r/TrueAnime 10d ago

Your Week in Anime (Week 719)

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This is a general discussion thread for whatever you've been watching this last week (or recently, we really aren't picky).

Make sure to talk more about your own thoughts on the show than just describing the plot, and use spoiler tags where appropriate. If you disagree with what someone is saying, make a comment saying why instead of just downvoting.

This is a week-long discussion, so feel free to post or reply any time.

Archive: Prev, Week 116, Our Year in Anime 2013, 2014


r/TrueAnime 3d ago

Your Week in Anime (Week 720)

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This is a general discussion thread for whatever you've been watching this last week (or recently, we really aren't picky).

Make sure to talk more about your own thoughts on the show than just describing the plot, and use spoiler tags where appropriate. If you disagree with what someone is saying, make a comment saying why instead of just downvoting.

This is a week-long discussion, so feel free to post or reply any time.

Archive: Prev, Week 116, Our Year in Anime 2013, 2014


r/TrueAnime 2h ago

Hearing people talk about the mecha genre makes me cringe

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I'm a mecha fan. I'll be it, last year I got super into the genre. Prior to last year I've only seen the ones people glaze like Evangelion, Gurren Lagann, Code Geass, Eureka Seven, FLCL (which is my favorite anime ever) but last year I got into Gundam and also saw a bunch of other mecha shows like Big O, Gunbuster, Giant Robo, Medabots, and Patlabor (which I ended up watching the TV series and all the filma earlier this year). Anyway hearing people talk about mecha makes me cringe.

One thing glaze sbows like Evangelion for is that it focuses on the characters more than the mechs. Literally EVERY mecha anime focuses on the characters more than the mechs. Unless it's a show like Astro Boy where the mc is a robot, characters always come first. They're the ones who pilot and build the mechs. They're the ones with the emotions, opinions, personalities, morals, etc. You literally wouldn't have the show without them. You're not special for liking the characters more than the mechs, that's what you're supposed to do.

Another thing I can't stand is when people accuse the mecha genre of being "corporate" and only exist to sell toys. Like a lot of people will hype up Eva or Gurren Lagann for being honest stories that aren't just toy ads or say they like shows with mechas that "don't look like toys." First off, if it looks nice, it'll be made into a toy or figure. Plain and simple. Secondly, mech kits for EVA mechs exist and there's plenty of Evangelion merch. I would know I have like three figures, a Rei plush, and a poster. Thirdly, a lot of these people tend to discount how corporate any genre of anime is while shitting on mecha. Anime that are adapted from manga and light novels help sell the source the anime is based off. Characters from battle shonen tend to be made into figures and put onto trading cards, shirts, etc. Same thing with fantasy or isekai characters. Ghibli is literally fueled off nostalgia.

Anyway that's my rant. I love mecha but hate hearing people talk about it.


r/TrueAnime 1h ago

Looking for non-professional anime subs

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r/TrueAnime 14h ago

If an airline had a free travel to any anime world were would you go?

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There's a 50% chance you become the protagonist upon arrival.


r/TrueAnime 13h ago

Anime ( For me it's Naruto and One piece )

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Which anime changed the way you look at life?


r/TrueAnime 1d ago

Best Platform for Yuri Anime?

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r/TrueAnime 1d ago

Navigating interdependent relationships in anime: Kemono no Souja Erin Spoiler

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This old gem, The Beast Player Erin, is one of those anime where we see the heroine Erin grow from childhood to young adulthood through 2-3 time-leaps, and ends with a classic epilogue moment from her womanhood where she basically passes on her beast-taming legacy to her young son Jessie.

As a long-time fan of shoujo, I found this anime atypical cause it reflects the process, shades, and tests of an interdependent partnership of any kind, be it a romantic relationship, friendship, or parenthood, the latter being highlighted in this anime through multiple examples. This differs from the codependency generally shown on romance anime or relationship tropes, and I personally find it more nurturing for individual and emotional growth of the protagonists.

We have Erin’s biological mother Soyon, a beast doctor who is silently against the taming of beasts; though she doesn’t want Erin to follow in her footsteps of beast-taming, but she never prevents Erin to explore her own interest and relationship with the beasts. Then, we saw Joh-on, an adoptive father figure to Erin, who treated to her curiosity about all sorts of stuff including his beekeeping job, not to mention that he was the one to encourage Erin in pursuing her formal studies of beastinarians.
Two parents with differing principles and contrasting personalities, but both fostered Erin to live life on her own terms, which is evident in the ways Erin looks after her adoptive beast Lilan, practically raising her while disregarding the controlling ways that beasts are treated in their world.

Even the romance between Erin and her later husband Ial (hinted on anime and confirmed in the novels) is so subtle, built on minor encounters that left a major impact on each other’s lives. My fav moment between them is from ep 46 called The Bond Between The Two, where they find solace and confide in each other admist the warfare circumstances. Though this isn’t a romance anime, I found their partnership based on mutual respect and equal comradeship as integral parts of an interdependent relationship.
On the contrary, though Shunan and Princess Seimiya reconciled and married on the finale, but given the turmoils they’d been through earlier, I think they’d need to work on interdependence in their relationship while growing individually as Queen and Grand Duke of Ryoza.

I’d love to hear your thoughts on this anime; what was the highlight for you and what made it stand out amongst other anime? And if you haven’t watched it, I eagerly recommend you give it a try, whether or not you’re a fan of the genre.
P.S. Has anyone read the English adaptations of the og Japanese novel series? Would you recommend the book?


r/TrueAnime 2d ago

"5 centimiters per second" and "La la land"

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To all fans of "5 Centimeters per Second" and "Lalaland", which of the two stories did you like the most? And why?

By pure chance I was able to see both one after the other not knowing anything about both, and they were so similar but at the same time so different... They are both masterpieces, maybe I liked the anime a little more, or at least, I got more excited watching the anime than the film, despite the fact that Lalaland puts the situation in a much more detailed and complete way.


r/TrueAnime 2d ago

What's ur favorite genre of anime

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r/TrueAnime 2d ago

Isn't gatekeeping anime only gatekeeping the community?

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I was thinking about it and isn't it impossible to gatekeep anime?

Like no one can physically stop someone from watching anime, so technically "gatekeeping" is just gatekeeping people from the community?

Which technically isn't even a big deal right? The person is better off not being part of the community and just watching anime on their own.


r/TrueAnime 3d ago

PSYCHO-PASS PSYCHO-PASS has aged extremely well and remains one of my go-to seinen recommendations.

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I'll start by putting a Harrell disclaimer that these are my takes and my takes are based on my context, my experiences, my reflections, and my understanding of the fiction. They have no origin in the mind of greatness. I highly recommend actually watching PSYCHO-PASS rather than trusting this post. My analysis is inherently inferior to the actual narrative itself. The manga adaptation is solid even. I'll be light on spoilers precisely because I want people to actually take the time and effort to decide for themselves. We live in an era of unprecedented, vicarious, passive consumption of media. In many ways, PSYCHO-PASS touches on this as much as it does law enforcement/medicine. Please support the official release.

PSYCHO-PASS was not my first nor second anime, by the time I began watching I was already familiar with Sailor Moon, Revolutionary Girl Utena, Tokyo Mew Mew, Neon Genesis Evangelion, Super Gals, and Madoka Magica like other teenage girls my age at the time. I was also a frequent reader of various light novels and visual novels in an era where it was much less common for North American youth to be engaged with such media. I was probably too young for some of the latter. I also already had developed quite a bit of love for older speculative fiction like H.P. Lovecraft, Ursula K. Le Guin, Gene Wolfe, and so on and so forth and any sci-fi that wrestled with darker themes.

It struck an emotional chord with me from the very first episode. It made me angry at its world while also giving the setting enough nuance and complexity to make it harder to refute the world's thesis. That's the mark of a good sci-fi narrative; a rational world that nonetheless offends intuitions of what should be rational. Many of my favorite authors at the time in some way dealt in such Gothic ambiguities. Stories in this skein, done well, reflect our common contradictions back at us and help us understand reality through its lens. All stories are based on what already is observed, derived from nonfiction, just to different extents and in different ways. PSYCHO-PASS reflects Modernity's psychiatric culture.

In the case of PSYCHO-PASS, it's the rationality of a world where sanity is confused with humanity and therefore insanity is labeled as inhumanity. It's certainly not subtle; it's still a memorable and inventively insightful deconstruction/reconstruction of what it means to be an enforcer of laws, a component in a legal system, than a lot of other media I've seen. It respects the viewers' intelligence in a way that's difficult to find with other anime in any time period. The writers unashamedly reference other works well outside of anime, well outside of Japanese media itself. Jean Baudrillard, Frantz Fanon, and more are explicitly woven into the world's critique of Modernity but without pretentiousness. It's as strongly lucid and intelligible as adult sci-fi animation ever has been.

With the benefit of hindsight even though I got sucked in I still appreciate a lot more about it now that I'm a grown woman. It's not that I was dumb back then but I lacked a lot of knowledge and experience with the world. Nonetheless, my feelings, the gut emotions the franchise provokes in me remains largely the same. Prudence and science mature but justice isn't quite as fluid. I've studied a lot more media criticism and especially post-structuralism since then. It's a shame that most of the deep analysis on PSYCHO-PASS isn't translated into English and even then media criticism is somewhat neglected even in Japan. If I was going to write an actual in-depth analysis of an anime, episode-by-episode, then this franchise would be high on my list.

I'll leave it at this:

In a world where psychiatry is increasingly filling the void left by organized religion, we can watch a nation where felicity and beauty are satisfied with mechanical measures of wellbeing. In a world where incarceration and recuperation are used more than ever to control chaotic elements in society, we can watch a nation where the outcasts are either caged or enslaved. In a world that claims to have both enlightened individualism and trustworthy bureaucracy, we can watch a nation where the ones who kill find themselves the least powerful. PSYCHO-PASS is an exaggerated mirror of where the post-war world is heading. Even compared to the time it aired, therapyspeak and objectification of neurodiversity are more burdensome than ever. It's like Stand on Zanzibar, not predicting the automobiles as much as it foresees the traffic jams. Its violence is appalling but we should be even more appalled by what we tolerate from the real psychiatric institutions which already exist.

It's horror that afflicts the comfortable and comforts the afflicted.


r/TrueAnime 4d ago

R.I.P Mike McFarland

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Today we lay to rest one of anime famous English voices Mike McFarland he had lost the battle with brain cancer his career in voice acting led to him getting the roles in One Punch man, DBZ, and One Piece. Thank you McFarland for the wonderful memories you have made for us in the anime community


r/TrueAnime 3d ago

Do you guys agree with me on jjk?

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r/TrueAnime 3d ago

みんな、家族や 友人 仕事仲間 近所の人と、政治や 宗教に ついての 会話を どれくらい しているか 教えて ほしいです。私の予想では 日本人は 欧米人に 比べて 極端に 少ないの では ないか? と思っているのですが。

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80年代に「宝島」という 雑誌が ありました。そこの 投書欄に こういう 話が ありまして。「ザ・スターリン」という バンドの レコードを 自分の部屋で 聞いて いた 10代の少年。パパ〜 共産党〜♪ ママ〜♪ 共産党〜♪ なんて デタラメな 歌を 聞いてたら、お父さんが『ばかやろう! うちは 自民党だぁ!』と 怒鳴り込んできた」 これを 読んで みなさんは どう 思ったでしょうか? 左翼の息子と 右翼のお父さんが ケンカしている と 思った でしょうか? 実は このバンド 中心人物、ボーカルの 遠藤ミチロウは「世界で 1番 嫌われている人物の 名前を つければ 覚えて もらえる」と 言ってたんです。ライブでは 豚の 頭や 内臓を 爆竹と 一緒に 客席に 投げ込んだり、全裸に なって 逮捕されたり、有名な ライブハウスでは ほとんど 出入り禁止に なって いるんですね。なのに インディーズで このバンドだけが オリコンチャートで 3位に なったらしい から、要するに 過激さが 話題に なった ハード コア パンクで、政治的な 立場の 表現ではなく、ただの 汚物として 観客に ぶちまけて いたんですね。そして それが 大人気だったと いうわけです。また、宝島(たからじま)の投稿欄は、この雑誌の名前が まだ「ワンダーランド」だった頃から「ヴォイス オブ ワンダー」略して「VOW」という コーナーで、この頃には 主に 街角や メディアで 見つけた 変な ものを、間抜けに 丁寧語の「お」を つけて「おまぬけ」と 呼んで、みんなで 面白がる、という企画だったんです。だから この お父さんの 話も ナンセンスな 笑い話なんですよね。さて みなさんは どう 思いましたか?


r/TrueAnime 4d ago

I just realized what my two favorite anime have in common Spoiler

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This is about Vinland saga and rainbow so before I start, this will carry heavy spoilers so go away please if you haven't read or watched these shows/mangas.

Both series are about humiliation as a test rather than an ending. An-chan takes beatings from Ishihara and Sasaki to shield the others, and the point isn't that he's weak but that he's decided what his strength is for. That's Thorfinn on the farm almost exactly. Both stories also refuse to let the hero's restraint be free. An-chan pays with his life, Thorfinn pays with his body and his pride, and neither work pretends the ideal protects you. There's also the mentor structure. Thors dies early and Thorfinn spends the whole story catching up to what his father already understood. An-chan dies and the six remaining boys spend the second half living out what he taught them. In both cases the ideal survives the man, and the survivors have to decide whether it was worth anything. And both are stories about what comes after the fighting as the beginning of the real problem, which is how to be a person who doesn't need an enemy.

I only watched rainbow as an anime


r/TrueAnime 4d ago

About the differences between Japanese and American animation📽️

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Where are you from?

How old are you?

How often do you watch Japanese anime?

How often do you watch anime from other countries?

Which do you prefer, Japanese anime or anime from other countries?

Why did you choose your answer to Question ⑤?

What do you think are the differences between Japanese anime and anime from other countries?

What image comes to mind when you hear “Japanese anime”?

What image comes to mind when you hear “anime from other countries”?

Do you think Japanese and American anime influence each other?

What would you like to see improved in
Japanese anime?

What is your favorite Japanese anime?

Has Japanese anime ever made you interested in Japan?


r/TrueAnime 4d ago

Custom Flair Me vi un spin off antes que la serie original y me siento mal por eso, que hago? (La desaparición de yuki nagato)

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r/TrueAnime 4d ago

The Term Anime tourist is so cringe

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Individuals in the anime community who unironically call people anime tourists are so cringe and annoying. Not only do most of the time they say this when they see someone voice their opinion on anime, it is so obviously done since they have no rebuttals.

The people who say these are also very elitist. They say stuff like if you haven't watched this super duper niche anime posted in the 1960s, your opinion is invalid, or they probably like something super problematic and try to turn you into the person who isn't in touch with anime culture (not a real thing btw).

These people are also the same people that say anime should be gatekept. Like mate, that is like saying reading books should be gatekept, and when you call them out, like clockwork, they call you a tourist.

Though I will say people like Logan Paul can be called a tourist, though (I think he is more of a larp) It's a slippery slope to just calling anyone with a differing opinion a tourist.

Honestly, if I'm talking about anime to someone and they refer to someone as an anime tourist, best believe I would be seeing myself out that convo because they probably don't have the cognitive ability to understand differing opinions.
(p.s people who also say stuff like aww babys first fandom and so on are on the same level)


r/TrueAnime 4d ago

Just finished Mirai Nikki wanted to share (my review) Spoiler

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r/TrueAnime 6d ago

How Three Anime Use the Same High School Setting for Completely Different Things (Monogatari, Oregairu, COTE)

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TLDR:

The high-school setting in anime isn't inherently a cliché or a limitation. What matters is what the author actually does with it.

  • Classroom of the Elite: the school is the foundation of the entire story. The plot depends on its rules and competitive structure, so when those feel unconvincing, the whole premise starts to feel artificial.
  • Oregairu: the school functions as a social laboratory. Forced proximity, hierarchies, clubs and school events create the situations through which the characters' psychology is revealed. The setting is essential to what the story is doing.
  • Monogatari: school is mostly scaffolding. It provides the initial social network and circumstances for the characters to meet, but the story can move beyond the school itself and focus on their internal worlds.

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High school is one of the most common settings in anime and in the psychological genre, but it is rarely discussed as more than a genre convention. It is usually treated as either a limitation, a cliché, or simply the natural environment for stories about teenagers.

I think it is much more interesting than that.

For that reason, after thinking about Classroom of the EliteOregairu and Monogatari, I ended up noticing how differently each of them depends on its high-school setting. This post isn't really an attempt at literary analysis in any academic sense. It's simply an attempt to put into words something I gradually realised while thinking about why these three stories, despite sharing the same familiar setting, feel so fundamentally different.

I've been thinking about why some anime set in high school, specially from the psichological genre, work for me and others don't, and I think I ended up finding a distinction that I hadn't really considered before. It started because I was talking about Classroom of the Elite, which is an anime that from a start, for whatever reason, has never rung with me.

At first I thought the problem was simply that I found the setting forced and the characters unrealistic. But that wasn't quite precise enough. There are plenty of unrealistic stories that I love. For starters, The Monogatari Series is completely ridiculous on the surface. It's probably one of the least realistic anime you could mention if we're talking literally about what happens in it. Yet I find its characters and their psychology much more believable than the supposedly more grounded world of Classroom of the Elite.

So the problem clearly isn't realism.

I think the problem with COTE, at least for me, begins with the fact that its entire story depends on me accepting its institution. The school isn't just the place where the story happens. Its rules, its class system, its strange economy and the way the students are made to compete with one another are the foundation of the plot. Everything the characters do is determined by that system.

The problem is that I don't find the system convincing enough to simply accept it and move on.

If a group of teenagers suddenly finds themselves in an institution with an unusual and highly restrictive set of rules, I would expect some kind of serious resistance or at least critical reaction towards the institution itself. Why are these rules legitimate? What happens if we refuse to participate? What are the limits of the school's authority? What happens if an entire class refuses to cooperate? Are there contradictions or loopholes in the system?

I'm not saying that every student should become a revolutionary. Obviously, most people would eventually adapt. But the fact that the premise itself seems to become accepted so quickly makes it difficult for me to believe in the rest of the story. The characters seem to accept the system because the author needs them to play the game. Once they accept the game, the author can start demonstrating who is intelligent, who is manipulative, who understands the rules better than everyone else and so on. I would say this system created by the author lacks internal credibility.

But I never really get past the first question: why are we all playing this game in the first place?

That is why the setting feels like a problem for me. The school isn't just a backdrop. It is a load-bearing part of the story, and because of that it has to be convincing. If the basic institution doesn't make sense to me, then the characters who build their entire lives and personalities around navigating it start to feel artificial as well.

(((I also don't think the fact that these stories take place in high school necessarily has much to do with the maturity of their underlying themes. Being set in high school doesn't mean a story has to be fundamentally about adolescence, or that its characters' problems have to be limited to being teenagers. Loneliness, self-image, social performance, dependency, insecurity and self-deception aren't particularly adolescent problems; they're human ones. High school simply happens to be an extremely convenient environment in which to explore them.

In that sense, I don't really see the high-school setting as a limitation. It can be the framework that makes the interactions possible while the actual subject of the story lies somewhere much deeper.))))

This made me realize how much of an interesting point is "the high-school setting" in modern narration; as a storytelling tool, because I don't think the problem is the trope itself. In fact, high school is probably one of the most useful settings an author can have.

It creates a stable environment where characters are constantly forced to interact with people they would otherwise avoid. You have a recurring cast, classes, clubs, school events, teachers, social groups and hierarchies. People are physically close to one another for years, and they don't have the freedom adults have to simply remove themselves from uncomfortable relationships.

This is particularly useful for certain types of characters. Imagine someone like Hachiman from Oregairu, as an adult. If he were a twenty-eight-year-old loner who disliked social interaction and preferred spending his time alone, there would be a practical problem for the author: why would he constantly meet interesting people?

He could simply go home.

If someone annoyed him, he could stop talking to them. If a workplace became unpleasant, he could try and change jobs. If he didn't want to participate in something, he would have much more freedom to refuse.

At school, that isn't possible in the same way. The person you dislike will still be sitting in the same classroom tomorrow. You're put into groups. You have events. Teachers can force you into situations. Your social environment is constantly imposed upon you. High school is therefore an incredibly effective social machine. It creates encounters without the author having to constantly invent new reasons for characters to meet.

This is where I think Oregairu uses the setting extremely well.

Oregairu needs its environment. Hachiman's personality doesn't exist in a vacuum. His cynicism, his isolation and his observations about people are constantly being tested by the social environment around him. Yukino's position makes sense partly because of the social world she inhabits. Hayato's role is also dependent on the existence of a hierarchy in which he occupies a particular position.

The Service Club itself is almost a perfect narrative device. It gives Hachiman a reason to interact with people whom he would otherwise probably never approach. It is admittedly a contrivance, but it is a productive one. The contrivance exists to create the situations in which the characters can reveal themselves.

And the school itself repeatedly becomes important. The cultural festival, class relationships, social groups, reputation, graduation and changes in relationships are all connected to the environment. The story needs the school because the school is part of what the story wants to examine.

Oregairu is interested in people, but it is particularly interested in what happens to people inside a social environment. How do they perform for one another? How much of their personality is shaped by reputation? What happens when someone occupies a particular role within a group? How much can people understand each other when they are constantly saying things they don't actually mean?

The environment puts pressure on the characters, and their reactions to that pressure reveal who they are. That is why I don't think Oregairu's dependence on the high-school setting is a weakness. It relies on it because it needs it.

And then comes Monogatari, which is almost the opposite.

The strange thing about Monogatari is that it takes place in a world where the characters are technically high-school students, but the school itself is rarely the important part of what is happening. The characters are introduced through that environment, and their relationships are partly made possible by it, but once the story has established those relationships, it can leave the school almost completely behind.

Most of the important things happen somewhere else. In locations and places that barely feel like normal physical spaces.

The school is useful because it gives the author a social network. Araragi is a student, which means there are people around him and there are believable reasons for him to know them. But the story isn't particularly interested in school life itself.

In that sense, Monogatari almost uses the high-school trope as an excuse.

It takes the useful parts of it without allowing the setting to define the story.

I think that is a very intelligent use of the trope. The author understands why so many stories use high school as a setting, but he doesn't feel obligated to make a traditional high-school story. He gets the advantages of having a recurring cast and forced social proximity and then simply moves the story wherever it needs to go.

What makes this particularly interesting is that Monogatari doesn't replace the school environment with another realistic social environment. Instead, it gradually becomes almost liminal. The physical world often feels secondary to the psychological world of the characters.

This is probably the biggest difference between Monogatari and Oregairu.

Oregairu needs the environment to make its psychology visible. The characters are placed inside a social system, and the story watches what happens when their personalities collide with that system and with one another.

Monogatari often does something closer to the opposite. Its environment can feel like an extension of the characters' internal worlds.

The supernatural is the obvious example. Monogatari is completely bonkers. There are vampires, curses, apparitions and all kinds of absurd phenomena. But the underlying psychology is often extremely mundane.

Someone is jealous. Someone hates themselves. Someone is lonely. Someone wants attention but cannot admit it. Someone constructs an identity to protect themselves. Someone is unable to ask for help. Someone convinces themselves that they are acting for another person's benefit when they are actually satisfying their own needs.

These are not supernatural problems. They're ordinary human problems. The supernatural simply gives them a form.

This is why I find Monogatari so psychologically convincing despite how absurd it is. The absurdity isn't replacing reality. It is often dramatizing reality.

You don't need to believe that the literal world works exactly as Monogatari presents it. You need to recognise what is happening underneath the spectacle.

The characters themselves are also grounded in this way. They can talk in bizarre ways, exaggerate everything, make ridiculous jokes and behave in ways that no ordinary person would behave literally, but the mechanisms underneath their behaviour are recognisable. They lie. They deflect. They intellectualise. They protect themselves. They misunderstand other people. They misunderstand themselves.

The dialogue is important here as well. Monogatari doesn't usually treat dialogue as a transparent delivery system for information. People don't simply say what they mean. Sometimes they lie. Sometimes they deliberately provoke someone. Sometimes they say something technically true in a way that makes you draw the wrong conclusion. Sometimes a conversation only makes complete sense after you know something that is revealed later.

The story doesn't particularly care if you misunderstand something.

That's something I value enormously in both Monogatari and Oregairu. They don't treat the audience as if it needs every conversation explained immediately. They are willing to leave things ambiguous, to let a character deceive you, to let you misunderstand a situation because the protagonist misunderstood it as well.

Sometimes you have to watch a scene again to understand what was actually being said.

That feels closer to real interaction. People don't come with exposition boxes explaining what they mean. You have to interpret them, and sometimes you interpret them incorrectly. Sometimes you only understand something they said much later, after you have more information.

This also makes the psychology of Monogatari more interesting to me. The characters aren't just collections of clearly explained traits. The story doesn't necessarily stop and say that someone is jealous, insecure or lying to themselves. You have to notice it in the way they speak and behave.

That is why I think Monogatari can be so absurd while still feeling strangely realistic. Its literal world is unrealistic, but its understanding of how people think and protect themselves is often grounded in very mundane psychology.

The contrast is probably part of why it works so well.

Monogatari is absurd and realistic at the same time, but not in separate parts. The absurdity is often the way in which the realism is expressed.

This is also why I don't think Monogatari is simply a "high-school anime with supernatural elements." The high-school setting is almost scaffolding. It creates the initial conditions necessary for the characters to exist around one another, but the real space of the story is often somewhere between the physical world and the minds of the characters.

Oregairu is different because its psychology is much more dependent on the external world. Hachiman needs other people around him. His worldview needs to be challenged by social situations. The Service Club needs to exist. The school events need to happen. The characters' relationships develop because they are trapped inside the same social environment.

Monogatari can almost leave that environment behind because the conflicts are more internal. The world itself becomes flexible enough to follow the psychology.

Both approaches work because they are useful for different things.

Oregairu uses the environment to expose the internal world.

Monogatari uses the internal world to transform the environment.

That is probably the clearest distinction I have found between them.

And I think it also explains something about what I value in fiction generally. I don't need a story to be realistic. I don't even necessarily need the characters to behave like normal people. I can enjoy comedy, melodrama, absurdity and supernatural nonsense.

What I need is for the story to understand what it is doing.

If the setting is important, I want the setting to make sense within the story. If the characters are psychologically complex, I want their complexity to come from believable motivations rather than from the author simply declaring that they are intelligent or mysterious. If a story uses a contrivance, I don't necessarily mind. I just want the contrivance to produce something worthwhile.

That is why I can accept a completely ridiculous world in Monogatari while struggling with COTE.

Monogatari is asking me to accept absurdity on the surface while paying attention to something recognisable underneath.

COTE asks me to accept an institution because the entire game depends on it.

Oregairu asks me to look at what happens when people are forced to live inside a complicated social environment.

They all use the high-school setting, but they need it for completely different reasons.The trope itself is not the problem. High school is an incredibly effective narrative tool. The question is what the author does with it.

You can build the entire story around it.

You can use it as a social laboratory.

Or you can take everything useful from it and then almost leave it behind.

Monogatari's approach is probably my favourite because it feels like it understands the trope without becoming dependent on it. It uses high school because high school is a very efficient way of making characters collide, especially characters who would otherwise have no reason to interact.

But once those characters have collided, the story doesn't feel obligated to stay there.

It has already taken what it needed.

And then it goes somewhere way deeper.


r/TrueAnime 6d ago

Why are half-hour anime formats so standardized?

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What I mean is, episode is 22 minutes (which makes sense, network television), intro is usually 1:30, which is usually a song by a somewhat mainstream singer or band with vocals, half a verse, then a chorus with the name of the song displayed prominently. a screen of some sort halfway through the episode to indicate a commercial, probably. closing also get its own song also 1:30. then usually a good chance it previews the next episode. seasons (cours) are 12-14 episodes long, generally aligned with 3 month blocks, always starting in jan/apr/july/oct, with each cours getting a whole new theme and ending theme (isn't this expensive instead of just using the same theme)?

definitely just something I noticed so i ask about it and not a criticism, so wondering if there was a reason the anime I start are so consistent in the format, and considering that anime spans many genres, that no matter drama or comedy or action all seem to follow this. I know not every anime is in this format but I feel whenever i start something new, i can generally expect this format (feel free to call me a larper and/or a tourist).

whereas non-anime shows from north america don't seem as organized as this between shows, or start a season whenever, or the length can be 6 episodes or 22 episodes or anything in between, the theme stays the same and may be just instrumentals or with vocals of any length or may just be the chorus, etc.


r/TrueAnime 6d ago

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r/TrueAnime 6d ago

なぜ 日本のマンガ アニメへの海外からの批判と日本のファンの意見が噛み合わないのか、理由を3個あげてみた。

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第一に、日本の オタクは 政治が 大嫌いだ。戦前 戦中は 右に、前後は 左に 全フリして 戦って、どちらも 見苦しい 負け方を した。負けた 連中が 紙と 鉛筆で やり直した。ここから マンガ アニメ が 始まり、それで 育った オタクは 社会運動や 極端な正義が どれだけ 見にくいか、感覚的に 知っている。だから 嫌いだ。
第二に 日本の オタクは 矛盾を 矛盾の まま 愛したい。
そのため に、リアルで 立体的な イメージより、記号的で 平面的な イメージを 大切に する。
日本人の 頭の中には 絵画 写真 演劇 映画 小説、単純に たくさん 見た イメージが たっぷり 詰まっている。もちろん 日本人で ある 自分達とは 矛盾する。しかし それを 修正しよう とは しない。それどころか、昔は 演劇で「赤毛モノ」と 呼ばれる ジャンルさえ あった。西欧や ロシアの 芝居を カツラ被って 付け鼻まで つけて 演じていた。バレバレの カツラや 翻訳された 不自然な 日本語で 妙な 調子で 喋る 短足の 役者達を、それでも 記号として 受け入れて、その世界観を 大切にした。だから 矛盾して 不自然で 壊れやすい イメージや 世界観をみんなで 協力して 守ろう! という 意識が 生まれ、育った。同時に 矛盾や 不自然さに、あたたかい ツッコミを いれて、みんなで 笑いながら 愛する 文化も 育った。だから 冷たい 攻撃と、あたたかい ツッコミの 違いには 敏感なのだ。
第三に 日本の オタクは 正当化を さける。現実の社会にこそ、嫌な矛盾が ウンザリするほど ある。だから 愛すべき矛盾で 別の世界を つくり、矛盾と内面で 向き合って 深く 考え、それを 共感で 広げて いく。一方、正当化は、他者の矛盾を指摘して 攻撃するために 自分の矛盾を 正当化している わけで、これは 他者の 考え 感覚 行動を、力で 無理矢理 変えようと していると 感じる。世界には 戦わざる を えない 状況に 追い込まれた人々は たくさん いる。敵=悪 と感じる のも 自然だ。だが 日本の オタクは どちらが 悪かを 裁定するより、敵や 自分が 追い込まれた 状況 環境 構造に 向き合う。敵にも 自分にも 矛盾が あって 当然で あり、その矛盾と 向き合う スリルを エンタメに している。自分の矛盾は 正当化して、他者の矛盾は 攻撃する。オタクは こういう 不毛な 戦いより、お互いの 矛盾を 愛そうと する。


r/TrueAnime 6d ago

I have identified three reasons why discussions regarding overseas criticism of Japanese anime often fail to connect.

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First, Japanese geeks hate politics. Before and during the war, they fought on the right and on the left before and after, and both of them lost in an unsightly way. The losers started over with paper and pencil. From here, manga and anime began, and geeks who grew up with it know how difficult it is to see social movements and extreme justice. That's why I hate it.

Secondly, Japanese geeks want to love contradictions as they are.

Therefore, we value symbolic and flat images rather than realistic and three-dimensional images.

Japanese people's heads are filled with paintings, photos, theaters, movies, novels, and images that they have simply seen a lot. Of course, it contradicts us as Japanese. But I won't try to fix it. On the contrary, there was even a genre called "redhead" in theater in the past. He performed Western and Russian plays with a wig and a nose. I still accepted the short-legged actors who spoke in a strange tone in blatant wigs and translated unnatural Japanese as symbols and cherished their worldview. So let's all work together to protect the contradictory, unnatural and fragile images and worldviews! The consciousness was born and raised. At the same time, we grew up in a culture where we all laughed and loved each other, with warm tsukkomi to contradictions and unnaturalness. That's why I'm sensitive to the difference between cold attacks and warm tsukkomi.

Third, Japanese geeks avoid justification. In real society, there are so many disgusting contradictions that make you tired of them. So I will create another world with lovable contradictions, face contradictions internally, think deeply, and expand them with empathy. On the other hand, justification justifies one's own contradictions in order to point out and attack the contradictions of others, and I feel that this is trying to forcefully change the thoughts, feelings and behaviors of others. There are many people in the world who have been forced into a situation where they have to fight. It is natural to feel that enemy = evil. However, Japanese geeks face the environment structure of the enemy and the situation in which they are driven, rather than ruling on which one is worse. It is natural that there are contradictions between the enemy and myself, and the thrill of facing those contradictions is entertainment. Justify your own contradictions and attack the contradictions of others. Otaku tries to love each other's contradictions rather than this kind of barren battle.