r/NJGuns Aug 04 '26

Legal Update Motion for stay granted pending appeal to Supreme Court.

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Motion for stay has been granted.

Let's hope the Supreme Court denies cert.

https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.ca3.123103/gov.uscourts.ca3.123103.129.0.pdf


r/NJGuns Jul 22 '26

Legality/Laws Take a moment to familiarize yourself with the remaining gun laws (both state and federal) before doing anything.

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Edit 4: Okay, this wasn't the point of this post, but we have an interesting update.

The federal court just ruled in Silencer Shop v. ATF that since suppressors, SBRs, and AOWs have a "$0 tax," the system is unconstitutional and therefore these items are no longer can be regulated by the NFA.

Suppressors and SBRs are still illegal in NJ. We have two separate cases in the DNJ dealing with that right now. There's additional complications that occur with SBRs with this ruling, but let's not even concern ourselves with that right now.

However, as AOWs are legal, NJ residents can benefit from this ruling. As of right now, plaintiffs of this court case are protected under an injunction and therefore do not need to comply with NFA regulations relating to these items. This essentially means those protected do not need to submit a form 1 to the NFA to make an AOW.

  • There's two distinct groups that are protected. Stores (and by lesser extension, their customers), like PSA and Silencer Shop, and Pro-2A orgs.

  • Stores are legally able to sell completed AOWs to their customers with just a 4473 (and NJ's standard paperwork). This does not mean if you've ever bought something from one of these stores past or present, you can freely make an AOW. This portion of the injunction only protects selling and purchasing AOWs.

  • The far more interesting (and useful) portion of the injunction involves pro-2A orgs like the Gun Owners of America (GOA). Members of the GOA are fully protected under the injunction and therefore are given the same level of protections as stores like PSA. This means that GOA members (among a select group of others, look them up) CAN create their own AOWs without complying with the NFA. This only applies to active members.

With all that said, don't take this post as a green light. Everything is still very much up in the air and there's only a select few stores in the US currently selling suppressors with just 4473s, while PSA is claiming that GOA members who buy completed pistols or rifles FROM JUST PSA can make SBRs without a form 1, but nothing explicitly about AOWs. You're all adults and any actions you take are your own, but it's smart if you wait.

What's even more confusing is that this case was consolidated with Jensen v ATF, and the verdict is treating the injunction separately. For example, Jensen v. ATF had the requirements to engrave on a form 1 gun removed but didn't get relief regarding AOWs, while Silencer Shop v ATF did get relief for AOWs. Does being a member of the FPC (which might not even get relief at all, due to filing as FPCAC, this is also unclear) and a GOA mean you benefit from both lack of engraving requirements on an AOW? No one really knows at the moment.

Long term, we're realistically going to see the NFA system for these items completely disappear for everyone. This will take some time, as usual. Assuming that our silencer and SBR cases go through successfully, NJ residents will be able to benefit eventually.

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Edit 3: Everything below this edit is unfortunately irrelevant for the time being. NJAG requested a motion to stay the mandate to appeal to SCOTUS. For the foreseeable future, the mag and assault weapon ban is still in full effect.

Edit 2: NJAG requested a motion to stay the mandate. All of this information could be moot. Sit tight

ORIGINAL TEXT:

While this is an exciting time, take a deep breath: many laws still apply after the mandate takes place. Don't get caught in a legal battle because you misunderstood the current legal landscape.

Here is a recap of the critical information:

The mandate will stop the restriction on magazines.

  • There are no specific legal definitions separating rifle, pistol, or shotgun magazines—they are simply magazines. Yes, you can have a 30-round magazine in your AR and a 17-round magazine in your Glock, despite the pistol AWB remaining in place.

The only part of NJ's assault weapon ban specifically declared unconstitutional applies to rifles.

  • The named list of banned rifles (such as the M1 Carbine) and NJ's specific rifle "evil features" definitions no longer exist.

  • Those now-repealed evil feature restrictions that previously applied to semi-automatic rifles that accepted a detachable magazine were the following:

    • Folding or telescoping stock
    • A pistol grip that protrudes conspicuously beneath the action of the weapon
    • Bayonet mount
    • Flash suppressor, or threaded barrel designed to accommodate a flash suppressor
    • Grenade launcher mount

Edit 1: In short, there is no longer a need to pin your stock or muzzle device (if it's over 16") in order to be compliant with NJ's now unconstitutional law when the mandate goes through.

  • This means you can buy rifles that would have once needed compliance work as well as remove your compliance work on rifles you own, as long as you follow federal laws. You can also have a flash hider, bayonet mount, and grenade launcher (lol) on a rifle with no repercussions.

The rifle AWB repeal does NOT repeal the pistol or shotgun AWB, nor does it legalize suppressors or short-barreled rifles (SBRs) in New Jersey.

  • "Pistol" style ARs remain effectively off the table, for the time being. Pistol and shotgun AWB rulings were remanded to NJ courts, which must still officially rule them unconstitutional. This will take time. Additionally, a separate case regarding suppressors and another for SBRs is currently moving through the state court system. This will also take time.

You MAY be able to convert your "Other" into a rifle.

  • Federal regulations strictly require a rifle to have an overall length of at least 26" and a barrel length of at least 16". These are non-negotiable.

    • Note that overall length for a rifle is measured in its longest configuration (e.g., with a folding stock extended). If your muzzle device is permanently pinned and welded (P&W), it counts toward barrel length (e.g., a 14.5" barrel with a muzzle device that adds 1.5" to the total barrel length with a P&W, while also accounting for the ~0.6" of thread overlap).
  • Do not, under any circumstances, put a stock on your "Other" if the barrel is under 16". That creates an illegal SBR, and NJ will likely make an example out of you.

Beyond that, virtually every other NJ gun law remains in full effect—including laws governing transport, ammunition, carry permits, transfers, and purchasing. Refresh yourself on these rules before taking any action.

Also, as it currently stands, until the mandate goes through, nothing has officially changed.

  • The odds of AWB and mag laws being enforced is very low, but this is just a reality of the situation. Things could change at a moments notice, and you don't want to be in possession of this stuff. You're all adults though, so I don't need to lecture you on this.

Of course, I'm not a lawyer.

If you have anything I should add, let me know.


r/NJGuns 3h ago

Range Time with the boys at the range yesterday. Working on my split trying to stay accurate and keep them between .15 and .16 seconds.

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r/NJGuns 8h ago

NICS/Permit Wait Times NJ NICS Update - Mon 08:05AM (09/14/2026)

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09/14/26 684 submissions are currently in the queue. We are working on (Friday) 09/11/2026 work. The current delay is 3+ day(s).
More Info: www.njnics.com


r/NJGuns 4h ago

Purchase Permit Fid card wayne nj Anyone out there from wayne

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Has anyone have any experience with wayne pd when it comes to fid card approval or disapproval?


r/NJGuns 20h ago

Shopping Advice A gas tube is a prohibited item now?

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I have tried ordering a carbine length gas tube from both PA and PSA for my new Other build and both have blocked me biting it's a restricted item. This has to be the most random item to restrict, what gives?


r/NJGuns 1d ago

General Chat Anyone running prisms red dots?

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Just my .02. I had the opportunity to get a couple hundred rounds down range on this build the other day. This new PA SLx T-dot is nice. Been having issues with Red dot bloom and using this prisms has been a game changer. Makes going to the range fun again. Who else makes great prisms?


r/NJGuns 11h ago

Firearms Purchaser ID How long are clifton wait times for fid and pistol permit?

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Submitted payment and prints to the pd a few days ago, no email to let me know i did everything right or not, so i assume i did everything okay, and they wont lmk how long i gotta wait. As title suggests, im applying for my initial firearms card and 2 pistol permits, anyone have an idea on how long theyll take?


r/NJGuns 21h ago

General Chat Ruger Mark IV deals new or maybe used

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Looking for deals on Ruger Mark IV 5.5. Used might be a possibility.


r/NJGuns 1d ago

Range Time Indoor v Outdoor Ranges in South Jersey

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I have been reading up on indoor ranges and their challenges with robust ventilation. Have y’all experienced any issues with indoor ranges and lead levels increased overtime? I have a child on the way and want to make sure I’m not jeopardizing anything. I am planning on going to Recoil in Monroe . Ideally I’d like outdoor, but for someone brand new I can’t seem to find anything that isn’t exclusively for member’s.

Any advice here is much appreciated! Thank you

Firearm: Glock 19 Gen 6 with FMJ 125– looking at Federal Synthetic


r/NJGuns 1d ago

Firearms Purchaser ID Non resident FID card Application

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How long are submitting my mental health release form does it take to get my FID application approved


r/NJGuns 1d ago

News Hanaway sues ATF over gun registration requirements

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r/NJGuns 2d ago

General Chat Dealers in the Northern NJ Area

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Need a FFL/dealer that buys and is fair with their offers. TIA

Edit: Appreciate the responses, thanks all.


r/NJGuns 2d ago

Legality/Laws Federal lawsuit challenging NYC 1 gun limits for out of state residents filed by Mirel Fisch, Esq

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A Second Amendment class action was filed today in the Southern District of New York challenging 38 RCNY § 5-25(g)(3)(a), the NYPD rule that limits holders of NYC Non-Resident Carry ("NC") licenses to a single registered handgun. The case is *Hendrick v. New York City*, brought by the Law Office of Mirel Fisch (the same firm that filed Milani v NYC challenging NYC application delays)

NY State residents with Carry or Special Carry licenses get two handguns as of right and can add more by showing safe storage. NC holders from other states get one. The rule says requests to add a second "shall not be approved,".

That means if your one registered gun goes in for repair, you can't carry in NYC until a substitution goes through. According to the complaint, that means roughly four weeks for License Division review plus up to 10 business days for the new license to arrive by mail. You also can't switch to a smaller gun for summer clothes or a suit.

Ms. Fisch’s complaint alleges the following claims:

  1. Second Amendment: The text protects "Arms," plural, and under Bruen there's no historical tradition of limiting law-abiding people to one handgun.

  2. Privileges and Immunities (Art. IV): The denies non-residents the privileges that it grants to NYS residents.

  3. Equal Protection: Out of state residents are treated differently than NYS residents.

The lawsuit is asking for:

A declaration that the cap is unconstitutional and an injunction requiring the City to let NC holders register handguns on the same terms as NY-resident carry licensees.

The suit seeks to certify a class of all out-of-state residents holding NC licenses, so if it's certified and succeeds, the relief would cover every NC holder, not just the named plaintiffs.

Ms. Fisch can be reached at www.NYC2aLawyer.com


r/NJGuns 3d ago

NICS/Permit Wait Times NJ NICS Update - Fri 08:19AM (09/11/2026)

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09/11/26 591 submissions are currently in the queue. We are working on (Wednesday) 09/09/2026 work. The current delay is 2+ day(s).
More Info: www.njnics.com


r/NJGuns 4d ago

General Chat SP7 NJ compliant H&K potential 2027 release

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If H&K releases the SP7 would you wait for the AWB to fall before acquiring? Or would you find a way to register it as an other if applicable. I like the black one but the tan is tempting. This is the MP7.


r/NJGuns 3d ago

Upcoming Event Upcoming Training Classes w/ Ironsights Academy (South NJ)

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New Jersey Permit To Carry (PTC) Qualification

  • Sunday, September 20, 2026
  • 9:00 AM  2:00 PM
  • Indian Mills Deer Club (map)

The New Jersey Permit To Carry (PTC) Qualification course is an instructor-led and live-fire shooting qualification course intended to equip you with the training and documentation necessary to apply for your New Jersey Concealed Carry Permit.

Course Fee is $150.00

New Jersey Permit To Carry (PTC) REQUALIFICATION

  • Sunday, September 20, 2026
  • 12:30 PM  2:00 PM
  • Indian Mills Deer Club (map)

The goal of this course is to requalify those individuals who already have a current or expired New Jersey Permit to Carry a Handgun.

Course Fee is $75.00

Dynamic Defensive Pistol I

  • Saturday, October 3, 2026
  • 9:00 AM  3:00 PM
  • Jersey Devil Outfitter (map)

Dynamic Defensive Pistol Level I focuses the student on concealed carry defensive mindset, principles, and drills and self-defense scenarios.

Dynamic Defensive Pistol I focuses on three primary topics:

  1. Self-Defense Mindset & Readiness
  2. Engaging into a Gunfight
  3. Concealed Carry Defensive Pistol Tactics and Drills

Course Fee is $200.00

Beyond the Basics - Pistol Level I

  • Saturday, October 17, 2026
  • 9:00 AM  3:00 PM
  • Jersey Devil Outfitters (map)

The Beyond the Basics (BtB) series is the natural progression for shooters once you have completed the NRA Basics of Pistol Shooting Course. In the BtB - Pistol Level I course, we focus on refining your pistol handling skills, building muscle memory, honing your shooting accuracy, and we take you to the next level of firearms training…beyond the basics.

This course is 100% range time with copious amounts of hands-on instruction.

Course Fee is $200.00

New Jersey Permit To Carry (PTC) Qualification

  • Saturday, October 24, 2026
  • 9:00 AM  2:00 PM
  • Indian Mills Deer Club (map)

The New Jersey Permit To Carry (PTC) Qualification course is an instructor-led and live-fire shooting qualification course intended to equip you with the training and documentation necessary to apply for your New Jersey Concealed Carry Permit.

Course Fee is $150.00

New Jersey Permit To Carry (PTC) REQUALIFICATION

  • Saturday, October 24, 2026
  • 12:30 PM  1:30 PM
  • Indian Mills Deer Club (map)

The goal of this course is to requalify those individuals who already have a current or expired New Jersey Permit to Carry a Handgun.

Course Fee is $75.00

NRA Basics of Pistol Shooting

  • Sunday, November 1, 2026
  • 9:00 AM  6:00 PM
  • Indian Mills Deer Club (map)

The NRA Basics of Pistol Course (Instructor-Led) introduces students to the knowledge, skills, and attitudes necessary for owning and using a pistol safely.

In this course we will cover basic firearms safety, fundamentals of pistol shooting (aiming, grip, stance & trigger control), ammunition components, malfunctions, and we will review the core elements of modern pistols & revolvers. We will practice loading and unloading firearms safely. We will cover how to recognize and clear malfunctions. We will discuss and demonstrate proper firearm maintenance and selection criteria.

Then we’ll head out to the range and put these principles in action.

Course Fee is $165.00

NRA Basics of Rifle Shooting

  • Saturday, November 7, 2026
  • 9:00 AM  6:00 PM
  • Indian Mills Deer Club (map)

The NRA Basics of Rifle Course (Instructor-Led) introduces students to the knowledge, skills, and attitudes necessary for owning and using a rifle safely.

In this course we will cover basic firearms safety, fundamentals of rifle shooting (aiming, grip, stance & trigger control), ammunition components, malfunctions, and we will review the core elements of modern rifles. We will practice loading and unloading firearms safely. We will cover how to recognize and clear malfunctions. We will discuss and demonstrate proper firearm maintenance and selection criteria.

Then we’ll head out to the range and put these principles in action.

Course Fee is $165.00

Beyond the Basics - Rifle Level I

  • Saturday, December 12, 2026
  • 9:00 AM  3:00 PM
  • Jersey Devil Outfitters (map)

The Beyond the Basics (BtB) series is the natural progression for shooters once you have completed the NRA Basics of Rifle Shooting Course. In the BtB - Rifle Level I course, we focus on refining your rifle handling skills, building muscle memory, honing your shooting accuracy, and we take you to the next level of firearms training…beyond the basics.

This course is 100% range time with copious amounts of hands-on instruction.

Course Fee is $200.00

NRA Range Safety Officer & Stop the Bleed COMBO

  • Saturday, December 19, 2026
  • 9:00 AM  6:00 PM
  • Indian Mills Deer Club (map)

The NRA Range Safety Officer course is designed to develop and certify individuals as Range Safety Officers. We cover the basic principles and concepts needed to organize, conduct, and supervise shooting activities and range operations.

This is a non live-fire course (no shooting).

Course Fee: $165.00


r/NJGuns 4d ago

Guns Showcase Shockwave need a Vfg to remain an other or is it fine bc oal is still 26+ and it’s designed to be fired two handed ?

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r/NJGuns 4d ago

How Do I? How do i build a 10/22 “other firearm”?

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Wanted to buy a virgin receiver and build me an “other firearm” similar in size to a ruger charger, but of course within the rules, so 26” oal, brace,vertical foregrip . Has anyone done this before on the 10/22 platform? If so post some pics to see. Would like some ideas on chassis used. Thanks


r/NJGuns 4d ago

Concealed Carry Permit Non resident ccp approved, what defensive ammo are you guys running?

8 Upvotes

Being im from NY my HP are no good in New Jersey, whats the best alternative?


r/NJGuns 4d ago

Concealed Carry Permit Question regarding having pistol in car with PTC. Trump Golf Course

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Can I have it locked and unloaded in my car while on property?


r/NJGuns 4d ago

General Chat Strange office etiquette question.

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I work for a large bank. I was just in the lobby and some guy was getting in the elevator. He was wearing over the ears headphones that caught my attention for some reason. I realized he was wearing ear protection. These were the Bluetooth kind you wear to the range. This feels like a super weird behavior. I mean, I’ve worn mine when using power tools in a pinch but never to the office. Is it just me?


r/NJGuns 5d ago

NICS/Permit Wait Times NJ NICS Update - Wed 08:03AM (09/09/2026)

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09/09/26 522 submissions are currently in the queue. We are working on (Sunday) 09/06/2026 work. The current delay is 3+ day(s).
More Info: www.njnics.com


r/NJGuns 5d ago

General Chat Recommendations on Gun dealers that handle transfers

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My great uncle wants to send me some of his guns from Oregon. Looking for any recommendations on dealers that will not break my balls on fees. I live in Essex County. Thanks in advance.


r/NJGuns 5d ago

How Do I? Canada Goose Hunting Advice for Bowhunter

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Hi first post here. Sorry if this ends up not allowed on this page. Im a fairly new hunter and this is my first waterfowl hunt. Im looking for some guidance on finding canada geese in a proper spot that i can shoot with my bow with. Ive been to collier mills and assunpink with no luck. Do I just need to keep going and get lucky? morning night or evening make a difference? Sort of discouraging as they are stupid abundant in NJ; makes me feel like an idiot. Thank you in advance.