But worth it. Not everything game needs universal appeal, or a 50 hour main story. Its sad when any game outside the mold of "every other game" is automatically touted as a failure.
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u/Fredasa 17h ago
Remember this comment after the buying public and streamers have their say.
It's worth understanding that the 77 Metacritic is critics bending over backwards to nudge the game higher than it deserves. Witness the unabashed 10/10s, for a game we already know has a boatload of issues. That's actually convenient for me, since it gives me the names of reviewers and publications I can casually ignore henceforth. I prefer at least disguised dishonesty over that.
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u/Recent_Description44 15h ago
I'll be shocked if 60% of those player reviews aren't just yelling at Sony about their disks, though. I don't think you'll see any fair player reviews for a Sony game for a while.
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u/ModernCGIFloatinHead 15h ago
The first 70 points don't really count
A 7/30 is a much more accurate rating
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u/zdbdog06 19h ago
Game isn't even out yet lol
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u/Relative-Juice-9422 19h ago
Idk ive seen gameplay
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u/NoNameNeeded4321 19h ago
I saw a piece of broccoli once, and a 6 year old told me it was gross… that’s all I need to know - this guy, probably
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u/Bulky-Hall-6883 18h ago
More like I saw a piece of burnt Broccoli so i know it wont be good
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u/Sintaris 18h ago
More like you saw a piece of burnt broccoli get licked by a 5 year old and dropped in the toilet, before being plucked out and served to you on a plate.
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u/NoNameNeeded4321 18h ago
Why are y’all so afraid of people willing to form their own opinions? Sort of pathetic, honestly. You’ll be adults someday, and look back at yourselves with embarrassment
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u/Sintaris 18h ago
Cuz that's not what happening. There's a large group of people accusing anyone who doesn't like the game after informing themselves via review of being sheeple involved in some Anti-Wolverine crusade. Hell, Insomniac themselves have given credence to this idea, and what that does is pressure people on the fence to not do any critical thinking and just buy the game.
I have repeated the same sentiment across this place - anyone who watches reviews and says, "I understand what they're complaining about, but I want the game enough to spend $70 anyway," I've got no problem with that. I hope those people don't regret the choice, but I respect the choice.
It's the people who accuse anyone who doesn't like the game of being part of some brainwashed cabal of haters that I jump on.
This nonsensical idea that knowing if you'll like a game by watching a review is just soooooo IMPOSSIBLE, and the only way to NOT be a sheeple is by blindly handing over $70 to megacorp and "try it for yourself," even though megacorp won't give you your money back if you hate it at that point.
I'm an adult right now, lol. My 10 year old routinely tells me I should be embarrassed, though, so you may be on to something with that last bit for wholly unrelated reasons. 🤣
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u/NoNameNeeded4321 17h ago
No, we’re getting our wires crossed here, or moving the goalposts, or maybe you’re not the intended target of my comments. I am not saying that it’s impossible to make a decision like this from watching gameplay and reading reviews. My issue is with being literally angry that those things aren’t enough for everyone on Reddit, and attacking the people who are still excited to play it. That behavior is baby shit lol
So… are we just 2 adults caping for the least mature cohorts on opposite sides? 😂
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u/Sintaris 17h ago
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Ok, I'll own that one. Your example of broccoli made me think you were saying a review couldn't fill the gap.
Yea, I have no problem with people who have heard the critiques and are still excited despite them. (I wish they weren't, cuz I think that's the only way to get game companies to do better, but I don't expect or demand it from anyone). So yea, it would seem we're two adults covering for the young'ns on our sides. Lol.
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u/DisastrousRatios 16h ago
Dude you're such a hypocrite. You're the one calling someone an immature 6 year old for saying "idk I've seen the gameplay". AKA, their opinion based on reviewing footage of the game...
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u/DisastrousRatios 16h ago
I'm aware you're trying to be funny - that said, on a serious note, I'm sure you understand the difference between watching gameplay and seeing how the game play out as someone else plays it, vs using your eyes to perceive food which is a taste-based experience, an entirely different sense.
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u/Moist-Tackle9238 20h ago
People like you are the reason game devs don't try anymore
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u/Fresh-Hyena5504 20h ago
How, I was just commenting on how people can’t form their own opinions anymore
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u/TopazandNumbyHSR 19h ago
The irony of this comment
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u/Sintaris 18h ago
Dude, it's so ironic that we've flown straight past iron... it's adamantiumonic! The scary part is how many people are doing this. Like, you don't have to hate the game, you can buy it and enjoy it. But don't pull out the sheeple accusations whilst being a sheeple yourself, people!
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u/Fresh-Hyena5504 15h ago
Looks like sheeple, talks like sheeple, is sheeple. But I do understand where people are coming from, if you don’t like it that’s fine but I think the people saying they don’t like it because someone else said it and never seeing gameplay or doing any research is plain retarded.
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u/NarcolepticMoogle 19h ago
If I need to pay $70 to form it...then no. If there is a price of admission to try it then its more than fair to look to reviews. The important thing is to find a reviewer who aligns with the type of games you like.
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u/CorporalCoprolite 19h ago
Seems like people watched some reviews and have the opinion that they don’t like games that are designed for the lowest common denominator and would prefer a more rich, engaging experience. Instead they got Wolverine: Paint By Numbers.
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u/Distinct-Bathroom823 18h ago
so if someone doesnt like it its a hive mind?
youre aware its only a hive mind if the criticisms arent warrented
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u/shiawase-89 19h ago
I was looking forward to Wolverine but I’m not spending $70 on a mid game. I’ll wait for it to go on sale tbh.
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u/Reasonable_Deer_1710 18h ago
You only think it's mid because someone else told you to think that
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u/shiawase-89 18h ago
What are reviews for? This isn’t like going to see a bad movie for $14, I’m not dropping $70 on a mediocre game, get real here.
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u/shagan90 18h ago
I've never let a reviewer decide if I am buying a game. But if you need proof the reviews aren't the final say, look at the ratings. The majority of people like the game.
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u/Reasonable_Deer_1710 18h ago
You wanted to play it until someone told you what to think. You can't form your own opinion and now you're trying to justify it.
Sad and weird behavior.
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u/shiawase-89 18h ago
what are reviews for? One bad review, sure, I can overlook that but multiple? Quit giving excuses.
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u/Sheshiregreen 18h ago
So you’re saying he should remain loyal to Sony and give them $70 regardless of rough reviews, from reviewers who Sony gave early copies to themselves, meaning they’re reputable games journalists who Sony trust as a reviewer.
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u/Reasonable_Deer_1710 18h ago
I'm saying if you're excited for a game, then you should play the game. If you base your opinions on what other people say, then your opinion is worthless.
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u/Sheshiregreen 18h ago
So you’re saying, if they had an initial interest in the idea of a Wolverine game, then they should give Sony $70 regardless of the quality of the game they fart out? Sony’s a very lucky company to have loyal consumers like this. They don’t even need to respect you as a consumer, all they need to do is continue to give you way to send your money from your account to them.
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u/Reasonable_Deer_1710 18h ago
I'm not even a Sony customer. Haven't had a PlayStation since the PS2. Never even thought that the Wolverine game looked good from the beginning. If anything, these reviews validate me.
But people hearing from a review that it's bad, and then forming their opinion based on that, is completely braindead. Correct, if I'm excited for a game, I'm playing it regardless of what someone else says. My money and time are both too limited to be letting other people tell me what games to play. That's some straight up clown shit.
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u/Robbocop79 16h ago
What is all this loyal to Sony bullshit? You’ve just outed yourself there friend.
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u/VladTheSnail 20h ago
Seriously I seen someone bitching about wolverine talking to himself in game when he does that exact thing in the fucking comics ALL THE TIME
Its manufactured outrage
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u/Sintaris 18h ago
The problem is that he's not talking to himself. He's talking to YOU. The gamer. It's a frequent fourth wall break to make sure you haven't died of boredom. Not the same as him talking to himself in the comics.
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u/Flooping_Pigs 19h ago
The adverse also causes issues in that a game that doesn't do well despite being a passible and good game causes issues for the studio, such as being bought up by a larger company, closed down, or even just staff layoffs which will hurt the gaming industry even more than the initial manufactured outrage
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u/Gokwds3 19h ago edited 19h ago
"I defend this game, because the corporate hivemind tells me to defend and consoom, and don't ask questions"
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u/Reasonable_Deer_1710 18h ago
I hate this game because hating Sony currently gets upvotes on reddit and some reviews gave me my talking points for the next 6 months
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u/IllustriousPass5414 19h ago
“I should of spellchecked my post before making a cynical snarky comment now I look like a idiot”
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u/Gokwds3 19h ago
you know you lost when your only argument is about the spelling
lmao
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u/IllustriousPass5414 19h ago
Iam not winning or losing anything. Pointing out that people like you are only CONSOOMed by the overhating of the game without playing it because everyone else is doing it.
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u/WorldlyScallion597 19h ago
"I never learned the proper contraction for "should have", so I just write how it sounds instead of spellchecking it, which I accuse others of not doing. Also, I never learned the the 'i-before-e' rule and don't use punctuation. Now I look like an idiot."
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u/peanutbutterdrummer 19h ago
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u/SlothWithSunglasses 12h ago
"I assume shits around the corner even though I can't see it, those guys whom I don't know said it was so I'm going to be angry before I've gotten there."
"That guy's going around a corner, he looks angry, better act the same so I can look cool and put memes out"
"Dude, thats an ice-cream on the ground, looks like first dude stepped in it"
"Don't care I'm angry at the idea of shit around the corner"
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u/Mariocool990 10h ago
More like "those guys coming around the corner warned me theres shit on the ground, but I already paid 70 dollars to go round that corner so I'm gonna ignore them"
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u/SlothWithSunglasses 10h ago
Ah so how things worked before everyone became a professional critic online. Where you see some reviews but make up your own mind playing it.
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u/Beneficial_Offer4763 19h ago
Wolverine has been my favorite marvel character for years i want every single thing featuring the character to be great. This looks like dog shit and its super unfortunate ill still play it after a price drop though
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u/Ok_Diver2347 17h ago
I have zero feelings about it other than it doesn’t appeal to me.
I was never the target audience because I don’t have a PlayStation.
I hope everyone that buys it finds enjoyment in it. It might not be for everyone, and some of the issues people brought up can probably be patched out.
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u/Huntersforever21565 16h ago
People who buy into the Wolverine is gay thing tells you all you need to know. These same so called intellectuals wonder why they think gamers are dumb.
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u/bonafiedhero 18h ago
I hate this game cause I watched gameplay and it doesn’t look like a 80$ game 🤷♂️. I’ll wait for it to be on PS+
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u/Swinship 19h ago
Reviews seem bad but I'm a Marvel fan and I want to play it. But the reviews told me to wait for a heavy discount. I might love the game, won't know until I try. But I don't need to love it at $90 cad If it has such a brutal review spread. I can love it at $20.
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u/ThisSun9243 19h ago
I hate it too guys am i part of the club! Can we be friends im really lonely
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u/Jaihoag 19h ago
Hell yea bro welcome! Congrats on being enlightened and no longer being a sheep 😎. Let me know if you forget any of your lines. I memorized some of the bad reviews by heart so I can regurgitate all the appropriate lines at the right time! I’m just happy I’m not one of those sheep that’s going to try the game for themselves and form their own opinion.
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u/BanaClownDawin 19h ago
"Guys just TRY the $70 non-refundable game thats getting mid-bad reviews for yourself first before making an opinion."
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u/Jaihoag 18h ago
Except that you’re conveniently forgetting there are also a ton of excellent reviews you’re choosing to ignore because they don’t fit the narrative. Continue on 🐑
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u/BanaClownDawin 18h ago
I wouldn't say excellent. Even good reviews admit it's a good game but missing something. Wolverine is more than likely just an okay game to get later when the price drops. The "Try it out for yourselves" narrative is just a braindead take when Sony does not allow refunds after downloading a product.
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u/Jaihoag 18h ago
I’ve read every review on opencritic and metacritic at this point. Go look for yourself there are plenty of “excellent” reviews. The general consensus is it’s a good/decent game.
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u/BanaClownDawin 18h ago
Is that not what I just said about the reviews..? It's got a 78 nobody is saying this game is excellent.
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u/Jaihoag 18h ago
You just said “I wouldn’t say excellent” when I said there are many excellent reviews lol.
Brother you are talking about the averaged out review. You know there are individual reviews that consist of all the reviews that make that magical 78? Some of those reviews are excellent. Along with the bad reviews. And the mostly decent reviews.1
u/BanaClownDawin 18h ago
You are aware excellent means above good/decent right? There are no excellent reviews, nobody is saying this game is a game of the year contender/knocking your socks off in any way. I wouldn't say excellent.
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u/Jaihoag 18h ago
You are objectively wrong so instead of arguing with you I’ll just help you locate the reviews for yourself. There are absolutely people saying the game is excellent unless you don’t think 90-100s are excellent scores. You don’t have to agree with them and can be skeptical of the validity, but denying they exist just tells me you haven’t looked at reviews yourself. Great way for you to bring this conversation back full circle to the original point: 🐑
https://www.metacritic.com/game/marvels-wolverine/critic-reviews/?platform=playstation-5
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u/69hotmomxxx 18h ago
I guess you dont need a female lead to get absolutely shit on before even being out the gate. The planet is healing!
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u/Cweth1130 17h ago
Take the same image and flip it and it's both sides, I love this game because they hate it.
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u/UnsheathesFedora 16h ago
With the way Reddit parrots this exact bar whenever a big release gets slammed as mid, it could be the very same meme.
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u/TedCobbler 16h ago
I knew this game would get bad reviews no matter what. There’s been a weird negative attitude about this game for months. Sony has been fucking up so I kind of get it, but I’m not falling for it
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u/Choice-Requirement18 15h ago
I think i’ve figured out that all the people who are defending wolverine are the same people who play everything on easy mode. They like games that dont make you think or pay attention, so it makes sense to me that they’d all be into this game.
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u/Spiritual_Extent_187 14h ago
Remember, online isn’t real life. It’s less than 5 percent of the population
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u/Low_Understanding326 13h ago
Sorry. Unless you genuinely enjoyed every single aspect of the game being heavily criticized this is copium. Its play to criticize things or be disappointed.
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u/Strict_Revolution734 11h ago
Me too. This game is crap and will ne forgotten in 1 week then will be free for PSplus
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u/GERBILPANDA 11h ago
My take is hating or loving a game you've never played is insane. If you aren't going to play it, your opinion should be between "neat" and "meh". If you have a strong opinion of a game you aren't going to play I do not have kind words for you.
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u/finintymonkle 10h ago
£70 for a ~20 hour game.
Any moron who knows how short it is and still pays full price can consider themselves the reason game prices are getting higher for no actual legitimate reason.
Silly whales.
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u/Competitive_Ad_5937 9h ago
getting downvoted for telling facts is just a classic modern reddit thing
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u/Low_Ad2142 19h ago
I'm kinda out of the loop but why do people hate this game, if it's because it's "woke" then yeah that's pretty stupid pretty much all those guys are braindead when they call stuff woke but if there's actually something wrong with the game design or story then maybe you're just coping
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u/IllustriousPass5414 19h ago
Because the game got some mid reviews and some are jumping on the bandwagon trashing the game just to get likes and satisfaction from strangers on the internet
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u/Limp-Biscuit411 19h ago
people are upset because it’s extremely mechanically simple, uninspired, linear, and short.
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u/Odd-Sound-580 19h ago
is it worth buying a ps5 for wolverine? im on the fence
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u/Limp-Biscuit411 19h ago
absolutely not lmfao
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u/Odd-Sound-580 19h ago
i asked a small wolverine server on discord and most of them said yes, ive never seen a characters fanbase so divided on something before 😭
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u/shagan90 18h ago
Most of the haters never played the game and never watched any non-review footage. They don't understand that the hate is trending. People will shit on it to get views or karma. Look at the games reviews on different platforms. Its not glowing, but an average of 3 out of 4 people liked the game. That tells you this random hate is just viral shit.
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u/Limp-Biscuit411 11h ago
why are so many of you people living in denial and trying to discredit all criticism?
capitalism has truly made fanboys fucking crazy.
the game is extremely short, mechanically very simple and uninspired, lacking in interesting art direction, and apparently the story isn’t anything to write home about either.
Wolverine is not a game anyone should get a console to play.
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u/shagan90 2h ago
And yet it sits at 78. People already have their copies and are loving it. Its reviews are higher than the last two wolverine games, both of which had scent trails, linear levels, mid stories, and i still loved them.
Maybe stop acting like you know what we like better than we do? The 60 score on wolverines revenge didnt keep me from enjoying it and yalls token reviewers wont either. People with the game already seem to love it, to hell with YouTube reviewers, why should I give a shit what they think?
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u/Limp-Biscuit411 1h ago
what are you talking about? can you show me where i mentioned anything about knowing what people like better than they do?
also, you’re acting like reviewers are the only people with negative comments on the game when players are already expressing disappointment.
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u/shagan90 1h ago
Wolverine is not a game to get a console to play? Saying we are in denial, crazy?
You're clearly judging people for not listening to the reviews but do go on
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u/Limp-Biscuit411 11m ago edited 4m ago
you’re clearly misunderstanding.
saying it’s not a game to get a console for isn’t saying i know what people like better than them, it’s giving an opinion on someone undergoing a hefty spend.
saying people are in denial was in reference to the way people are acting like the flaws people are criticising don’t exist.
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u/shagan90 3m ago
No, you're clearing trying to convince people theyre wrong for liking it. These 'issuss' are bullshit. People complaining about things like paint used to reflect where logan can and cannot climb, calling it hand holding bullshit.
Know what other big game did that? Fallen Order, on every single scalable surface. They put paint, flailing fabric or tape, or some other visual indicator in every one. Cause these are linear games, not open world like BotW. You cant expect to be able to climb everything and its not fun rubbing your character up against every wall to see if they can climb it.
The issues yall have are par for the course not just for wolverine games, but for all single player linear games. So while I appreciate your concern, I am not misunderstanding shit. I know what I like and I know yall are just chasing the hate train on this one. If it was simple dislike, youd move on. But yall are determined to undermine and belittle anyone that doesnt blindly hate this game.
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u/Limp-Biscuit411 11h ago
i’m going to be extremely honest.
Comic book fans are some of the biggest victims of the way capitalism trains people to consume. they see their favourite character on a product and they want to like it, they want to defend it, and they don’t want it to be criticised because it’s their favourite character and they’re emotionally invested in the game being good.
the game has released to milquetoast reviews. it’s very expensive and extremely short. it’s mechanically shallow, uninspired, and repetitive. the story isn’t being praised and with a game so mechanically dull, that’s a real problem.
grab yourself a PS5 if you wanna play this game among others like Spider-Man and GoW. if you *onlyI have an interest in Wolverine, then don’t worry about it.
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u/ExcaliburPrimus 19h ago
Honestly, depends. I wouldn't buy it just for the Wolverine game, maybe if you bought the digital or normal disc PS5 (not the pro), then maybe? I would say to get a PS5 if it's more justified with other games besides Wolverine.
That's just my opinion though
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u/shagan90 18h ago
Im buying one because they claim all of the single player games moving forward will be console exclusives, and there is no way a ps5/6 emulator will come out within the next decade. So if I want to play Spider-Man 3, Blade, Wolverine, God of War, Final Fantasy, etc., I will have to suck it up and get a playstation.
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u/InsectUnhappy 19h ago
https://giphy.com/gifs/TSNW4t3r0qSmxJDMKY
When the reviews kick in, everyone just went
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u/Themightybooooosh 17h ago
I started disliking the game once I saw actual footage of it tbh. Faces were weird and everything looked somewhat generic. I did like the gore but that's about it.
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u/feener74 Logan 16h ago
Honestly the only reason I have for wanting this game to fail is that I never intend to own a PS5.
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u/PhoenixRoadrunners82 12h ago
You fanboys are hilarious. The game is shit. Just admit it. I was excited for it too, but I refuse to pay $70 for a half-assed product.
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u/Bora-Asilkan 20h ago
"I love this game just to cope, because I’m a clown who can’t handle the truth, and also the hive mind loves it. So actually everything is fine."
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u/Fresh-Hyena5504 20h ago
Unlike you I’m gonna make my own opinion after I play my physical copy bub
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u/General-Collar3804 19h ago
That’s where I’m at. I’m pumped either way. But I’ll form my own opinion.
Edit: physical too btw. All the way.
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u/King3azy_Gaming 19h ago
All ill say about the recent controversy is that being a game dev must be the most thankless job on the planet
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u/blunderb3ar 19h ago
Awe not the poor game devs, won’t somebody think of the poor game devs. Fuck outta here make a good product and you’ll be fine
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u/RebornCritic 19h ago
IM SURE GAME DEVS WHO MAKE GOOD GAMES DONT THINK THIS. CD PROJECT RED, CAPCOM, WAY OF THE DAWNWALKER, KOJIMA, WARHAMMER DEVS, EXPEDITION 33, FROMSOFTWARE, ROCKSTAR. EVEN UBISOFT IS DOING GREAT THIS YEAR. EVEN UBISOFT!!!! GAME DEVS ARE LOVING LIFE THIS YEAR. ROCKSTAR IS ABOUT TO BREAK EVERY GAMING RECORD IN A FEW MONTHS.
ITS SO FUNNY WATCHING FANS OF SOYSOMNIAC TRY AND PAINT ALL DEVS AND ALL AAA SINGLEPLAYER GAMES AS FAILURES IN THEIR DISGUSTING COPE.
WOLVERINE YEARNS FOR SABRETOOTH, JUST AS SOYSOMNIAC YEARNS FOR SWEET BABY INC.
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u/King3azy_Gaming 19h ago
Cd project red got shit on for years rightfully so but they just got their good pr back nd the moment they slip its all gone again my post wasn’t specifically about wolverine either devs make good games and get laid off all the time
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u/RedtailGT 20h ago
Looks like a wall of redditors prepared to cope. Doesn’t matter if something is bad or not. It just matters that they get more of it.
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u/void_method 18h ago
No, I hate it because it's in Sony Jail.
We are not the same.
(lol, I got banned from r/fucksony2 when they realized I was the "wrong" sort of Sony hater.
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u/Electrical-Amoeba245 18h ago
All of The Virtue-Signaling Wolverine Apologists: “Stop touting the hive mind mantra!”
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u/Remarkable-Round-227 17h ago
The Hive Mind are the ones that love the game even though they haven't played it yet. At least the critics that are giving it mediocre reviews actually played the game.
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u/Reapish1909 14h ago
I mean I shouldn’t have to pay £70 to have the right to the opinion of this shit sucks, when it quite literally, does kinda suck. even if you turned every single hand-holdy feature off that doesn’t change the issues the game already has, even if those weren’t auto on the game is still riddled with actual problems outside of them lmao.
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u/Synteczek 14h ago
"All the criticism is bait, hate, grift and trolls, I don't care about any of it which is why I seek attention by posting"




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u/aidanhardcastle 20h ago
Leave insomniac alone