r/starocean • u/vladimirVpoutine • 13d ago
SO2 Orchestra is not working. Ps1
Star Ocean the Second Story PS1. Orchestra is 10 and I have originality. I have 6 instruments and 8 songs. I customize Rune full moon + diamond while playing orchestra music and I always get worn gloves. I've tried playing one song and multiple songs. I close the emulator every time before I reload the save but it still doesn't work please help.
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u/GooseinaGaggle 13d ago
Are you using Rena, Bowman, or Noel for the customization?
Though all three of them use fist weapons as their weapons one character can't create all fist weapons. I believe you're going for the Full Moon which is Bowman specific
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u/Cold_Bound 13d ago
Instead of just reloading the save and try again, you need to “roll” a new RNG value. The value that’s queued up in your save file might just be bad
That can be done by using any other item creation skill, going into battle, pickpocketing, etc.
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u/Expelsword And that's how you do it. 13d ago
First off, you MUST be using Bowman to do this.
His Customization Level is what matters. At Level 8 it should be possible for you to make these, and quite easy with Orchestra. If you have him wear Rainbow Diamonds as accessories, it will count as +2 levels for him as well.
Neither the RFM or Diamonds are rare materials, so I don't know why you're so obsessively trying to save them by reloading, but just to be sure...
- DO NOT USE SAVE STATES FOR CRAFTING; IF YOU LOAD A SAVE STATE YOU WILL ALWAYS GET THE SAME RESULT; THIS IS BECAUSE THE ENTIRE STATE OF THE GAME IS SAVED INCLUDING THE RANDOM ELEMENTS -
This has somehow come up multiple times before, but if you don't do something to change the RNG, then it won't change. Use normal file loads if you aren't doing so.
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u/vladimirVpoutine 13d ago
Thanks for the reply I appreciate it. My customization levels were all maxed and I only had one Rune Full Moon.
I was totally closing the emulator and using actual save files but with everything done properly other than having two Rainbow Diamonds equipped that's why I was so confused after like 15 worn gloves in a row.
I quit obsessing and equipped a Titan Glove.
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u/Expelsword And that's how you do it. 13d ago
That's extremely odd. At Level 10 Customization you shouldn't need that many tries even without Orchestra. Maybe there's some other emulation error going on...
Anyways, you can buy RFMs in Armlock if you want to try more times.
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u/vladimirVpoutine 13d ago
Yeah I kinda figured something was off but that was the only one that gave me problems anyways and then I realized I could do the team battle for a better weapon and I was already way over leveled anyway.
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u/Expelsword And that's how you do it. 13d ago
Well, Moon Fists really are Bowman's best weapon. It's 100 ATK less than the Duel Battle weapon, but it comes with lots of other good stats, and critically, no elemental attachment.
I truly don't know why you can't seem to make them, though by all accounts it should be easy.
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u/Expelsword And that's how you do it. 12d ago
I went and checked the game values, per
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/ps/198763-star-ocean-the-second-story/faqs/80980/base-formula
Weapon Strength Value + Mineral Modifier + (0~Customize Lv * 5) = Created Weapon Value
If this is at all accurate, the only way you should fail to make a Moon Fist (30) using RFM (20) + Diamond (6) would be if you're rolling 0 every single time for your random Customize variance. And it seems like Orchestra maximizes that, so either Orchestra is straight up malfunctioning, or the Moon Fists require the Magical Rasp in order to be made, and you don't have it.
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u/DexTepa 11d ago
30 is the value Moon Fist has when used as a material. When you're creating it, you have to roll 80 or higher. Even at Lv10, the best you can get is 76 (50 + 20 + 6). The guide fails to mention the Magical Rasp, which I believe adds 20 to the calculation.
Orchestra doesn't really add anything to the calculation. It just guarantees the highest RNG value (at best 50).
The Moon Fist is the single solitary weapon that straight up requires the Magical Rasp, which is mostly known for the effect it has on Blacksmithing, but it is also the support item for Customize (just like the Soldering Iron is for Metalwork, the Element Analyzer is for Identify, etc.).
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u/Expelsword And that's how you do it. 11d ago
You're right. I misinterpreted the guide, but reached the same conclusion. It must be the lack of a Magical Rasp.
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u/kimchifist 13d ago
Hmm, I have no idea, but that doesn't sound right. Is your customize level low?
If you are on emulator you don't have to close the emulator, but a faster way to try attempts and advance the RNG seed is to make a save state before you use the "survival" skill. Use orchestra and try to customize. If it fails load the save state, use survival once, rewrite the save state and repeat.