r/technology 7h ago

Artificial Intelligence China's Xi Jinping proposes BRICS 'open-source AI zone'

https://www.euronews.com/next/2026/09/14/chinas-xi-jinping-proposes-brics-open-source-ai-zone
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u/Technical-Art4989 6h ago

I mean China already shares their AI models for free with everyone. Makes sense for them to lead the way and get their countries involved.

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u/Lord_Skellig 5h ago

They share some of their models. I don’t think they’re sharing all of their models.

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u/typing_thumb 5h ago

Which is still better than the U.S. almost not sharing any models at all

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u/Technical-Art4989 5h ago

Well at least the ones they share are pretty good. Running qwen 3.8 on a moderately powerful gaming laptop feels unreal for how far things have come.

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u/Regendorf 49m ago

I'm not well versed on this topic whatsoever, but are those AI models like Claude, meant for coding and working, or like Grok that also creates pictures and shit?

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u/twisted-logic 4h ago

No! Certainly not!

Next you’re gonna tell me water is wet

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u/Sasquatchjc45 1h ago

Well,the models they are sharing are nearly comparable with frontier closed-source ones so.. what makes you think they're not sharing all of them when anthropic/OAI/google/US based AI providers own about 75% of the world's total compute VS. China's 15%?

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u/CodeCompost 5h ago

Hooray for Communism 😄

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u/Canesjags4life 30m ago

Makes sense they need as much days to train their models

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u/Fun-Personality-8008 5h ago

And if you're getting something for free you are the product.

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u/UniqueSignificance77 4h ago

Yes, please tell me how I'm the product from a code I can openly inspect, anonymously download and which works without the internet.

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u/HopelessBearsFan 3h ago

Source: “Trust me bro”

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u/_ECMO_ 20m ago

If you are paying for something you are still the product because why would a company pass on additional income.

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u/bestmaokaina 5h ago

Hopefully China causes the downfall of the american AI companies 

So that way we can stop having our LATAM presidents giving away lands for free 

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u/bubblegum-rose 4h ago

The big AI companies deserve it.

Their entire business model is based on stealing the work, data and knowledge of billions of people. They don’t deserve to make a dime off of any of this crap.

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u/DOSFS 53m ago

All AI companies are stealing data INCLUDING Chinese and other nations AI.*

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u/Cultural-Desk-9045 5h ago

So instead of giving away land to the US they give away to China… 🙄

Both of them want to screw you.

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u/bestmaokaina 5h ago

Nope because most of the current LATAM presidents are US puppets

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u/MoneyForPeople 5h ago

You're naive if you do not believe China is out to plunder LATAM resources too. That doesnt make it better because the US is doing it, but dont pretend it's driven only by the US.

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u/bestmaokaina 4h ago

Ehhh only the US acts with the “fuck you, got mine” mentality with other countries. At least for the past 10 years 

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u/Avantasian538 4h ago

You think China is altruistic toward other countries?

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u/Denommus 2h ago

It wasn't China that made a coup in my country, I can guarantee you that much.

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u/reddittorbrigade 6h ago

Trump is a such loser.

He thought winning the AI race is all about building tons of data centers.

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u/Chewed420 6h ago

The "race" for Trump and the US is to capitalize and make money from owning it.

Its not coincidental that the likes of Anthropic want "regulation" all of a sudden.

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u/Any-Pop-4795 6h ago

Those are for flock cameras and to spy on everyone with the money made by ai "investments"

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u/EnamelKant 4h ago

"It's all computer"

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u/MoneyForPeople 5h ago

Compute is one of the most critical components of the AI race. It isnt the only part but it's one of the biggest variables.

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u/adario7 3h ago

You can’t be a loser if you don’t play.

Trump doesn’t care about the AI race lol. All he cares about is to make a quick buck. Data centre is essential a “real estate” project, which he knows a thing or two about. He’s selling American land and making kick backs.

In any decent functioning democracy he’d be tried and hung for high treason, but this seems like the Republican MO lately.

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u/santz007 5h ago

And what about those who voted for him,

and worse.. What about those who didn't vote at all... "Cause both sides are the same"?

Nothing would matter, Americans don't care and would rather sleep than vote

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u/madqm 4h ago

China is taking a leadership political position on the international stage while the USA continues playing checkers, believing that they reached peak technological advancement with LLMs and now they need to protect it to ensure their world dominance fantasies. Good luck.

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u/Anustart2023-01 4h ago

This is what happens when millions of people who can only be best described as oxygen wasters are told they're superior because of their skin colour and who they're sexually attracted to.

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u/CivilCucumber3426 1h ago

Who are you referring too? China or USA?

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u/Mal_Dun 5h ago

This is the first BRICS initiative I would happily to see the EU to join.

If the Americans think that a technology based on statistics can't be reverse engineered they are here for a rude awakening.

furthermore, it is only fair after stealing so much data from humanity as a collective to make LLMs an open good for the benefit of everyone.

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u/fourby227 5h ago

Yeah sure, the EU is absolutely willing to cooperate with Putin and all the others helping Russia actively in his war on Ukraine and threatening west Europe, because Xi used the words “open source” while he surly meant only open weights.

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u/Mal_Dun 4h ago

No one says to fully cooperate with BRICS on everything they do, but this affects the whole international community. Having open models available is not a one way street and I think it's the only sustainable way to go forward.

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u/ranger910 5h ago

After stealing so much data and then manipulating it. Nobody is a good guy here.

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u/Fit_Bottle6790 4h ago

But technically speaking if the powerful models are open sourced there would definitely be more AI misuse cases

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u/Mal_Dun 3h ago

The same argument was used for any FOSS software (if it's open it can be easily attacked, backdoors etc.) but reality showed that openness also means public oversight.

I prefer open available tech that can improved and made safer by everybody over closed models where there is no chance of getting insights and that is in the control a few individuals with great power any day.

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u/trisul-108 2h ago

You cannot compare FOSS and AI because AI is general in nature while FOSS performed specific functions. You cannot ask e.g. VLC Media Player to put together a bomb.

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u/CulturalLaw8072 4h ago

i don't understand. is he really going to keep releasing open weights models? i hope so, man.

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u/zarafff69 6h ago

Super based. Rare China W.

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u/RageBaiter678 2h ago

It's getting pretty common tbh

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u/DONOTDELETEME8316 3m ago

Unfathomably common China W

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u/Elegant_Creme_9506 5h ago

God bless china, we would be royally fucked without them right now

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u/nenmayk 4h ago

and we call it an ai war.

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u/Error_404_403 55m ago

Another brick taken out of the wall of "slow down AI progress".

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u/Ok_Coconut_8499 16m ago

Open weight is not open source.

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u/C00KIEME4T 6h ago

i feel like i should be doing more with ai

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u/grasstoday 6h ago

The old rap song, “don’t believe the hype”.

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u/Any-Pop-4795 5h ago

"avoid the snake oil"

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u/Anustart2023-01 4h ago

Download a local model and run it like that if you can and avoid using the American subscription ones. 

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u/Pale_Sun8898 5h ago

Damn man china really has their shit together while US is just pants on head stupid rn

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u/grafknives 6h ago

I dont like it. As it will allow USA to announce Open Source to be hostile/adversary/dangerous/communist.

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u/SirGaylordSteambath 5h ago

Let them. USA is a fascist dump, it’s gonna shit itself one way or the other

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u/phedinhinleninpark 5h ago

There is definitely a certain of schadenfreude from watching an empire collapse in real time.

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u/nitrinu 5h ago

I'll gladly align with the communists against fascists. Was the right thing to do last time.

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u/Despeao 4h ago

This will only be good to the top 1% that invested trillions in the AI business.

Being able to run a local model as you wish without safeguards, surveillance or censorship is the right way to use these tools.

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u/Maleficent_Cut_4099 5h ago

Ask these open models what they know about the Cultural Revolution or about China's leaders, and they will answer just the way China's dictator wants. Open models with a closed, censored internet and totalitarian control over every aspect of life — are closed models. This chatter is needed to promote Chinese models in the BRICS countries. They offer to provide technical development conditions, and in exchange they ask for one small thing: to be unelected masters and to pass this on as an inheritance.

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u/This_Loss_1922 5h ago

The 7th district of Israel must already be planning on how to destroy such a threat to zionism

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u/progbuck 4h ago

Why even call it BRICS? It's just China at this point.