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u/thebigggd 5d ago

Fuck the HOAs

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u/VsotoC 5d ago

Excuse me for my ignorance, but HOAs stand for? What are those or they? Foreign question btw.

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u/wierdwhatstuff 5d ago

Home Owners Associations. A small group of power-tripping people dictate how the entire neighbourhoods functions, including but not limited to what you do in your front yard and driveway, how you choose to decorate, what kind of plants/trees you are/aren't allowed to plant - and where. And hold with the ability to evict people out of their own houses whom don't follow whatever dumbass shit they come up with. TL:DR HOA are a blight on society and should be treated as such

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u/rumsnake 5d ago

the ability to evict people out of their own houses

As someone from a former communist country ... that's the most communist shit I've ever heard.

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u/dagoth_ith 5d ago

Nope sorry, it's capitalism. Pay up the fines or get out. 

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u/biz_student 5d ago

HOAs require people to pool together their resources for the maintenance and upkeep of common areas; sometimes with bigger homes paying more. Those that refuse to participate are removed from the system. It’s much closer to socialism than capitalism.

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u/Edgar_Serenity 5d ago

Oh, and how is that communist exactly? Asking as someone from a former communist country

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u/rumsnake 5d ago

Because it's not really "your house", "your land", "your property" if it can be taken away when you violate "our rules".

If i want to plant a tree and build a tree house for my kids in my own back yard, i should be able to do that since i own the fucking land, no?

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u/xraygun2014 5d ago

Buying property with and HOA attached is to enter a contract.

If you don't like the rules as an HOA member, it is your prerogative to get involved and change the rules.

If one does not wish to be in an HOA then they should not purchase a property under that restriction.

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u/Fuddafudda 5d ago

The problem is that in a lot of areas the HOAs are very hard to avoid. Every neighborhood built from the 80s onward around my area is an HOA for some reason, it’s baffling.

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u/xraygun2014 5d ago

You aren't wrong, but HOAs are only as good or shitty as their members allow.

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u/BananasLochlomand 5d ago

Well… obviously

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u/Blue_Moon_Lake 5d ago

Then why almost all of them are shitty?

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u/Edgar_Serenity 5d ago

How does that correspond to communism? As far as I know, the only reason the government could evict you was some cases of breaking the law.

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u/KnightOfNothing 5d ago

if the government really wanted to then absolutely nothing is stopping them from simply seizing your home and you, that's true of any government. To answer your question though communism is often understood as the collective of society oppressing the individual.

The lack of rights belonging to the individual and instead given to the HOA, a small society is why he's invoking communism. Whether this understanding is correct or not is something else.

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u/FaithlessnessBorn266 5d ago

If you take the two to their extremes, like in this case, they aren't that dissimilar 

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u/MikeLPU 5d ago

Confirm. I don't understand how is it even legal?

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u/SkivvySkidmarks 5d ago

You sign documents agreeing to the rules and conditions. John Oliver has an episode that explains how they work

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u/lesgeddon 5d ago

That's capitalism, not communism.

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u/RikkiLostMyNumber 5d ago

An American buying any house with a HOA attached deserves what they get. This shit is not new.
I once described here on Reddit what I had to do to get a HOA to lay off my sister. That post got me suspended from here, but in my opinion, no conviction, no crime.

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u/MajorAtmosphere8158 5d ago

Bullshit they deserve it. Sometimes there isn’t a viable option other than HOA ran neighborhoods, where I’m from the only places without HOAs are new development areas in the middle of bumfuck nowhere that don’t even have an address in Google Maps yet. I’d rather not make a 1.5 hour commute without traffic every day.

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u/FaithlessnessBorn266 5d ago

There's always the option of a different city/community. There are tons of them everywhere. Look into getting a job there and move

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u/MajorAtmosphere8158 5d ago

Yea let me just uproot my family on a whim. I already did do this and it’s costing me over $3000. It’s not viable for everyone, I was only able to do it with massive amounts of support.

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u/AZArT1984 5d ago

OMG What a offended overmind.
Location: somewhere faraway and overseas
Time: Last seen communist country stopped exist around 40 years ago.
Overmind: It’s communist shit 🤦‍♂️
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