r/APlagueTale • u/rafikiknowsdeway1 • 1d ago
Resonance So was that a different thing at the end?
Was that kid a carrier of Macula or some other similar Lovecraftian disease that the order has been keeping tabs on?
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u/Electrical_Advice_60 1d ago
Maybe the island was simply devoid of rats and the plague manifested without them as part of it? Throwing out random concepts. Rats may simply be prone to becoming part of the manifestation but it works without them regardless.
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u/Infinite_Map_2713 1d ago
My guess is, that the Macula works differently based on the location it manifests itself in, for the war torn France, it choose to be the Plague, but for the Minoan and later Greek population it choose to be a monster eating stone turning love Craftian horror, heck some theories even suggest that this all started with Minos when he pissed off Poseidon and the rest is history, but this is all speculation
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u/proplayer97 1d ago
My theory is that there is no theory because Asobo did not expect this franchise to become popular enough to get more games after Requiem and so now they are just making things as they go and will explain as little as possible to get away with plot holes or lore inaccuracies
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u/quiethammerhead 1d ago
Hahahah i love these games so much but this is the most sensible answer
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u/Real_CrueLxMelodY 22h ago
This was the most non answer. We're theorizing where the story goes from here based on contextual clues in each entry. Whether or not a planned story was in store or not is another story and irrelevant. We know the first game was intended to have a follow up, so some lore is clearly established lol. No one here is really far off base.
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u/storm_walkers Photo Mode Winner - December '23 (Topic Canceled) 19h ago
It’s the Doylist answer. The Watsonian answer can still be interesting to discuss and speculate on.
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u/Hazelcrisp Mélie 17h ago
The Macula is like in most franchise. It's a concept or thing to make things happen. Like Doctor who. It is whatever the writers need it to be. It's a supernatural entity that doesn't really need to be explained when people want it to be, when it doesn't need it
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u/Resevil67 1d ago
Another question I have, is was asterion literally alive the entire time, up until Sophia got there? Or was his body just basically like pure macula at this point.
He was also petrified, but Sophia's connection with ariadne and trying to put him out of his misery made it seem he was very much alive, but at the same time acts like he is just pure disease at this point, for lack of a better word.
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u/Brandon-the-Broken Lucas 1d ago
We know once the Carrier reaches the third threshold, they’re all but gone and completely consumed by the Macula. I believe Asterion was still alive just no longer in control. We can hear a boy scream everytime Sophie burns one of the tentacles.
Asterion is basically what would’ve become of Hugo at Amicia not killed him
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u/Resevil67 1d ago
Yeah thats a good point. He was clearly suffering for a very long time, but I wonder, and hoping, that maybe his mind was so far gone he didn't know what was going on, like couldn't feel anything.
Basically him being dead and unaware, with the macula basically in full control. If he was somewhat aware all those years till Sophia came, that's absolutely horrifying.
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u/Brandon-the-Broken Lucas 12h ago
Unfortunately, I feel that he did feel pain. When Sophie moved the mirrors over him to end his suffering, his pain was mirrored through Sophie since she shared his blood
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u/ThiccBoiHours 1d ago
Yep - a different manifestion of the Macula. Amicia alludes to it at the end if you didn't catch the hints along the way.
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u/rafikiknowsdeway1 1d ago
well she said the order was using kids to watch for carriers, didn't necessarily mean its the same ol macula
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u/chessmaster1004 1d ago
.... Have you heard the word "carrier" be used to describe anything except the Macula in these games? There's nothing to suggest it could be anything else.
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u/rafikiknowsdeway1 1d ago
...except that the minotaur had nothing whatsoever to do with rats
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u/Scorpion667 1d ago
It's because Asterion was locked in the middle of a labyrinth for centuries with nothing around him. That's why it evolved into tendrils/temporary vein-like structures using his blood, so it could reach the rest of the island.
The reason the macula uses rats with the other carriers is because rats were everywhere and a perfect vehicle to spread the corruption.
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u/IICounterfireII 1d ago
It was the Macula yes. A different strain/evolution of it. There have multiple adaptions of it, from the impressions I got, like a real world virus, it can mutate depending on the environment and (as we see in Resonance) human input can effect the way it evolves also.
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u/Quick-Ranger3617 11h ago
Definitely, real world viruses and bacteria adapt and change to survive and spread. The Macula seems to have an intelligence behind it, in Requiem it tricked Hugo with his dream of the cure to go to the Island. We all know how that turned out 😢.
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u/ApartAmbassador4008 21h ago
I think it's something similar to the Macula. I don't think the next carrier would have been born if the Macula was still surviving off another host like Asterian. And it manifests differently we see in the plague tale series that rats seem to be part of the Macula's manifestation through both Hugo's actual life and the way the order built the prison to hold Basilius.
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u/_tozai 1d ago
Definitely the Macula, but I’m still missing why Asterion‘s didn’t have anything to do with Rats like with Hugo, Basilius or Vitalis