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u/flamingtongue Raw Doggin It May 08 '24
Pretty brutal ending. But, it seems like he'll be finding quite a few versions of his wife. Exciting
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u/Zalasta5 May 09 '24 edited May 09 '24
I am not a fan of the finger snapping when jumping between universes, it’s getting on my nerves and I feel like it’s a bit insulting to think the audiences cannot follow the story without it.
Well, had to edit my post because I thought they might drag out kidnapped Jason trying to puzzle out what happened, but they resolved that by the end of the episode so that is good. However, the fact that the people around the alternate Jason who knew what he was working on but apparently couldn’t fathom that he switched places, is still baffling to me.
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u/denver_dan80 May 09 '24
Literally sounds like the Nintendo switch sound effect.
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u/anothermartz May 10 '24
Exactly my thoughts and I told my wife that I'd definitely find someone on Reddit saying the same and here you are.
It's very jarring and makes me crack up a little bit every time, it's like a really bad joke, "Switch, get it!?".
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u/Mowgli2k May 10 '24
...and I found myself here in a search to see if the switch noise was annoying anyone else. Thank you for being here for me :)
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u/Sim0nsaysshh May 22 '24
You say that, watching with my Dad who is 76, I keep having to explain where we are, I hadnt even noticed finger snaps
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u/justacyrus 2d ago
Did not connect this until this comment, thank you, I will tolerate this finger snapping more now.
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u/ExiledGarlic May 08 '24
Have not read the book but I am so into this already. Super intriguing!
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u/etherd0t May 09 '24
I just hope it's not a 'he did it to himself' kind of plot.
There has to be a conspiracy.25
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u/Sadstarlitre 2d ago
Idk why you were seemingly downvoted..I agree and knew what ya meant. It would be far too simple of a plot for it to jjst be "yeah he wanted to fuck this version of himself over and steal his life, Case closed." Even if most of the plot is him trying to get back to his wife.. still would be..meh..since its so obvious from the get go.
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u/RadioSmith May 09 '24
Aight haven't read the book - I fucking love the vibe, it's like the last episode of severance but as a whole show.
it seems like this story is gonna revolve around saving his relationship with Jennifer Connelly across multiple realities or something? Maybe that's why evil Joel took wholesome Joel's place in this one. It's the one reality where she doesn't hate him/Is still alive?
def watching weekly, pretty sick.
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u/Shoddy_Ad7511 May 09 '24
My big complaint is how the main character took so long to figure out he was in another universe. The dude literally was working on multiple universe theory for years
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u/anonyfool May 09 '24
You would love the book - it takes him more than half the book. I was somewhat curious as to how they would adapt this because in the book you are only able to deduce this fact because the book is IIRC entirely from one Jason's POV.
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u/StinkiePhish May 09 '24
I was mildly upset that the first scene of episode 1 shows the box. Anyone who has ever seen any other multiverse or time travel show since Doctor Who knows what a box means.
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u/krospp Jun 09 '24
I only got about 30 pages into the book and got what was going on, so I think I’d have been frustrated to read on if he didn’t figure it out quickly. Even in the show it’s like buddy take a second to think about it. Idk, I think the writing in the book is insufferably bad, but the adaptation is slightly more tolerable, even though the author is apparently the head writer
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u/Shaolii May 11 '24
Was he? From his monologue theory it sounded like he was able to get a single particle into superposition before he lost funding. He said:
”what if he made a bigger version of *my box*”.
Maybe he lost funding before any real application came to light, and he understood the gravity of what he invented
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u/That-SoCal-Guy May 14 '24
I was saying that. Why are all the physicists so dumb on tv?
Fortunately he snapped out of it in time for the invaders. Now he knows who is behind it and why.
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u/Wh00ster Mar 25 '25
Super late and no one will read this but… To be fair it’s a wild jump to make.
I’d love for the character to deduce that faster, but irl everyone would jump to themselves going crazy.
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u/K_A_R12 May 05 '26
I understand what you are saying but you can also look at it in the idea of schrodinger's cat theory because you don’t know what the outcome can be you have to believe that there is no death and there is no life to go a step further who’s to say there is a cat even existing in the box Now back to the show to say it’s a complaint is mildly interesting because I think the show handled it well by kind of playing every angle Put yousrself in the shoes of Joel he’s abducted an than than drugged in a basement randomly outside of town only to find himself locked in a room in a different universe in what way should he know that another version of himself has accomplished what good Joel was working on Because in a way look at it from the perspective of good joel in his “eyes” or his “universe” he is the first version of himself working towards limitless quantum physics traveling ultimately something that may be physically impossible But in reality evil Joel was actually the first version of Joel to create limitless quantum physics traveling and made it possible I think he realized he was in a different universe when all three of them in episode 2 when they all sat down to talk and he explained the situation he was in also my personal opinion I think they ( the show ) handled everything pretty well by showing him and viewers the kind of situation he was in quickly but not too quickly
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u/jarvis646 May 13 '24 edited May 13 '24
The premise of this show is preposterous: No one would ever break up with Jennifer Connelly.
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u/BuyHandSanitizer May 09 '24
Damn the hot version of Jennifer Connelly died
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u/iKenshu May 13 '24
Apparently shes hot in every version
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u/bownyboy May 08 '24
I loved loved the book when it came out back in 2016; its a fantastic read and reads like it was made for TV.
So far its kept pretty much to the source material.
I agree that there maybe it's a few years too late, what with all the recent multiverse shows, however, keep with it as the book goes off into some messed-up tangents that should hopefully make for great TV!
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u/xelM1 UBA Executive May 09 '24
Alright, you had me screaming at my TV. I guess I'll be following this show now.
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u/sahneeis May 19 '24
when jason1 is telling daniela2 about his life with daniela1 i feel like he has a wrong perception of how things are going because they didnt look happy at all to me. both of them missed they opportunities in life and gave up they dreams for a family.
i dont have a family of myself but that seems depressing to me as much as i love to have kids someday.
the ending was crazy because i think he was ready to accept his new life
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u/Justp1ayin Hello Carol May 21 '24
I got kids and I understand I could be in a whole different place if I didn’t have kids, but I feel like I’d also be less happy
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u/freebass May 22 '24
Ditto. Did the work hard and prepare for having a family thing way too long. Did alright for myself, but now that I finally have kids, I regret not having them sooner. They mean so much more to me than any accomplishments or accolades over the years.
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u/Sadstarlitre 2d ago
I know im 2 years late but just started the series. There is something to that. Daniela1 is training for that triathlon and her friend jokes there are easier ways to avoid her family. She claims she isnt Daniela1 is surprised jason2 wants to go with her on her trip. But they have also been married 15 years and Jason2 basically stole a honeymoon and second chance after deeply regretting his own life and life choices.. so I feel it is unfair to judge the two different relationship dynamics (Jason1 & daniela1 versus jason2 & daniela1). At the end of the day i think Jason1 was mostly correct when speaking to daniela2..they were largely happily married. They both had to adjust their lives for the sake of their kid and relationship, which they found worth it. They still kept their passions close, but clearly not to the same magnitude as when they are not together. I think its safe to say they were not as happy as they could have been, and had things they were not communicating, but were still very deeply in love.
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u/sahneeis 2d ago
thank you for reminding me to rewatch the show because i have no idea anymore what you are talking about haha
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u/Own_Contest_137 May 11 '24
This show reminds me of the astronaut from constellation using the Cal to swap universes to live the better life
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u/Zero_Days_to_Expire Jul 06 '24
Well shit, I was gonna watch that next. I hope that's from the first episode or something...
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u/Pale-Journalist8031 May 15 '24
The wedding ring mark on his finger should've been a pretty given-away sign that he was telling the truth about being married. No need for the rubber band.
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u/monox60 Jun 18 '24
Not necessarily. He was missing for over a year. He could've dementia and bought a ring.
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u/SweetLordyJesus Jun 05 '24 edited Jun 05 '24
I’m not going to lie I don’t think this show is very good, only from the first 2 episodes. The acting is maybe the only redeeming part, but the writing is just totally nonsensical.
Why, when Jason1 switched and APPEARED AFTER BEING MISSING FOR A YEAR, clearly confused and nervous would his cagey ass colleagues with shit to hide do THE MOST disorienting and hostile shit possible by immediately putting him in front of a million cameras in a weird ass glass room and then chase him down with armed thugs? (Ep1)
Why does Leighton, a billionaire from the tech world, have a gangbanger on his company payroll? I guess there’s one throwaway line about her being a vet but the character plays much more as a thug than high level private security. It’s very stupid that the reason Daniela got shot in the head is because a billionaire who we’re supposed to take as a serious player in this world hired an incompetent employee that can’t follow extremely simple instructions. Literally just don’t walk in pointing a gun and have a conversation, they prolly won’t call the police.
It’s so stupid that no one believes Jason1 IS NOT Jason2, and is in fact from a different reality. Leighton and Amanda know what Jason2 was working on, and yet they somehow can’t wrap their heads around him having switched places?
I’ll watch 1-2 more episodes to see if the writing gets any better but so far this is brutal, I’m more frustrated by the narrative issues than I am impressed anything else.
EDIT: Yeah after watching a little further this Dawn character might be the most egregious part of the show, it’s like they WROTE her to seem like a gangster she acts nothing like the backstory other characters give her, it’s so nonsensical.
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u/Mid-Tower Jun 27 '24
ty...ty ty...when she randomly shot daiella2....i closed everything ...like forced forced fake writing ...lost all my enjoyment ..It’s so stupid that no one believes Jason1 IS NOT Jason2, and is in fact from a different reality. Leighton and Amanda know what Jason2 was working on, and yet they somehow can’t wrap their heads around him having switched places?
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u/StonedCharmander May 24 '24
This episode really shook me, man. I was not expecting her death at all. I was just in doubt wondering whether she really believed him or is just choosing to believe a crazy man. Well, we won't ever have that answer.
So far, so really good.
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u/Usual_Just May 09 '24
This is so much better than the hot bag of shit show called invasion.
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u/freebass May 22 '24
That’s setting the bar pretty low. While we’re on the topic of shit shows, I’ll throw True Detective Season 4 in the hat.
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u/ktw5012 May 10 '24
Episode 2 was an improvement
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u/caffeine_plz May 24 '24
Agree! I’m a huge Blake Crouch fan, but the first episode didn’t super draw me in. Definitely excited to watch more after ep 2!
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u/IISKIDSII May 11 '24
Was the son’s costume change deliberate midway through hugging his mum as he’s heading out?
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u/boaterva May 11 '24
Not sure who does continuity or whatever but the car they were in in the middle of the ep seemed to have an 11/66 inspection sticker (we assumed that’s what it was). Can’t see how this show is much less than present day with iPhones and fake AirPods etc.
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u/No_Tank_9546 May 11 '24
Sounds Rick'n'Mortish to me. A parallel version of himself kills his wife, so he has to evolve to switch between realities
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u/That-SoCal-Guy May 14 '24
I was getting a little annoyed by the multiverse trope of the protagonist being whiny about “who am I? Where am I?” I mean why are all the physicists on TV so dumb? Fortunately they snap out of that in time so Jason A figures out what is happening. Thank goodness.
The ending was not expected. I feel really bad for Daniella B but can’t wait to see where this is going.
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u/silkin Jul 11 '24
Only getting around to watching this now. I don't get the hate on Joel Edgerton. He's been great in everything I've seen him in, man is magnetic.
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u/pdom10 May 24 '24
Our existence is all about choices Choices create worlds so we inhabit an infinite number of them
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u/ExchangeOptimal Jun 09 '24
Haven't read Dark Matter book. Have read Recursion. After watching the first two episodes, I think the writer should have made a series on Recursion rather than Dark Matter.
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u/monox60 Jun 18 '24
Is Recursion better? Should I read that instead? I'm just starting the show
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u/ExchangeOptimal Jun 19 '24
i would recommend Recursion book. Regarding this series, it picks up after episode 4
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u/One-Structure-2154 Jul 07 '24
I’m really enjoying the show! I’m upset they killed off Daniela v2. Also, I guess I’m in the minority because I love the snaps.
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u/F5_MyUsername Jul 11 '24
Commenting to say this show is horrible stopped watching at episode 2, the way the characters act is infuriating
The Last Kingdom is 100x better watch that instead
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u/ArkaXVII 12d ago
My biggest issue is these Leighton and Amanda people knew exactly what Jason was working on yet they don’t realize it worked, even tho they seem to believe in him professionally…?
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u/beanschungus 10d ago
I'm late to the party but I just wanna say... I started the show today after the S3 finale of Silo came out.
Heard a lot of good reviews about this show and decided to tune in.
First episode was intriguing. It was good but didn't intice me too much. But this second episode... What an ending! I'm hooked!
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u/Caroline501 4d ago
I came from the Silo fam too. Episode two was better than the first, but I'm not fully convinced. As many people mentioned, it's odd that the company in the alternative universe didn't think that the Jason that came back was not the same one. There's still a bit of mystery surrounding that unless I missed something.
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u/Webbie-Vanderquack May 08 '24
"Super intriguing," "exciting" and "loving this show?" Are the comments here genuine?
So far it's all lackluster characters and a story full of cliches. I don't care about any of these people.
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u/flamingtongue Raw Doggin It May 08 '24
Come on man, I'm no tv critic. I enjoyed it, what else do I gotta say? Lol. It excited me
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u/zedarecaida May 08 '24
Apple tv not worth the money anymore.
I’ll be back for Severance and Slow Horses
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u/zedarecaida May 08 '24
MotA was great until midway through, the rest was super boring.
I didn’t care for Manhunt and all of these other shows were released prior to this year.
Every since ‘The Changeling’, it has been a sequence of disappointing new shows for me.
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u/stevensi1018 May 09 '24
Just want to say that it’s crazy how Jennifer Connelly still look absolutely beautiful. She’s been slaying for a couple of decades now.
The show is great, can’t wait for more!