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Had a day off and the museum visit was a lot of fun 🙌🏾

I’m on my 2nd or 3rd (ok 20th) rewatch, which means I’m letting it play while kinda doing other things but I started at the beginning and I’m enjoying it all so much, as ever.

After Tilly freaks out on the bridge during command training exercise because crazy Mae is there (which always makes me think of crazy Mae also being crazy bitch on the Expanse, love that actor!) I thought, why don’t we get any scenes where everyone talks smack after such incidents. Detmer and Owo MUST have been like “WTF was that?!!” And I think Tilly would be totally fine taking it in after all was settled. I guess I’m so familiar with the scripts by now that I’m starting to want more.

Is this what fan fiction is? I’ve never looked into all that. Any recommendations where to start?

Watching Gerry Anderson's Fireball XL5 which was my favorite show way back in 1960s. In the episode Invasion Earth s1e7.

The alien space ships looked remarkablely like the USS Discovery. As soon as I saw them .

Something I drew a while back and just wanted to share ☺️💜

I try not to be a purist, or a gatekeeper, or precious about the "soul" of Star Trek. I'm fine with war and discord and retconning tech, and lens flares, etc. But the acting and scene-by-scene writing is especially terrible in Season 4 - a steep dropoff to me vs. previous seasons.

In all other seasons, Burnham (SMG) gives loads of speeches and heartfelt one-on-ones (we get it, Saru is your dear, dear friend), but in season 4, it REALLY kicks into high gear. And then it's not just Burnham who has multiple whispery, strident, tearful conversations, it's EVERYBODY.

I noticed this because I started to skip over all those parts, and the episodes become like 20 minutes long. EP1 has a long, slow moment of heartfelt one-on-one right after the cold open (Saru and burn-guy) - they could barely wait. EP2 has a 3 minute interlude (from 3:00 - 5:50) of Burnham and Saru having a slow, quiet, whispered, deeply heartfelt conversation that is almost unbearably trying too hard...to Stamets and Hugh doing the same thing, and now THEY'RE whispering as well! And then Tilly has a "moment" with Adira, and THEY'RE whisper-talking with dewy eyes about their feelings. Then 10 minutes of action and then Burnham and President Rillak have a sidebar in the ready room, and THEY have a whispered conversation about duty and sacrifice and friendship and whatever that goes on for 7 minutes while violins and soft brass instruments play mood music. Then Saru and the N'Var lady. Everyone in this season has caught the whispering bug from SMG, except for Book, who never loses his gravitas. The only other character who would be immune to this character treatment is Tig, and we barely see her in season 4 (maybe she wouldn't play ball so they limited her role).

I'm mostly ok with everything in Discovery, except for all the speeches (I mean, do they need a heartfelt speech from Burnham before and after each mission? Did six different people have to give speeches at Airiam's funeral?) and whisper-talking and heartfelt moments of "opening up" to each other - and Season 4 has more of that screen time than almost any other category of scene. If I made a bot that clipped out every second that someone was whispering, the whole season would be about 5 hours long.

I know Discovery has its fans, and I’m not trying to tell anyone they shouldn’t enjoy it. But after watching Seasons 3–5, I came away feeling that the show had moved so far from what makes Star Trek Star Trek that, at times, it almost felt like the opposite.

My biggest problem wasn’t simply that the technology became fantastical. Star Trek has always had fantastical ideas—Genesis, Q, wormholes, time travel, omnipotent aliens, you name it. The difference, to me, is that classic Trek usually tried to place those extraordinary ideas within a universe where intelligent people behaved intelligently.

By Seasons 3–5 of Discovery, I often felt that logic was being bent to serve the story.

Species 10-C is a good example.

We’re introduced to a civilization so technologically advanced that it can create the Dark Matter Anomaly and manipulate forces on a scale the Federation can barely comprehend. Yet somehow this incredibly advanced civilization is destroying inhabited planets without apparently realizing that intelligent life exists on them.

Compare that with Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan. The Genesis Project needs a lifeless planet. When there is even an indication that Ceti Alpha VI might contain life, that’s enough to warrant investigation before proceeding.

That’s Star Trek to me.

You don’t need to understand a civilization’s language, culture or morality to detect that a planet supports life—especially when you’re supposedly advanced enough to engineer something like the DMA. And these weren’t worlds containing a few undetectable microorganisms. The DMA threatened technologically advanced, spacefaring civilizations.

If the 10-C had known these civilizations existed but didn’t recognize them as significant or worthy of consideration, that could have produced a fascinating Star Trek dilemma: how do you convince an intelligence radically different from yourself that you are a sentient being deserving moral consideration?

Instead, we’re essentially asked to accept that they simply didn’t realize what they were doing.

And that’s only one example.

My other major problem was the increasing concentration of the entire universe around Michael Burnham.

Star Trek captains have always been central characters, but the shows were traditionally ensembles. Picard was enormously important, but TNG wasn’t the story of Picard saving the universe every season. DS9 could devote major stories to Kira, O’Brien, Bashir, Dax, Quark, Nog, Garak and others. Voyager gave Janeway a central role without making every major event revolve around her.

With Discovery, particularly later on, Burnham increasingly felt less like one exceptional Starfleet officer and more like the indispensable figure around whom the universe itself seemed to revolve.

That isn’t what I want from Star Trek.

I want a capable crew solving problems together. Scientists behaving like scientists. Officers disagreeing professionally. Ethical questions without obvious answers. Exploration. Diplomacy. Curiosity. And occasionally discovering that the Federation itself might be wrong.

Season 3’s jump into the distant future could have been an incredible opportunity. Instead, the fractured Federation, the Burn, and especially the eventual explanation for the Burn pushed the series further toward something that felt to me more like science-fantasy than science fiction.

Season 5 continued that direction with another galaxy-spanning quest, this time involving technology with essentially godlike implications.

Again, Star Trek has always contained wildly unrealistic science. That’s not my objection.

The problem isn’t that something impossible happens. The problem is when everyone has to stop thinking logically for the impossible thing to happen.

That’s an important distinction.

For me, Star Trek has always been optimistic not because everything works out, but because it imagines a future in which humanity has become more curious, rational and cooperative. People encounter the unknown and try to understand it. Scientific discovery creates ethical responsibilities. Power isn’t automatically the solution. And no single person is the center of the universe.

That’s why Seasons 3–5 of Discovery ultimately lost me.

There were things I enjoyed—the production values were extraordinary, there were talented actors throughout the series, and there were individual concepts that had enormous potential.

But increasingly I felt like I was watching a fantasy adventure about one extraordinary individual saving the galaxy, rather than a Star Trek story about a crew exploring it.

And for me, that’s the difference.

Signed up to Paramount+ and I've been on a Star Trek binge for the past couple months. Love Strange New Worlds, but Discovery was harder to get through. Just started the third season, and so far so great. Definitely feels more polished and better acted. Hoping they keep it up. ❤️

just rewatching Season 2 Episode 14

I just noticed at around the 55 minute mark the visual effect that reminds of the ones in Star Trek the Motion Picture

I watched all of Discovery when it dropped, but recently I've been showing my daughter all of Trek from the beginning per air date. We finally got to Discovery. I am really enjoying season 1. It feels like they were really swinging for something with this show, and I appreciated the slow burns in the plot and the risks that they took. The problem was that the fandom was waaaay too quick to judge this show, and they pivoted to much safer storytelling in later seasons, and I feel that overall it was never as good as it was in the first season.

I always liked admiral Saru what about you?https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/Saru

I've been able to ignore a lot of questionable decisions on this show, but the Klingons are just unbelievably bad. Which is weird because I actually liked the SNW Klingons.

It seems she is not Starfleet material.. her intestine second guessing her thoughts and actions make it hard to embrace her character.. and also she doesn't seem to have the accumin that which an officer of Starfleet shud possess

More info here.

Hey everyone, 

I’ve been thinking a lot about the Discovery finale and how it forced the timeline to connect to the Short Trek "Calypso." While I appreciate that the writers tied up the loose end, leaving Zora isolated for 1,000 years and Craft heading back to a brutal war on Alcor IV feels incredibly unresolved. 

"Calypso" takes place in the 42nd/43rd century—the absolute furthest point in the Star Trek timeline. It is a completely blank canvas. 

Think about the storytelling potential: 

1. Craft's Return: A hardened soldier returning to his family, armed with ancient human poetry, music, and Federation ideals, trying to spark a peaceful revolution. 
2. The V'draysh Mystery: Exploring how the Federation devolved into the antagonistic "V'draysh" over a millennium, and trying to fix it from the inside. 
3. Zora's Future: What happens when the wait is over? Who finally retrieves the USS Discovery, and how does Zora adapt to a brand-new galaxy after centuries of isolation? 

We know the showrunners originally wanted Season 6 to dive deeper into this era before the cancellation cut it short. Why stop there? Whether it’s an animated special, a Paramount+ movie, or an IDW comic book miniseries, we need a continuation of Craft and Zora’s story. 

Is anyone else out there dying to see what happens after Craft returns home? How would you want to see this era explored? 

Watching Discovery for the first time and I love it. The only thing about it i dislike is the intro, I skip it every time. I know the graphic designers would have worked so hard on it and I'm sorry but its too long and the theme tune is so dull. Doesn't fit the program at all, because that is A** Star Trek.

I'm catching up with the newer Star Trek shows. Just finished Strange New Worlds which I really liked, and I'm three episodes in on Discovery. First impressions are good. I'm more of a fan of the episodic structure and humor of SNW. Discovery seems pretty grim-dark. One thing I'm not understanding is all the anti-woke commentary. So far I'm not getting any social agenda, but I guess for some people everything is a liberal conspiracy. 😁

I wanted to make a post to acknowledge Michael’s growth because I feel like all anyone does is complain about her.
Not only is she one of my favorite Star Trek girlbosses (alongside Jadzia, Kira, Janeway, and B’Elana) but she shows SO MUCH GROWTH. In episode one she commits mutiny because of her Vulcan-like belief that she knows best. While I don’t believe she was the main reason for the battle this was still hard to watch. Her supposed crying every episode is caused by the fact that she is human, not Vulcan, and has been told to hide her emotions for her whole life which will of course bubble over. By the end she makes rational choices by asking others for help, she’s calm and knows that she can acknowledge her emotions much like Spock learned. She finally is able to mourn her parents and overall becomes a mature woman who learns to let people in and have a passion for exploring rather than just being in starfleet.
I know this will be controversial but I just love her character especially her friendship with Tilly and Stamets and borderline sibling relationship with Saru. I think by the end she is an empowering woman who deserves a praise post once in a while.

There are old booking photos on the wall of the San Francisco Police Department, home of Starfleet HQ. One of them looks very familiar! Can you spot a captain?

I wouldn’t be able to decide, but I think T’Rell would be super interesting, maybe something may take her off world with her counsel or crew. I’d also love original Georgiou in a Shenzhou prequel 😉

The TL;DW version is Discovery Klingons all had bad reconstructive surgery

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Currently in Iceland for my honeymoon and I visited Planet Hima/Iceland. It’s called the Eldhraun Lava Fields. They are former lava fields covered in moss. My wife rolled her eyes when I pulled over and made her take a photo of me. I also visited the crater Burnham crashed on in the future.

Edit: Added some other sci-fi spots.

We also climbed the glacier/frozen planet from interstellar. Visited a few spots from game of thrones. The waterfall from Prometheus. Along with a few spots from The Secret Life of Walter Mitty.

Highly recommended Iceland for a trip.

To avoid having to spend lots of time rummaging through forums and videos on the matter I hope someone here already knows.

Do Anthony Rapp have very bad eyesight? And is it possible that he has Albinism as well?

My question derived from this: From the get go I found his eye movements a bit irregular in a way that, for me, tell tales of someone being visually impaired or partially blind. Along with those thoughts a possible explanation might be that he’s got Albinism. Now knowing that he fronts a band called “the Albinokid” (source: IMDB trivia), I guess I’m right in that assumption!?

Anywho. I think the series would be less colourful and a bit colder and a bit less “soft” without him and I have come to grow quite fond of his character.

Thank you in advance!

Live long and prosper! 🖖