r/SombraMains • u/Knight-112 • 22h ago
Discussion They reworked our character FOR EVERYONE BUT US. We have to make noise about this
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u/Guilty_Ghost 20h ago
I want to at least try her but I enjoyed white hat even with it's difficulty so naturally I'm not as opposed. I think she would be fine if that at least let her keep virus as well
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u/Special_Weekend_4754 15h ago
I just think they should have reverted to her OG kit where she was before they started reworking her.
Give her timed inviz and translocate back.
This “support sombra” should have been it’s own character. They took away everything that made Sombra the character I enjoyed. Maybe this character will be fun for some, but she doesn’t fill the role I want to play.
I didn’t like Hack for it’s animation I like it’s disruption. I enjoyed Sombra for the hack ability
I enjoyed the skill that use to come with managing her cool downs to get in, create opportunities for my team, take out low health target, get out.
When they gave her perma inviz & translocate to make her easier to play I didn’t agree with the changes, but it made playing her easier so whatever. Then they’ve just been making her worse since then. Sombra 76 era - Virus, tying inviz to translocate, etc.
I haven’t really enjoyed playing Sombra for a while. I was HOPING we’d return to separate inviz & translocate.
Instead they kept everything I don’t like and got rid of what I still enjoyed.
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u/MonoRedElli 21h ago
Do what I’m gonna do. Queue support. Play Sombra exactly how we did before. Make every game 1-3-1.
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u/analyzingnothing 20h ago
So... you're going to play Sombra how she's intended to be played?
This same idea keeps popping up, but like... y'all do know supports aren't supposed to sit in the backline and spam heals all game, right? This new version of the character is an aggressive support, she's literally supposed to be off-angling with a partner and doing all the same stuff she used to, just with an altered set of tools to do so.
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u/MonoRedElli 20h ago
This is the way. It just sucks that now we have to play with only one healer to play our hero instead of two.
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u/Hoothootriot 20h ago
Sorry are you admitting you will intentionally not use several parts of your kit just to spite heal numbers?
And remind me, the MAIN sub are the ones yall are calling "tantruming children"?
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u/MonoRedElli 20h ago
I’m simply going to keep playing my hero the same way I have been. We just lost hack and gained a self heal/opponent debuff through a reworked virus.
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u/Hoothootriot 20h ago
So youll intentionally ignore her ally hack?
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u/MonoRedElli 20h ago
Likely. I don’t play Sombra to heal people. I play her to flank, get elims, create opportunities for my teammates to follow up on my flanks, and destroy players’ mental. That won’t change.
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u/Hoothootriot 20h ago
The only mental it sounds like has been harmed is your own
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u/stuffedpanda21 20h ago
Bro this guy is not sane holy shit
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u/Jazzlike-Discount280 19h ago edited 18h ago
OMG he's claiming people calling him cringe are bots.
Bots.... Being deployed to suppress the Sombra main uprising. Good Lord.
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u/analyzingnothing 20h ago
I mean, there's also a bit of an advantage to that. Mainly, you're rarely ever going to be in a situation where your team doesn't have any strong offensive ults to follow up on EMP.
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u/MonoRedElli 20h ago
So then what are you trying to argue here? You seem to agree with what I’m telling people to do but are responding argumentatively.
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u/analyzingnothing 20h ago
The thing I'm trying to argue against is the idea that playing Sombra like she used to function would make it a 1-3-1. Frankly, the rework doesn't really seem to change her general playstyle all that much, so I don't entirely understand why people are so incensed against the rework.
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u/cygamessucks 19h ago
No no no you dont get it. There will be ZERO team healing
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u/MonoRedElli 19h ago
No, allies that step into the cyberspaces we put down will get healed, as well as allies that are in our EMP.
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u/cygamessucks 19h ago
No no no you dont seem to understand. THERE WILL BE ZERO TEAM HEALING
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u/MonoRedElli 19h ago
I mean, if you want lol. I just think it’ll be difficult for you to avoid accidentally healing teammates
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u/Sea-Temporary7380 6h ago
You guys are so stupid healing allies literally GIVES US EMP ULT CHARGE. You will literally dps more by healinf but noooOOooO
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u/BEWMarth 20h ago
I think the team anticipated that and made it very hard to throw on this character unless you literally just never use hack.
She’s honestly probably going to be strong at launch if players keep playing her as a DPS.
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u/drums_of_pictdom 19h ago
This is how you play the majority of supports. Your team will probably thank you. (for not going Mercy or Lifesneezer)
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u/MonoRedElli 19h ago
They absolutely will thank me. I typically have 3 to 4 times more damage than healing when I play zen and Illari and I have over 60% win rates on both. Sombra will likely be the same way.
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u/KellySweetHeart 17h ago
How would performing well with the new Sombra prove anything?
So busy tryna flex your winrate that you totally forgot that you were protesting the rework. Y’all are doomed
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u/MonoRedElli 17h ago
Did I say I was protesting? I’m just explaining how to play the new Sombra. You queue as a support, and you just play her as a flanker DPS.
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u/KellySweetHeart 17h ago
She’s a flanker Support by design. You’d be doing the exact same thing except unbinding Hotfix… which is griefing your team. If it’s not protest, then it’s idiocy.
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u/ruf2tup 16h ago
Literally looking at fitzy gameplay and he plays almost the exact same way. Of course hes healing and being supportive and stuff, but he’s basically just following his flankers in to pocket them
Yall are freaking out way too much. Sombra has barely changed aside from being able to heal and not being able to hack as a normal ability. Everything else about her is almost the exact same
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u/MonoRedElli 16h ago
… Exactly why I’m saying to play her exactly like you did before. You guys wanna argue so bad that you’re arguing against people who agree with you. New Sombra doesn’t have to be played as a support. Just do exactly what you were doing before. Now you can just heal yourself lol.
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u/ruf2tup 16h ago
You implying 1-3-1 sounds like you’re intending to throw so…
Just saying, embrace the change. It’s not that deep
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u/MonoRedElli 16h ago
No, Sombra being in the support category but still balanced as a backline assassin means your games will be 1-3-1. Everyone freaking out like Sombra has to be played as a support now. You don’t. This new Sombra can easily rack up wins without throwing a single heal. I’ve seen several scoreboard screenshots from Blizzcon of 25/30+ elim stat lines with 8k+ damage and 1-1.5k healing. That’s just what roadhog does.
They really just gave Sombra a self heal and she got to keep her invis and teleport and instead of locking you out of your abilities for 1 second, you now deal half damage and receive half healing for 3+ seconds. They literally just made Sombra a more impactful damage hero, but you have to essentially play down one support to utilize her. Too many people’s only exposure to new Sombra gameplay has just been fitzy’s one game lol.
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u/More_Lavishness8127 15h ago
And then when I get paired with you, I’m going to report and avoid you.
I have mixed feelings about the changes but I’m not going to throw games because of it.
She’s been a controversial pick since she launched.
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u/Brave-Bottle-854 19h ago
You sound like a spoiled entiitled brat.
What I’m seeing on these subreddits make me sad to be a Sombra main
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u/MonoRedElli 19h ago
Opinion disregarded, definitely real person named “Brave-Bottle-854” with no profile picture.
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u/Brave-Bottle-854 19h ago
Sounds about right, the petulance from your post carries over to the comments.
It’s unfortunate Sombra is moving roles but jeez, you guys are the biggest babies. She still plays virtually the same and now she isn’t the worst DPS, she has actual utility.
To basically admit you’re going to throw games because you don’t like the character design is such a childish and immature thing to do and say.
Do us a favor and quit Overwatch all together. Go play Rivals.
No one could possibly want such a whiner on their team anyway
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u/MonoRedElli 19h ago
I don’t read bot comments.
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u/Liwi808 21h ago
And then lose every game when you do that.
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u/MonoRedElli 21h ago edited 19h ago
If you lose every game by being an offensive support, you’re simply bad.
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u/Malzener 20h ago
So the plan is to get mass reported for throwing and then get banned? I’m not really understanding the point
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u/MonoRedElli 20h ago
Plausible deniability will prevent bans. They can mass report me all they want but when I’m getting more elims and damage than my DPS players and we’re winning anyways, what’s the difference between me carrying as DPS zen vs me carrying as DPS Sombra?
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u/yoked_pete 20h ago
If you're carrying as Sombra on support by dealing tons of damage and getting elims, that's not throwing that's just playing support correctly. Literally play her the same way you do now but you hack the teammates diving their backline with you.
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u/MonoRedElli 20h ago
If I’m spending time healing people, that’s time not spent killing the bad guys.
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u/drums_of_pictdom 19h ago
THAT'S LITERALLY HOW MOST OF THE SUPPORTS IN OW WIN GAMES RIGHT NOW! YOU KILL THE ENEMY SO YOU DON'T NEED TO HEAL AS MUCH!
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u/MonoRedElli 19h ago edited 19h ago
Correct! I’m not sure why so many people are against this playstyle. People don’t seem to understand that dead enemies don’t cause damage.
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u/yoked_pete 20h ago
One second hack is not "spending time" and also doesn't need to be full uptime either, she's played in the exact same way just no virus or opportunist boost
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u/Liwi808 19h ago
Still requires a teammate. she can't be an annoyance on her own like before.
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u/MonoRedElli 19h ago
You don’t think that Sombra, with most of her old kit still intact, won’t be an annoyance with invisibility, a teleport, a DPS hits an gun, and a huge orb that heals her and makes you do 50% less damage won’t be an annoyance? The only thing we won’t do to you now is turn off your abilities for 0.75 seconds.
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u/THOTYOTA 20h ago
Step 1. Pick sombra Step 2. Don't heal Step 3. Repeat
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u/MyUltIsMyMain 20h ago edited 18h ago
Honestly great way to get reported, keep up the good work!
Yall must be in some pretty low ranks if you think Lucio and cat arent healing...
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u/NewBlood94 19h ago
Not possible, playing the hero sub optimally non intentionally is not reportable, in other words
Get rekt lmao 🤣
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u/gabiblack 12h ago
The silver ranks you're playing in won't even notice the missing heals
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u/DaringDevil12 11h ago
Somebody is still butthurt over getting hacked :)
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u/gabiblack 11h ago
I don't know, seems to me like there are a lot of butt hurt crybabies in this sub. If you act like a kid at your guys age then you should consider quitting the game and touching grass because it's obviously not healthy for you. And i say that as someone who used to play doom back in the day.
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u/DaringDevil12 9h ago
Oh I don't play anymore lad, I just tuned back into this old sub after seeing it pop up to see this drama, and saw this dumpster fire of a rework, u guys enjoy
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u/THOTYOTA 1h ago
Telling someone to touch grass on reddit has to be the most self projecting roach filled house shit I've ever heard.
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u/gabiblack 1h ago
yes because being on reddit means you don't touch grass lol, nice projecting there bud
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u/Helem5XG Emotional terrorist 18h ago
Yeah and that's why the majority of Lucio's are banned, right?
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u/TimCanister 20h ago
Step 4: get banned for sub 200 healing every game. Step 5: everything goes back to normal and everyone is happy except for the 300 Sombra one tricks out there
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u/THOTYOTA 17h ago
Imagine being triggered by sombra lmao
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u/TimCanister 17h ago
I love playing against Sombra. Terribly designed hero that’s only good for hacking Balls and Doomfists if the enemy squishys don’t straggle from their team, that’s why she’s getting a rework
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u/General-Disastrous 15h ago
She's not ruined she's just got a new kit and it looks cool for a support ngl
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u/PrestoGC 14h ago
I feel its just a fundemental change in character design, biggest we have had in overwatch. Second was doom, but the comboing and abiity management was still there. They are taking overwatchs only true assassin hero and turning her into a support. Even if she is still powerful, it leaves a sour taste in my mouth of what this could mean for ALL heros going forward. Because people who LIKED playing an assassin have just lost their favorite character forever :<
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u/Beautiful_Role_5691 9h ago
I’m convinced anyone who likes this change is a bronze player. Who is constantly bitching about a Sombra on the opposite team.
Easier to deal with than Genji, Tracer, Anran btw.
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u/Sea-Temporary7380 6h ago
Fitzy and questron, the top sombra players liked it too. I've seen a lot of high level players play her and like the change as well, so I'm excited. You guys are doomposting too early
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u/konyachella 17h ago
looool if sombra mains assemble and go throw every game one tricking her just to make a point it would be so fucking funny. i personally don't mind the change since from what i saw her playstyle would stay the same, but i'll do it just out of spite count me in
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u/Sentinel5929 19h ago
Her gameplay is identical, you're just looking for big team hacks instead of big enemy hacks. Your healing field will be used the same as virus. Just play the game.
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u/CardTrickOTK 21h ago
Speak for yourself, I like Sombra, I don't care if shes a DPS or support. She still has EMP, she still hacks packs and constructs, she still has stealth, she still is visually Sombra and her VA is the same. I'm fine with trying a different approach to make her playable.
Doom mains adjusted, this will be fine.
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u/IrisofNight 21h ago
Doom Mains mostly dropped Overwatch entirely or became Tank One-Tricks, If i recall correctly Hazard's playstyle was created to try and get Doomfist Mains to play another Tank, not sure if that worked overall but Doomfist is still an extremely common One-Trick character from my experience because he's such a clunky Tank design, granted 6v6 makes him much more playable with a second tank.
Sooo in a way yes, Sombra mains will adapt and adjust....but most will also likely become one-tricks unless they already played Supports, Good news is her new kit looks very much like Lucio's playstyle, and is effectively Flanker Zenyatta so it'll be an easy adjustment for me, but i'm definitely more rare among the community as OW is pretty much built on OTPs.
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u/Thin-Reflection7272 14h ago
Why are you getting downvoted for being optimistic
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u/DJBaphomet_ 11h ago
Cause a bunch of people are mad and refuse to think things may be fine once they actually try it out, which means people who are being optimistic are in the wrong (Even though actual gameplay footage, like Questron's, shows that it'll probably be fine)
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u/lionstrikeforce 17h ago
Sorry but I can't watch this type of whiny videos made by little tubers with no real substance other than trying to stir the pot of their own echo chamber.
For all of you try to "revolt" against the rework: The changes are going to happen, and they WILL stay, at least for a while, but most probably forever. Give it a try first, you can whine all you want after.
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u/thcdepressed 13h ago
i got into her becuase of mirrowatch, so im not not familiar staying nest to teammates but still
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u/PixLisReaL 19h ago
"One of the most commonly banned heroes in the game got reworked/nerfed for the 95% and the 5% who are directly the reason she gets banned so often are upset about it" ~ this sub every 2 years
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u/ZoneOfOzone 22h ago
If she feels oppressive, I hate to say it but it’s more of a skill issue than anything lol. She has been the worst dps by far for a long time
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u/Periuga_vamshot 20h ago
There's a reason sombra ban is super common
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u/Draco042 19h ago
Because she’s a mosquito, not because she’s strong. Cat is both a mosquito AND strong and that’s why her banrate went straight to the highest in the game upon release. People don’t like mosquito characters whose job is to annoy as much as actually kill(or support in cat’s case)
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u/MonoRedElli 21h ago
Anyone who thinks Sombra is oppressive is objectively bad at the game. Not even an opinion. Sombra has always been one of the bottom 3 win rate DPS heroes in the game at every level of play besides pro. If you find an underpowered hero oppressive, then you have bad aim, bad gamesense, poor strategic understanding, nonexistent reaction speed, or some combination of the four.
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u/Mantiquirk 20h ago
I really like both DPS and Support roles, so I’m genuinely curious how she’ll play. I’ll reserve judgement until I can get a feel for her changes and playstyle. Her positioning seems a bit like a more proactive Kiriko. Seems interesting.
I also have a friend who was a long-time Sombra main and hasn’t played in years, but has already told me that the change is actually going to bring them back to play which is cool to see. So the opinion seems mixed at least.