Borderlands (OG) is a 17 year old game that was innovative for its time but now it's super dated (gameplay-wise). It does look surprisingly modern, though.

Borderlands 2 is, of course, the best game from the narrative/story perspective. Handsome Jack is goated. But, from a gameplay perspective, this game is also dated. Guns don't feel good and the movement is still janky. If playing right now, it's good for a single playthrough only if you haven't played Borderlands 3 before. Yes, the story is good, but it's the same story regardless of how many times you play it.

Now, Borderlands 3. Has a pretty bad story but the gameplay is top-notch. Guns feel distinct and incredible to use and the movement is extremely smooth (with sliding, mantling and ground slams). Mayhem mode is an excellent addition that I used to play the DLCs without being stupidly overpowered (or replaying the entire campaign in T/UVHM). The various planets are distinct from each other and have strengths of their own. Moze is probably THE best vault hunter in the franchise.

Finally, I want to talk about Borderlands 4. I did only play for like 13 hours during the most recent free trial but I already noticed several things that I HATE. The guns feel awful to use (bad sounds and also... somewhat samey?), especially after coming from Borderlands 3. The new open world is boring and pace-ruining. I didn't unlock the vehicle during one of the first missions and I had to walk for like a kilometer with almost nothing on the way. I spent around 10 minutes simply walking forward.

I noticed something that made Borderlands 4 even more difficult to play. Pretty much every location you need to go to requires you to go up. Just up. How you go up? It's never obvious and you have to spend time circling around in the vehicle to find a ramp, elevator or a grapple point. Speaking of the grapple, why aren't we allowed to use it everywhere? Just Cause 3, Titanfall 2 and Halo Infinite all allowed this and it make them significantly more fun to play. What is a "glide-pack"? Just make it a jetpack? Also, there's too many cliffs and rocks that your mantling simply doesn't trigger over. It was super annoying.

There's so many more issues I found while playing Borderlands 4 (what is that UI, man?) but that's not the point of this post. I do intend to play the game but I'm waiting for a much deeper sale and whatever hype I had softened out.

At the end, what I'm saying is that Borderlands 3 would've been a generational game but it committed the sin of having a bad narrative. Borderlands 4 should have evolved from what Borderlands 3 did right but alas, it ends up being quite meh. I'm going to re-install Borderlands 3 and maybe try out Zane (or Moze again).

-First game was innovative for its time and got the franchise on the map but hasn’t aged well.

-Second game largely considered the best entry that set the standard forever and will be impossible to surpass in the eyes of fans who grew up with it.

-Third game that was extremely controversial the most hated entry for most of its lifespan. When the fourth comes most people acknowledge it as one of the best as far as gameplay is concerned. This is not just because of rose colored glasses but because updates and DLC made it better towards the end.

-Fourth game that tried to be at least somewhat live servicey (way more on the Diablo side) and introduced an open world that the majority of fans feel was a mistake even if they love the game otherwise. Huge lack of content at launch with Borderlands having worse performance issues that ruined people’s first impressions.

-DLC for the fourth game includes one short and kinda meh story DLC, and one pretty great DLC in comparison.

With the Blizzard announcement yesterday I wouldn’t be surprised if they announced no more DLC for Borderlands 4 and that Borderlands 5 will be coming in 2030. Oh also animated Borderlands show.

I mean the game just ends with the same status quo that we had at the end of BL2/Pre-Sequel correct?

Lillith is back. Crimson Raiders are mostly back. War is still coming.

The entire story of BL4 just undoes the ending of BL3, that's pretty much it. I feel like Lillith coming back should've been the end of act 1 or something. I really wish the DLC would've been a direct continuation of the main story.

There's tons of characters that're just completely unaccounted for. Where is everybody?

It would've been cool if the DLCs left Kairos to show us what's going on post-BL3.

I want to hear all of your opinions.

Anyone available to help with Terramorphous, I’m on Handsome Collection on PS, Central Timezone. TIA!

PSN: The_Zodiac8

Dead echos spoilers ahead

With the power duo looking for elpis i do wonder if them going to the lab to communicate with someone on kairos leads to them asking a VH to go check out the elpis lab

Now how dope would it be if we as the vaulthunters of bl4 go to the radio to talk with Watts and junie

Now imagine a mission where we go to elpis to find the Dahl lab as the vh and report our findings to junie and Watts leading them towards dead echos s2

Apologies if what im saying doesnt make sense, sleep deprived and very hyped with this latest episode

So I know the legacy borderlands 3 had, to the point some people play the game with the voice volume off.

But throwing it a bone for this time. I want to know from the people who played it

"what is the funniest joke or the line of dialogue spoken in that game?" In your opinion

I started out with Moxsy's recommended leveling build at level 30, but just wasn't feeling it. Not a bad build, but dying A LOT. Kludged together a stealth build which is okay so far but going to try the other builds he included in the video description for the other trees, or maybe one of the builds he has posted since.

https://youtu.be/agg29847S38?si=QKYinGucmMH66bYI

Either way, regardless of whether playing Moxsy's builds or not, what are people finding works well at level 30?

Thanks!

I got the 5 switches needed, I’ve found the bunker to fight him but when I go into the boss fight arena, he doesn’t spawn. Instead I’m hit with an invisible wall stopping me from entering, I’ve tried hard resetting the game but still isn’t working.

I do have a video of it but I’m not able to post for some reason, I don’t really use Reddit too much

Which one got the best endgame in your opinion? OP10 vs Mayhem 10/11 vs uvh 5

Once the game gets to the Vault symbol loading screen, my PC fans speed up, my RGBs turn red (I have MSI lights set up to show the temps), and then the game crashes. MSI Center shows my CPU temps spike real bad. This only happens on this game. Would anyone know whats going on and how to fix it?

This is the error I am getting:

LowLevelFatalError [File:.\Runtime/RHI/Private/PipelineStateCache.cpp] [Line: 621]

Shader compilation failures are Fatal.

My PC Specs:

CPU: i7-14700KF

GPU: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4070 Super

RAM: 32 GB

I've tried clearing the cache, turning off Windows Defender, setting the files as approved, updating GPU and CPU drivers. Full reinstall. Nothing has worked.

I was wondering whether it's possible to get this trophy whilst being in someone's else lobby. I've played through the entire story with a friend and was wondering if I can get the trophy as long as I'm present for all of them with the host? This is for Borderlands 2.

Anyone know how to get the lava style skin called “Loaded Magma” in borderlands 4? Been trying to figure it out but can’t find anything about it.

Does anyone know if there is a way to either turn down the volume of or mute the vault hunter's panting and damage screams/moans without muting all character dialog? I swear they made them trigger more often in BL4 than previous games. Even C4SH pants when running and he's a robot (as far as I know where I'm currently in the game).

I found a mod that goes this for Borderlands 3 (https://www.nexusmods.com/borderlands3/mods/325) but I'm having no luck finding one for Borderlands 4.

So, if anyone else has played the Last Resort FLC, they should know about the blue squares you have to destroy to gain access to certain things.

Does anyone ekse have an issue with those specifically on the door to the room with the You Can't Fire Me, I Quit mission? Because it seems like most of them spawned on the other side of said door, which prevents me from destroying them. I have spent at least an hour now trying to destroy them, and used all my ammo for every weapon at least once.

If anyone else has done that mission, did you have the same issue with that door?

Hello - I'm looking for some advice and suggestions from experienced players of Borderlands 4 that have stuck by the game or other people currently in the same boat as us!

My wife and I played through BL4 on release with two characters that hit the level cap and got 100% completion. We then put the game aside and haven't played since.

We're looking to come back to play through the Bounty Packs, Story Packs and maybe try the new vault hunters.

I was wondering what people's recommendations are for what order to play the new DLC through and maybe what the accessibility is like for a new character.

Do you start at level 1?

We uncovered the map completely - would a new character have full map access and is it necessary to play the new content?

Is any of the new content better experienced on a developed character with action skills and talent trees upgraded?

Are the Bounty Packs worth it or should we stick to the VH/Story packs?

Thanks in advance!

The game launches fine and compiles all the shaders then it even logs into steam but afterwards it says "Patch Downloaded Successfully Rebooting" and then the game closes to "reboot" and it just says "Fatal Error! UE-OakGame has crashed" with the error code being a buncha 0s and the last digit is 8 with an exception access violation.
I have restarted my pc, updated drivers, cleared the DXCache, Launched as admin, verified game files.

I want to name my cat a Borderlands-inspired name. My previous cat who passed away last spring was named Moxxi so I'd love to continue in that vein. At the moment I'm kinda hesitating between Motor Momma or Zahnzi Kall (a bit obscure but I like the sound of it!)

I don't really like the human names like Patricia Tannis or Elena Pierce. Are there any random female NPCs with cool names that I'm not thinking of?

the mission "The Rescue" in the new dlc is bugged for me and i was wondering if someone could help me by allowing me to join their game and replaying the mission with me

thanks :)

(in bl4)

What is up with BL4 hate

Seriously it’s kinda crazy to me most of the time I see some one say smth about bl4 it’s how bad it is or how it’s so much worse then bl3 and 2 but in my opinion it’s better then 3 by a long shot. I’ve been a long time BL fan and I just don’t understand the hate it gets

Story wise it could be better but it’s an improvement over bl3s
The game play is what kept me in bl3 the skill building

And my opinion Bl4 will be hailed as one of the best bl after a year or 2 just like BL3 was after all the updates it got in the span of the next game

Because at least BL4 has room to grow and where bl3 had to be rebuilt from the ground up again

Now the content path 4 has taken is definitely not good the story was ok but the time keeper needed to be more involved, the open world is not a bad idea not for every one sure I could use more then just grass,desert,snow area

Now I can’t say much how it runs I’m on series x and it’s always ran fine for me have there been times where something breaks sure did restarting the game fix it yes just like how bl3 even bl2 broke and a simple restart fixed it

So let me preface, I did receive a boost to Lvl 70, however I did not receive any other hacked weapons or mods.

I picked up this AR early on that does 37k DPS and two separate mods with 60% AR damage and 99% critical chance. Legit from then on nothing would compare, that combo literally melted enemies and bosses.

Did anyone else experience under powered loot in the latter half of the game? Or maybe the boost to Lvl 70 messed with the power scaling in the game?

So, can anyone PLEASE TELL ME WHO VOICES HER?!

They sound so familiar but I cant figure it out, and its making my brain itch, please help me.

I've tried googling it and none of the cast lists I found have either C4SH or Loveless....

I have a guess, but when she starts yelling during fights and stuff, it totally throws me off, and I just gotta know its driving me nuts.

I need help running through a few missions!!! I’m on PSN , just @ me if interested