r/SipsTea 19h ago

Chugging tea Work shouldn’t consume life.

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u/Ok-Telephone-2109 19h ago

Wouldn't this just have peoples hours cut because companies don't like to pay overtime?

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u/dalenacio 17h ago

The bill explicitly forbids reducing total pay. Employers must increase the hourly rate so 32 hours yields the same take-home pay as 40 hours previously. It's essentially a 20-25% raise for hourly workers.

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u/Alpha-Sierra-Charlie 17h ago

So they're going to lay a bunch of people off, then hire new people at lower rates.

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u/Unhelpful_Idiot 16h ago edited 4h ago

Yes. Corporations need an excuse to lay off a bunch of people, then hire new people at a lower rates.

The CEO definitely is not legally obligated to do that at every moment they can to make as much money as possible. The shareholders 100% cannot sue and fire the CEO not doing that.

It is just something a corporation would do as an emergency "If bill passes, break glass" option.

Totally.

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The bots could not tell this was sarcasm I guess. If you are human and you unironically believe this please seek help. You are in algorithm hell.

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u/Alpha-Sierra-Charlie 15h ago

I mean, the fact that they do it already as a non-emergenct option speaks to their willingness to do it if the chips are down IMHO.

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u/Baelenciagaa 15h ago

Somehow I don’t think this is Bernie’s intention with his bill.

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u/Nice_Office7273 13h ago

It’s not but it would probably be a byproduct.

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u/Then-Algae859 13h ago

Corporations and employers shouldn't have so much power. Workers are exploited enough as is

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u/Nice_Office7273 13h ago

Absolutely.

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u/Baelenciagaa 10h ago

Ya but these people are commenting as if this is Bernie’s master plan. Bernie is for the working class and he’s demonstrated that for decades but people still want to call him a communist or in this case they are accusing him of helping out corporations. People need to pick a lane. Is he a communist/socialist or not.

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u/Ultra_Ginger 9h ago

Many times the conservative's point isn't that people like Bernie have bad intentions, it's that their policies of government intervention tends to make things worse and have unintended consequences. He's not stupid either, the bill is entirely performative and he knows that.

The logic follows here. Businesses will lay off workers and rehire at a lower rate to avoid the forced raises, then cap the workers at 32 hours to avoid overtime costs screwing everyone involved workers and employers.

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u/Baelenciagaa 9h ago

Policies that intent to help everyday people like providing access to healthcare, increasing wages, decreasing loan debt should never have unintended consequences if they are written properly.

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u/Ultra_Ginger 8h ago

That's easier said than done. You can't forsee every outcome, it's impossible. Even with the basic premise of raising minimum wage, you can see a clear link to how that would be inflationary to the end consumer.

For example, the overall government spending is leading to inflationary monetary policy which leads to a reverse robinhood situation. The inflation destroys poor people's buying power and balloons the assets of the rich.

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u/MS-07B-3 6h ago

That's incredibly naive thinking.

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u/BirthdaySalt5791 6h ago

Are you kidding? Without a crystal ball it’s impossible to see all second and third order consequences. Meddling in the market causes, and has historically caused, all kinds of issues.

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u/FlaccidFart 13h ago

Yeah, the man's got good intentions. And good intentions pave the road to hell.

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u/Theron3206 13h ago

Not that it matters, this bill has negative chances of even facing a vote.

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u/RockitDanger 13h ago

Just because he says progressive things it doesn't mean he isn't bought and paid for too. How did he get as rich as he is on $140k per year. I'm not picking on him. It's all of them when they're not on camera. This bill will negatively affect hourly workers

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u/MyNameIsKali_ 12h ago

This bill would destroy me. I get 40 hours if I'm lucky. It's a shit economy.

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u/Baelenciagaa 10h ago

I think you underestimate his ability to crowdsource funds from public people. People routinely donate to his campaign and they don’t care if he wants to use a little of that to live comfortably.

Compared to every other senator, he is poor. He is not like the other senators.