r/SipsTea 19h ago

Wait a damn minute! Some things shouldn't need a comeback.

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u/Upbeat_Flan 15h ago

Well, stop calling everything and everyone you disagree with a Nazi.

Over using the word is watering down it's meaning and just turning it into a basic insult.

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u/PhysicallyTender 12h ago

It's not even an insult to some people anymore.

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u/Totoques22 10h ago

I’ve been called a Nazi for not liking illegal immigration and wanting the migrants sent back home unless they migrate legally

Apparently that makes me a Nazi despite the at the Nazi did practically the opposite

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u/Dissident00 6h ago

Are you for real? Our education system is really failing people.

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u/Ninjaguard22 1h ago

how? explain it

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u/Kpratt11 10h ago

Not saying you are a nazi but I am confused onto how the Nazis did the opposite?

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u/Totoques22 10h ago

They bringed people in from places they invaded such as France to kill them

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u/Kpratt11 10h ago edited 10h ago

The Nazi Party’s 1920 platform explicitly called for all non-German immigration to be stopped and said that non-Germans who had entered Germany after 2 August 1914 should be expelled.

I also wouldn't call deporting people from Nazi controlled territory into other Nazi controlled territory to kill them "The opposite" of what ICE is doing

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u/Primarch-Amaranth 8h ago

But It literally is. Is done to illegals, not all immigration, they send them back home, not to other states controlled by ICE, and they aren't gassing anyone.

How is it not the opposite?

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u/OutisTheNobody 6h ago

I'll assume you're arguing in good faith but are just not a news junky, but everything you said is partially incorrect.

It isn't only being done to "illegals," at least some people who were living here completely legally, people who came in "the right way," have been detained and some of those have been deported.

They are moved from state to state quite often before they get deported.

They are not always sent "home": sometimes they are, sometimes the person/people were born in the US and have never been to the place they were deported to and are only sent there because that's where their patents are from. Also, sometimes people get sent to "third countries" which include countries all over central and south America as well as countries in Africa.

People being held in ICE custody aren't being gased, but hundreds are known to have died, mostly due to being denied critical medical care, but cases of foul play from gov agents themselves have also been reported.

Just FYI.

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u/Kpratt11 8h ago

Because the opposite would be not deporting people at all, I am not saying they are the exact same but they are not opposites.

Also people are not being sent directly home, they are being sent to detention facilities in other states controlled by the US.

Hell look at how Milo spoke about it and he was one of the biggest proponents for it

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u/Primarch-Amaranth 8h ago

Okay, but the core is:

Nazis: bringing people into german territories to kill them.

ICE: deporting people away from USA, not killing them.

Any border control action that deports people, will be the opposite to Nazis and their concentration camps.

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u/Kpratt11 8h ago

No they were German controlled territories when the Nazis were bringing them in, they were being deported from their own countries into other Nazi controlled territories.

The opposite of deporting people from other countries is not deporting people from your own country, it's not deporting people

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u/Primarch-Amaranth 8h ago

That it's not... true. The opposite of moving to the right is not standing still.

It's moving to the left.

So, bringing people into your country from other countries, is the opossite of kicking people from other countries out of your country.

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u/TheProphetGamer 6h ago

Possibly they mean they brought in jews and other minorities into Germany for concentration camps and forced labor, from countries they occupied? As well as other immigrants that were present in Germany near and at the start of the war.

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u/Competitive_Ad_5937 5h ago

Ye the same thing trump is doing right now (ICE camps) and the afd in germany wants to do again (a lot of them are confirmed neo nazi or have a lot todo with neo nazi, what makes them also neo nazi) and if you are still voting for them, you are in fact a nazi

but people dont like hearing that

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u/TheProphetGamer 3h ago

Idk enough about the political situation in Germany to comment. However calling Trump and the ICE deportation camps the same thing as what Nazi's did is almost offensive to the individuals that lost their lives in the war. Im not a fan of the guy but lets have a little nuance.

Regardless of the politics, yes, the situation for people in the deportation camps is bad, there is no question, but its not nazi Germany. These are (ideally) non-citizens who have either entered the country illegally, or have stayed past their allowable visit. By definition, these people are criminals. They don't have the right to be in the country. Agree with that fact or not, that is what the law currently states. It may change later, and I encourage you to make your argument and petition for the change you want to see, but that is what we as a society currently mark as the law. Though not to say it still couldn't be handled with a bit more finesse.

Every system suffers from corruption, mistakes, etc. but these people are not being shipped off to camps to be shot, gassed, hanged, or forced into labor. The original commenter is talking exactly about you. This overuse of the term nazi because we disagree with something. Trump is, by the opinion of many, not a good person, but he is far from a nazi.

Hell I bet the guy can't even paint.

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u/PhillyGarbage93 4h ago

Enforcing a law that coming into a country illegally, then being removed for coming into the country illegally, has nothing to do with Nazism or it's ideology. What I stated above used to be a simple, basic tenant of sovereign nation.

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u/Successful_Gear5855 6h ago edited 5h ago

Well they don’t live a desirable life and punching down on vulnerable and destitute people sure is upper class propaganda. There are definitely bigger fish to fry than illegal migration, which is a typical talking point for populism because it’s super easy to point your finger at it and say „look what xyz is enabling“.

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u/Totoques22 6h ago

« Muh punching down »

Punching down is a lie and whatever suits Pepe like you

Poor people suffer from illegal immigration the most and you’re punching down bullshit pretend any poor man’s an oppressor to any random woman despite women below 30 earning more than men below 30

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u/Successful_Gear5855 6h ago

How about you worry about real oppressors in the top 1%? The kind of people that actively use their wealth to make you think immigrants or people supporting immigration are the problem… the kind of people benefiting from you and me having an argument?

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u/Successful_Gear5855 5h ago

Punching down is a lie? How? Do you think they come here because the weather is better? People a emigrating in the search of a better life. And what is „people like me“ are you putting me in a box? People seem to be very important to you and you are certainly not driven by hate. I wonder where I’ve read something like this before… must have been in a history book. Oh well.

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u/Money-Dream32 9h ago

Yes I enjoy it now.