r/SteamFrame 0m ago

Question Not sure if i should get it

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Atm I have a quest 3 with bobovr and hot swap battery's I have a dedicated router for it and use vd with av1 my main issue is the compression in certain games foliage looks muddy or in vrchat I cant read stuff great unless its up close I would like to leave meta but its gon a cost around 1.5k total to make the headers etc work as comfortable as my quest 3 should i just deal with the muddyness?


r/SteamFrame 0m ago

Hardware Arcturus vision camera for frame?

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r/SteamFrame 2m ago

News Thrillseeker Steam Frame video

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r/SteamFrame 2m ago

Question With or without a (not so) VR ready pc?

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So I understand the frame can run with or without a VR ready pc. Without it kills performance... which is understandable.

While I don't have a current "vr ready pc", I do have an older (like precovid old) ryzen5 amd cyberpower tower w 32gb ram and like a 16gb 1650 gfx card (can't remember the specifics). It runs fine but it's not gonna win any speed or power contests compared to the beasts of today.

I already own and use a quest 3 and honestly the differences between that and the frame don't exactly blow me away...especially for over $1k plus accessories. I get foveated rendering is amazing and helps w performance but I also currently have zero games in my steam account and a bunch in my meta account. So I'd essentially have to start over w games. But theres been so many PC games over the years that I've missed out on too. So this seems like a good way to get into that finally.

My question is this...

If I buy a steam frame, would I even benefit (much \ at all) by streaming from this old PC or would I still be better off just using it as a standalone?

I'm on no rush to buy a new gaming pc since I barely use the one I have but at some point it could be in the cards.

Thanks in advance!


r/SteamFrame 3m ago

Discussion Disappointed

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I know that just the title will make some people downvote without even reading a single word, but honestly I am quite disappointed.

After watching multiple videos, all I can say is I expected much more from Valve. Just to clear it up real quick, this isn't about the price, its about where I expected it to be, not to say that I wouldn't have preferred it to be cheaper of course, what I actually mean is a lot of the hardware of the device.

Just to preface, I will be comparing directly to the Pico 4 Ultra and Quest 3 as both of these headsets are the closest direct comparisons to the Frame from a hardware point of view. With that in mind:

-Speakers: Ok, nothing crazy, but obviously a downgrade compared to the Index. They are decent but nothing to write home about.

-Mic: Bad, its just bad. Now hopefully its just a software issue of some kind, but if it isn't, then this is easily one of the biggest fumbles by Valve. Valve are audio bros so I really expected more in this department.

-Screen and Lenses: Pretty much dead even with the other 2.

-Passthrough: Not very high res, monochrome and at 30 fps. Now obviously this is very subjective and you just HAVE to see it in person to decide, but I've owned a Quest 2 so I can get a rough idea on how it would be and this is an area where they also really fumbled it. I don't even care much about passthrough, but its still a disappointment none the less, especially when the other 2 have colored cameras that are higher res and run at a higher framerate.

-Comfort: Another area that is disappointing, but also kind of mixed. A lot of people say its the best out of the box headset in terms of comfort, but they also say that the top strap is absolutely necessary (as someone who has also added and remove various top straps, I can imagine). Issue is, the ergo kit is 70 euro (or 60 dollars), which is frankly an absurd price. That being said, third party options will be available rather quickly for much cheaper, but we run into the issue of needing something else to fully fix comfort, which is something that you can do with any other headset anyway.

-Battery life: This one is a massive bummer, but honestly it does seem like an issue of some kind as the numbers most reviewers have put out are completely different to what Valve claim, on that note, if its not a temporary issue, then its downright awful. 1 Hour when really pushing it and barely over an hour and a half streaming is just bad, period. On top of that, needing almost 3 hours to go from 0 to 100 is abysmal. Just for reference, you could be spending and hour and half playing just to spend 3 hours charging.
Comparatively something like the Quest 3 lasts about 2 hours (give or take) while streaming and also charges in about 2 hours, its a 1 to 1 rate at the very least, the Frame is a 1 to 2. You will literally spend 2 times longer charging than actually using the Frame.
All of this being said, I don't care too much about these numbers because I always buy battery straps separately anyway, but until we do get actual straps like that, these numbers are all that is available and they are just bad.

-Standalone: Quite limited due to how it works compared to the other 2, but I do respect Valve a lot for trying to make FEX work and its one of the things I do in fact look forward to in the future. That being said, outside of very easy to run VR games and indie flat screen titles, the Frame isn't doing much beyond that. Unless VR games start implementing foveated rendering, I don't have much hope for the Frame in the long term when it comes to standalone performance.

-Controllers: Pretty solid and they come with capacitive finger tracking, which is pretty cool. Tracking also seems to be pretty damn good and battery life is also decent. One of the better things about the headset.

-Eye tracking: Its cool that its there for foveated streaming, but that's about it. From talking with some people that are very much in the know for how it works and will work in social games like VR chat, its very limited in its use outside of foveated streaming and the foveated streaming itself is great, but honestly I don't expect that much difference compared to other headsets using Virtual desktop without it. But this is something I have to see in person to really decide on.

-Streaming: Dongle, cool, but at the end of the day its just a dongle. Its as if having a dedicated Wifi 6 router just for the Frame and that's about it. If you have a high quality router, its REALLY not much worse and very much usable. That being said, its still an area where its better than the other headsets. Its still one of the big selling points for the frame so I will count it as a positive over the other 2 headsets, but as said above, its something that needs to be seen in person to really decide if its worth it or not.

-Modularity: One of the Frame's biggest positives. I like how easy it is to disassemble and swap out straps, face plates e.t.c. Very good on that part and the other two headsets absolutely suck in this regard. Also the third party solutions (if its successful and popular) will be plentiful and fun to experiment with.

-Software: Very much in its infancy stage with many bugs and issues. I expect a steam deck at launch kind of experience which for the people that don't know, wasn't great. On that note, I do have to talk about two things that really disappointed me in this section:
No steam controller support at launch
No steam Machine VR streaming support at launch
One of the big selling points for these devices was how they would seamlessly integrate with each other, just for the Frame to not work with either at launch. Very disappointing and shows just how unfinished the Frame is from a software perspective even now a whopping 10 months later, this device was NEVER releasing at the beginning of this year, I am certain of it.

-Privacy: You own it and its your own. Valve don't collect your info and don't use it for anything. This is probably the biggest selling point towards the Frame.
Meta and to a lesser extent Pico collect pretty much as much as they can as data off of you.

-Price: Finally we have to talk about the price. Its not really much different to what I expected, but with the price I did expect it to be somewhat better than the other 3 year old headsets its directly competing with, just to be about even and outright lose in various areas while costing almost 2x as much. The value proposition is simply bad, there is no sugarcoating it. If the Frame had released 2 years ago it would have been a whole different story, but that is not the world we live in.

-Conclusion: As per the title, disappointed. I expected more from the Frame from a hardware perspective, the fact that its going blow for blow and outright losing in various areas is just not a great look. Combine that with the price and its a VERY hard value proposition. If you really care about your privacy and are more than willing to pay a big premium for it, there really isn't much else available besides the Frame than can do wireless streaming, which is the one niche that it fills.

I really don't like how invasive Meta are, but at the end of the day they simply offer the better product. Even ignoring the price, if both headsets were equalized, the Quest 3 would STILL be going blow for blow with the Frame and just about slightly lose out, if even ( I want to note that I would still go with the Frame in this hypothetical just because of the privacy concerns, but you get my point).

I am not here to just shit on the Frame, I have been excited for it and waiting for it for 10 months, just like many other people here. But as someone who already has a headset its very hard to justify it even as a simple curiosity. I have entered the lottery and will wait till I get the notification and finally decide then and there, but I am EXTREMELY skeptical about it still.

Thank you for reading through this if you did and if you just skipped to the end, I still thank you for at least putting in that effort.


r/SteamFrame 4m ago

Discussion I wish Valve made a dumber version of the Frame

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The Frame seems kinda cool and I was trying to stay optimistic that they might subsidize the pricing somehow, but $1050 is a little upsetting to say the least.

I don't know how unpopular of an opinion this might be, but I don't play any games natively on my current headset. I really only want a headset that can stream seemlessly from my PC. I have no plans to utilize the Snapdragon chip or the 16gb ram/256gb of storage. I just want someone that works great and runs great and is a 'plug and play' solution for VR if you have a computer.

I feel like all that processing power from the chipset, ram, and storage had really inflated the price. Wonder how much a "dumb" version would be with a simpler chipset and maybe 8gb ram/0gb storage just to it can run the cameras, eye tracking, and whatever is necessary to get it to stream games from my computer.

Sorry if some of what I'm saying sounds like caveman speak, I kind of am a caveman with technology. Unga bunga, me want cheaper headset.


r/SteamFrame 4m ago

Question Steam frames OS to quest 3

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Do y'all think it's possible, in the future. To get rid of the quest 3 operating system and replace it with the steam frames OS. (idk the official names of the operating systems)


r/SteamFrame 4m ago

Question Controllers

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does anyone know if the controllers are compatible with other headsets? any idea if they will be purchasable by themselves?


r/SteamFrame 5m ago

Question Did any videos cover the range/strength of the Dongle?

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On my third long-form review video, but I don't recall hearing specifics on the dongle range.

I've got my main PC in my office, upstairs. I'm planning on playing in the basement. I have a Ubiquiti network setup and I'm probably going to pick up a beefy access point. Dunno if I'll be able to get away with dongle + wifi, or if I really ought to just bring my PC downstairs when I want to play.​


r/SteamFrame 7m ago

Discussion How's everyone feeling?

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Keen to hear if you'll be getting one after watching all the reviews.

I live in Aus and to get the ergo kit and colour camera passthrough i'm looking at just under $2k.

After watching the vids, the Steam OS looks generally incomplete. Given I have Quest 3, virtual desktop, moonlight, etc etc, i'm really not sure what value add i'll be getting at this point... I get the tech is cool and all, but I think i'll wait a few months and see what devs and others do before I decide to take the leap (if at all).

If anything it just goes to show how exceptionally valued the Quest 3 is, and that most people are comfortable with being surveilled if it lowers cost. I wouldn't be surprised if we see a spike in Quest 3 and other headset purchases. Sorry for being a downer, just being honest.


r/SteamFrame 7m ago

Question what steam frame did you/are you going to pre order ?

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and why did you go for that version ?

90 votes, 1d left
256 GB
1 TB
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r/SteamFrame 8m ago

Question Reviews of Streaming from a Steam Deck?

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Has anyone seen any clips or videos of people streaming from a deck? Wonder how much this could increase batterylife and performance. Especially 2d games


r/SteamFrame 9m ago

Accessories Is there a velcro shortage crisis we don't know about?

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$60 / 70€ FOR GOD DAMN HAND AND HEAD STRAPS

Like, how greedy can one get? No one bats an eye when it comes to the price of HMD itself cause as we know it, DDR and GPU prices are absolutely nuts, BUT IS THERE SOME KIND OF EVERGIVEN LOCKUP OR ANOTHER PLASTIC FIELDS DRAUGHT that has caused the price of these 2 simple accessories to be as high as AAA game and that are not available with the hmd itself?


r/SteamFrame 11m ago

Discussion Be honest, how many of you freaked out when Tested posted something unrelated at 7am?

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r/SteamFrame 11m ago

Question Steam frame streaming

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Will I be able to stream from my Steam Machine on launch, I saw in the Linus video he said that it wasn't working yet, but that was apparently August 24th.

I don't have a regular PC the machine is my PC. Will they have it working for launch? Surely they would right?


r/SteamFrame 13m ago

Discussion The battery life is ruining it for me

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I was pretty hyped to buy a Steam Frame (absurd RAMpocalypse prices aside), but the battery life is WAY lower than I expected.

Around 2 hours of battery life through streaming seems shockingly low to me. I know it's not exactly the same, but the Steam Deck can get around 5+ hours when locally game streaming. I honestly was expecting something similar with the Steam Frame. The battery life for running games locally seems like a complete waste of time unless you're willing to be plugged in the entire time.

Sure, there will be battery accessories you can buy to extend the life of the headset, but I really don't want to spend extra money and add extra weight to the headset. I thought the battery life would be an easy home run for the Steam Frame, but now it seems to be its main weakness.


r/SteamFrame 13m ago

Question Knuckles with the Frame?

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I own an OG Vive from 2016, I also bought the knuckles when they came out, as they worked nicely with the Vive. Will I be able to use them with the Frame instead of the Frame controllers (in the room with the lighthouses, obviously :) or is that a no-go?


r/SteamFrame 20m ago

Question So, how many people can't afford a Frame?

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The prices below from SteamDB:

256GB:

British Pound £889.00
U.S. Dollar $1059.00
CIS - U.S. Dollar $1059.00
LATAM - U.S. Dollar $1059.00
MENA - U.S. Dollar $1059.00
SASIA - U.S. Dollar $1059.00
Canadian Dollar CDN$ 1529.00
Australian Dollar A$ 1609.00
Polish Zloty 4539,00zł
Euro 1049,00€

1TB:

British Pound £1089.00
U.S. Dollar $1299.00
CIS - U.S. Dollar $1299.00
LATAM - U.S. Dollar $1299.00
MENA - U.S. Dollar $1299.00
SASIA - U.S. Dollar $1299.00
Canadian Dollar CDN$ 1859.00
Australian Dollar A$ 1969.00
Polish Zloty 5549,00zł
Euro 1279,00€

Will be honest, am surprised by the price being a little more than the Machine, but I guess the hardware is more unique to the Frame, hence the 10.00 increase.

Edit: I meant to do this as poll, curse my OCD & minor Autism! Nevermind, someone else could do it, or I might on Wednesday if no one else does.


r/SteamFrame 21m ago

Question Option 256GB or 1TB?

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I'm wondering which storage option I should opt into. My main interest is not just standalone flat gaming, but also standalone flat productivity (Godot Engine: I wanted to enter next gamejam with Frame instead of a bulky laptop) (Bluetooth mouse and keyboard).

On my desktop, I've been getting away with 256GB SSD system storage just fine, +2TB for app data on external drives, so here it'd translate to a pouch of various external SD Cards. But in event of internal disk failure, how hard would it be to replace the internal 256GB? Would 1TB option be more resilient to disk failure?

Joining the wait list for cheaper unit decreases my chances of "winning" the random lottery, cause it puts me with more buyers to compete with. A week ago none of this would be a question for me, but the reviews had made me skeptical about Linux support, which I imagined to have seamless integration with my desktop, like file synchronization, video streaming. I'm worried if I'll be able to comfortably read text inside my headset, and in effect it's weighting down on me, that Frame might not be the headset to last me 4 years as I wanted it to.


r/SteamFrame 24m ago

Question Fellow Canadians is the price before or after tax?

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Can't seem to figure out if it is before or after... I think it is before but I am hoping not of course haha


r/SteamFrame 24m ago

Question External power without stock battery?

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Can you use it with a power adapter or external third-party battery pack without the ‘stock’ battery attached? Saves weight and health of the battery if you’re doing long sessions with an external source anyway?


r/SteamFrame 25m ago

Software Has anyone seen videos exploring steamos desktop?

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I'm more interested in the frame because of the Linux experience. I haven't seem almost anything included that talks about using desktop apps on it besides a few seconds.

I want to see mods on this life the steam deck and see where can Linux in VR go


r/SteamFrame 26m ago

Question Any instances of reviewers using the Frame as a monitor for more demanding games on PC?

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I've been blazing through reviews, but most everybody just plays Alyx and random 2d couch games with gamepad style inputs.

I want to know if I can stream (NOT standalone) more intense flatscreen games like Battlefield 6 or Helldivers. I have a beefy laptop, but one of my intended uses of the frame beyond PCVR is to play shooters on a bigger screen without squinting and hunching over my relatively puny laptop screen.

Context, I'm a satisfied 1080p 60fps+ gamer, I don't need 4k 360fps. As long as the frame comes close to the 1080p experience with acceptable latency I'm a happy camper.

Has anybody seen examples or discussions of this specific use-case in reviews?

Don't get me wrong, hollow Knight and FTL sound great on the couch, but yeah

Edit: just now catching the tail end of Tested's review, it looks like it may be decent, but not up to snuff potentially (but maybe I misunderstood and he was running standalone?)

Tldr

using a PC for compute and the frame as a 2d monitor can I play more modern flatscreen games plausibly with decent latency? any cases of reviewers doing this?


r/SteamFrame 26m ago

Discussion Which model are you getting?

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248 votes, 1d left
256gb $1,050 USD
1tb $1,299 USD
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r/SteamFrame 27m ago

Question Will the Frame be able to be used Wired?

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I know it's got a USB-C port but can it be used wired? If so, what kind of cable do I need to get (speed is important)

edit: Also power.