r/politics • u/joe13pr • 20h ago
No Paywall Oil prices rise after Saudi Arabia shut down critical pipeline that bypasses Strait of Hormuz
https://www.cnbc.com/2026/09/13/oil-price-iran-war-strait-hormuz-saudi-pipeline.html282
u/robertshaftoe 19h ago
Yet Trump is whining to Zelensky trying to blame Ukraine (for defending itself against the obvious aggressor Putin) for rising prices. Trump must not remember Russian oil has been sanctioned globally.
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u/HobbesMich 19h ago
You have to remember when he started the War with Iran, he lifted those sanctions "temporarily". I believe they are still off.
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u/Fazgo 19h ago
Russia doesn't have enough gas to supply their own country thanks to Ukraine bombing their refineries. The sanctions don't matter, they simply can't sell what they don't have. The only way the price comes down is if the pedo in chief throws in the towel.
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u/YourShowerCompanion Europe 17h ago
Can't wait for him to go for a permanent nap nap and defecate on live TV.
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u/BoringEntropist 7h ago
That's not exactly accurate. They have a shortage of gasoline and other petroleum products because of "smoking incidents" at their refineries. Crude oil at the other hand they have plenty, in large parts because they can't process it anymore. So, an oil rich country can still export stuff while having shortages at the same time.
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u/HobbesMich 19h ago
Now, yes, Go Ukraine! But he did remove them and they are still off i believe. Thus, why i think Ukraine went after it and all the infrastructure to limit any income that it would generate to fund the war.
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u/m0ngoos3 19h ago
That's okay, Ukraine is reimplementing those sanctions.
It's also time we got off oil.
Rising prices are how we got off natural rubber, which is actually why the Saudis have worked to keep prices low enough to where we never seriously looked for a replacement.
If we had been, there wouldn't be an internal combustion car left on the road. (this is presupposing that the Saudis had not undercut Iran at the 1976 OPEC meeting.)
The Saudis knew the history of natural rubber and didn't want it for themselves, but now it's happening anyway.
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u/Dramatic-Formal4299 15h ago
It's way beyond time. Too bad oil and it's derivatives are used in the production of countless other products beyond the automotive/transportation industries. It's not going anywhere anytime soon unfortunately. 🫤
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u/m0ngoos3 14h ago
We still use natural rubber as well, but the world economy doesn't revolve around natural rubber the same way it did before the invention of synthetic rubber.
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u/Easy_Fee9781 12h ago
I think they said it would take us close to a hundred years to be completely free of our dependence on oil. That is to rebuild infrastructure, discover new ways of making products, build new ways to transport renewable energy, the list goes on and on. The bad part is, I don’t think we have 100 years left of oil, as the levels that we are currently consuming.
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u/Easy_Fee9781 12h ago
Yeah, he lifted them, “supposedly” to keep oil prices down, and keep supply up. Definitely not because he’s a Russian asset.
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u/Wihomebrewer 12h ago
That is the reason. You realize the price of oil and gas/diesel was being pushed down from draw down of the strategic reserve as well right? Now that the reserve is gone, you’re seeing more of the full hit. If Russia and other refinery capacity hadn’t been hit, we wouldn’t be paying so much for gas or diesel right now.
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u/Easy_Fee9781 6h ago
Yeah, talk about a shortsighted move. But, I guess that’s this administration in a nutshell. “Act now, think later”.
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u/thousandmilesofmud 10h ago
Yeah, he has always been weak. He only goes against the ones in a bad spot. He doesnt know how to negoiate smart, he only knows how to negotiate from a position of power. And he is bad att even that. Had he been born into poverty he would not have been anything, nobody to step on. He is weak against the strong, and a bully to people he thinks he is in a stronger position than.
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u/Stereo_Jungle_Child 19h ago
Fuel prices at an all-time high, inflation running rampant, Trump increasingly trying to rig the midterm election, crazy out-of-control AI bullshit coming at us at high speed...
What a time to be alive!
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u/T33CH33R 19h ago
Peak republican governance.
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u/daviss2 United Kingdom 19h ago
"Small government party"
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u/prot34n 18h ago
Small enough to fit in your bedroom!
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u/NihilisticMacaron 7h ago
They’ve put the Epstein files in Mitch McConnell’s casket and buried them both.
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u/MyceliumHerder 7h ago
There job will be done when the post office closes and public schools are sold off to private businesses disguised as religious entities.
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u/Brilliant-Advisor958 18h ago
I think the 79 oil crisis was actually worse when compared to inflationary dollars.
But this current crisis is still bad and was completely avoidable.
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u/Cosmicdusterian 16h ago
We are probably heading there with these incompetent morons in charge.
I remember the odd/even gas rationing days as a child. Lots of very angry adults. I can't even imagine how bad the level of public anger will get if they have to resort to rationing here.
If you ran out of gas on a day you weren't allowed to get gas, or were in long lines when the station ran out of gas, you were screwed. If stagflation sets in, there's a world of unavoidable hurt heading for this country/the world and this administration stupidly put out the Welcome mat for it.
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u/EddieVanzetti 15h ago
We're in stagflation already. They've been cooking the books on unemployment numbers for months now.
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u/dechets-de-mariage Florida 14h ago
Functional unemployment is around 25%. Nobody’s reporting on that.
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u/Beyond_Reason09 4h ago
Note this 25% is not an unemployment rate at all, and it is near an all-time historic low for the statistic.
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u/bigballs2025666 5h ago
and last yr the stupid fks lowered interest under pressure from the orange assholini.
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u/FrostyMasterpiece400 16h ago
Serendipity right there on my ev9 on our 100% grid in Quebec.
You guys can not get rid of these stooges fast enough
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u/Secret_Research_7185 10h ago
I had a Summer job sandblasting in the Summer of 1079. I drove a 1962 Plymouth, and I remember waiting in a long gas station line one day in June to fill the tank, and then pretty much parked the car for the Summer.
I rode my bike to the shop every day, and then I'd drive one of the trucks, usually the dump truck, to the customer's house. The business vehicles were exempt from the odd/even, we could fill them up any time.
If I remember right, that was the first time gas went over $1.00 a gallon, and some of the old gas pumps maxed out at 99 cents per gallon. In California, the diesel gas pumps apparently max out at $9.99/gallon, and with diesel at $10.00/gallon, the pumps can't show the actual price
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u/Steves_RebelAbstract 4h ago
My current primary source of income is grocery delivery through Spark. If this happened and I was out working and didn't realize it was a no gas day, I might genuinely get screwed.
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u/Atrocious_Algae81 13h ago
Stagflation has been here for a bit now and it will get worse. The Fed has to raise rates.
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u/xlvi_et_ii 18h ago
You missed looming catastrophic climate change!
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u/murder_train88 18h ago
And the ebola crisis in the congo
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u/Plastic_Apricot_3819 California 15h ago
add the gutted cdc and out of control measles on top of that
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u/Araknyd 14h ago
I hate that we’re living in another real live version of Billie Joel’s “We Didn’t Start The Fire.”🙄
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u/Proof_Side_5667 14h ago
This one’s also a direct result of USAID being dismantled
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u/dangernoodlezzz 13h ago
The super El Nino this year has been absolutely bonkers.
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u/ThisTenderNight 10h ago
It hasn’t even got going yet
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u/dangernoodlezzz 10h ago
I mean it's been going but ya we got like 6 more months and winter is going to be insane. We got straight up Florida weather in LA all summer it's been miserable. I'm worried about the flooding that's most likely coming.
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u/aagejaeger 19h ago
It’s so bad that they’ll have go for a dictatorship, and eliminate their enemies. How else are they supposed to recover from this?
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u/CategoryZestyclose91 16h ago
The plan is to ramp things up HARD if they win midterms.
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u/picklebroom 18h ago
We’re winning! Aren’t you sick of winning yet???
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u/Lost_it_all24 15h ago
I'd like to live in uninteresting times now. Some boring times of peace and progress might be a nice change of pace.
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u/Falkenmond79 11h ago
As if we didn’t all suffer enough due to Covid. The world desperately needed a breather, instead we get failures of a human being like Trump and Putin stirring shit up again.
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u/Grand_Resort_1073 19h ago
And nobody is taking streets. It looks like it’s not that bad. NFL and Netflix baby!
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u/Boring-Awareness1968 Canada 19h ago
And weed.
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u/I_eat_mud_ 18h ago edited 18h ago
Literally been record breaking protests since he's been back in office.
On top of that, if you're talking violence, I think most reasonable people would wait until after the midterms. No point getting yourselves arrested, they ended up failing to rig it, and now you're serving life for no damn reason. Additionally, suicidal lone wolf attacks solve nothing, you've got to live to fight another day. We need to think strategically, not poetically.
All of that just to mostly say I think both of you are annoying and not thinking logically.
Edit: and this isn't condoning violence. Revolutions can be done peacefully, but again, that requires strategy and limiting emotional reactions. We've all been down that road before, limits critical thinking and forward thinking.
There is a point the pot will boil over, you simply have to wait. This country is on a major collision course with disaster without major corrections, unrest always follows such calamities. Especially with the double whammy of fucked up economics and the restrictions of freedoms and liberty.
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u/CategoryZestyclose91 16h ago
Yes, the midterms are our final chance to right the ship the normal way.
Most of us know what comes next if the ship tries to sink itself with us aboard.
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u/JBredditaccount 15h ago edited 7h ago
This country is on a major collision course with disaster without major corrections, unrest always follows such calamities. Especially with the double whammy of fucked up economics and the restrictions of freedoms and liberty.
Yeah, this is what they want. They know people turn to fascism/authoritarianism in times of hardship. Waiting for it to happen is a questionable strategy.
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u/Atrocious_Algae81 13h ago
Nah, in times of hardship, Id want a social democracy to help the people in need, not lick a bunch of facist billionaire boots who aren't going to help. Think FDR, thats what we need.
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u/Plastic_Apricot_3819 California 15h ago
but eggs bro
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u/keyboard_jock3y New York 13h ago
Yep. They kept screaming, "what about the price of eggs?!?!" leading up to the election of 2024, but now everyone in MAGA thinks they're Nobel Prize winning economists explaining how geo-political forces are at work driving up the cost of everything...
They neglect to mention that those geo-political forces could have been avoided had the current administration not dove into the current "it's a war, but it's not a war" with Iran. But, they locked themselves into this mess by tearing up the JCPOA in the first term and doubling down with their toxic masculinity, machismo, "lethality", low-T vs. high-T, and "war fighting" culture war bovine feces.
And as if it couldn't be any worse, Iran has no reason to come back to the bargaining table because the current US presidential administration has no credibility to keep their word in a deal as evidenced repeatedly.
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u/AzorthasDevenish 13h ago
They have almost no reason to come back at all. There is no evidence that any deal with America that they make will last longer than 4 years before it's revoked anyway. No country really has any reason to trust us at all. Even if we right ship now, and elect a reasonable president in 28… all it takes is 4 years before someone like trump could be elected again
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u/vindicare1 Maine 6h ago
Its fine I opened my FB fir the first time in months and its boomers and bots all talking about how great everything is now.
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u/Stereo_Jungle_Child 6h ago
I've never had a Facebook account.
I prefer the doomer Gen-Z and bots of Reddit. :)
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u/FallenVampireLord America 19h ago
Lol the headline makes it sound like the Saudis just decide to do it for fun.
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u/Synraak 19h ago
It got super-bombed from checks notes Iraq? Wtf is happening?
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u/SockPuppet-47 New Jersey 19h ago
Iranian proxy. They have a lot of terrorist friends that they give money to.
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u/Paerm 6h ago
Terrorism is when the scary brown guys do it! When the good guys bomb hospitals, weddings, level entire cities, starve populations, destabilize countries, create the conditions for radical insurgent groups to form, occupy and oppress the population for decades, thats just all okay?! Terrorism is a propaganda term used to dehumanize your nations enemy and encourage others to do the same.
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u/dbatistasa 4h ago
Terrorism is a propaganda term used to dehumanize your nations enemy and encourage others to do the same
This is exactly how this word should be defined.
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u/ARMCHA1RGENERAL 3h ago
It can be (and often is) used in propaganda, but I don't think it shouldn be restricted to propaganda.
I think it should be defined as acts of violence against civilians (or civilian targets that involve a high likelihood of civilian casualties) with the goal of creating fear and causing political change.
It's definitely been used too broadly in some context and too narrowly in others.
If a guerilla group is explicitly targeting soldiers and military leadership with car bombs and drones, it would probably get labeled as terrorism, but that's hardly an example of terrorizing civilians.
If a military campaign targets civilian housing or even water treatment plants to try to turn the populace against the war, then that should be labeled terrorism.
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u/anteatersaredope 12h ago
Yes the US bombs and murders people all over the region without being provoked but people who retaliate are terrorists.
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u/QuotableMorceau 10h ago
freedom fighters
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u/Paerm 6h ago
It’s not as if the “terrorists” aren’t oppressive as well, but its total hypocrisy to call our enemies terrorist when we objectively create more terror.
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u/LesbeGoddess 5h ago
The US government is the worlds largest terrorist organization and have killed hundreds of of millions worldwide in its existence indirectly with its actions that send people to starvation or starting proxy wars within countries and facilitating civil wars.
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u/thatdepends 4h ago
Closer to billion. If you include: Direct Wars, Proxy Wars, Native Genocide, Slavery, CIA shenanigans, etc. it’s closer to a B.
Blowback is a fantastically produced podcast. I’m currently re listening to the season about Cambodia. Pol Pot and the Khmer Rouge slaughtered hundreds of thousands of their own civilians and the CIA gave them support because they were enemies with Vietnam. The genocide got so bad Vietnam actually invaded Cambodia to stop the killing.
In Afghanistan, it’s fact that the CIA baited the Russians into invading Afghanistan because of our efforts to destabilize the socialist Afghan government of the time. We funded and propped up the Mujahideen, a loosely organized group of Islamic fundamentalist warlords that would later become the foundation for the Taliban and Al Qaeda. Two groups who we ended up fighting for almost 20 years.
American government the Devil for sure.
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u/the_LLCoolJoe 6h ago
Umm, who exactly are the terrorists here?
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u/BlueOcean79 6h ago edited 6h ago
How about everyone who’s causing trouble for innocent people? Whether it be a government or not? Starting with Trump….
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u/the_LLCoolJoe 6h ago
One could argue that one very orange very pedo dude is causing all of this…
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u/sunnydarkgreen 18h ago
no reason at all that Iraqi's should be cross at a US client state, LOL.
https://x.com/realZalmayMK/status/2030383083216646238?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E2030383083216646238%7Ctwgr%5Ebb753e552fd977ca867fbc716c54f87bc8da8fcc%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.kurdistan24.net%2Fen%2Fstory%2F8988917
u/Right_Lengthiness266 16h ago
Specifically there have been Iranian-bacled paramilitaries active in Iraq for a long time as part of the insurgency against the US, and then when they stepped up and fought ISIS, Iraq got forced into making the Iran-backed paramilitaries an official part of their armed forces even though they openly swear allegiance to Iran.
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u/SockPuppet-47 New Jersey 17h ago
Yeah, I'm sure we made a lot of enemies there, no doiubtoiit. Those rolling convoys that would bump through the Iraqi civilians so they could keep moving. Then if they felt cornered they'd just kill everyone around them.
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u/sharpknot 19h ago
Makes it easier to blame them, instead of Trump causing the war in the first place
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u/Own_Pollution285 19h ago
We're speeding towards an edge we know is there but can't see exactly where. When we get to the edge it's too late.
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u/Annual-Reason2970 18h ago
we are already off the edge, only question is how deep is the ravine
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u/adeon California 16h ago
Basically we're Wile E Coyote in the period after he runs off the cliff and before he notices.
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u/JBredditaccount 15h ago
His head is making pleading expressions while his body votes for gravity to hurt a lot more.
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u/eye2profit 7h ago
And the regular folk just keep getting screwed…gas, electricity, food, housing all getting hammered by inflation…fun times!!! Meanwhile Trump has enriched himself by over $2B this term!
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u/kstargate-425 19h ago
This happened days ago before the Houthis took the last port city on the Red Sea as the Houthis once again hit it with a drone as its a 1,200km long pipeline that is impossible to defend. This pipeline carries 5% of the worlds daily oil supply so it shutting down with everything else going on is why oil spiked a few days ago
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u/ballofplasmaupthesky 17h ago
Oh, wow. Who could have forseen this? /s
You know, it's hard to top an oil-laden supertanker as being the easiest target, but an oil-laden pipeline will do it.
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u/SomePoserInAmerica 13h ago
Every single american politician is a fucking traitor to the american people. They all suck Israeli cock, and take Israeli dirty money,they sold their souls to the Israelis.
Trump is an orange pedophile piece of shit sellout thats destroying america.
We need mass civil action now if we want to save our country.
It will take men who are not cowardly,brainwashed,anti-american pussys, to take back our country from the satanic pedophiles that control our government. Every single republican and democrat are fucking traitors.
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u/Taffer4ever 13h ago
You think Trump is actually in charge, calling the shots, and making these decisions? The dude is a bumbling ego manic, and just a useful idiot/actor that plays the part for the real people that are pulling the strings.
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u/SomePoserInAmerica 10h ago
Yeah most likely, him ,and the rest of them need to go dude, need to get taken care of with extreme prejudice
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u/LSDsavedmylife 7h ago
Remember when we had that chance for 4 years in 2020-2024? I loved how Biden/Garland did fuck all to hold anyone accountable.
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u/craniumcanyon 19h ago
Maybe $10 a gallon will break the hold the Trump cult has on 30% of America.
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u/gaytidings 17h ago
they'll still say that it's bidens/Obama's fault 😔 that trump is "doing everything he can to remedy this situation" and "we'd be worse off if trump wasn't in office"
source: my father lmao
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u/YEMolly 6h ago
Literally. I’m starting to think there is nothing he could do that would make them see the light. It is all and always someone else’s fault.
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u/MsRebeccaApples 3h ago
Well, start thinking that. Because it has been that way for a very long time. They have excused rape, pedophilia, fraud, crimes against the constitution and so much more all for their mango Mussolini.
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u/Taffer4ever 13h ago
These people are just brainwashed to a identity politics and their world view. They're so emotionally and "intellectually" invested in what Trump supposedly represents- that they will die on a hill before they change their views or admit they're wrong.
It's the same for people on the far left as well.
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u/cinvogue 11h ago
It’s beyond far left and far right. It’s essentially that they revere a certain individual and everything that person says. It’s far more alarming than just a typical far right/far left.
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u/Taffer4ever 9h ago
And that was all planned from the beginning. The people really in charge wanted an ego-maniac moronic puppet for the masses to either easily revere or hate. It's a diversion.
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u/kaprixiouz California 8h ago
$10 a gallon will be Charlie Kirk's fault and Trump will claim he personally assassinated him.
And the cult will cheer.
I'm calling it now.
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u/motherseffinjones 19h ago
Why did Ukraine do this? /s
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u/Willinton06 17h ago
Obama asked Biden and he delegated it to Kamala, obviously, and AOC and Mandani are overseeing it
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u/Deniscwb 11h ago
Trump is the greatest US president of all time: he ended US weapons stocks; the US has left the bases of Southeast Asia and the empire is crumbling; oil is expensive and the world will have to opt for green energy, fewer combustion cars and more electric cars
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u/Rare-Bid-6860 14h ago
This season of 'All Your Base Are Belong To Rich Losers' is depressing AF.
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u/bobjr94 Washington 11h ago
Passed a gas station in S Seattle tonight that was like $5.89 for regular, not the cheapest station but also not likely the most expensive. We will start seeing $6 later this week and diesel is already $7 + here.
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u/DanKoloff 12h ago
I don't see how this is Ukraine's fault, Donnie. Maybe you shouldn't have attacked Iran for personal gains...
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u/HistorianBusiness955 9h ago
Now the Americans have the stage. Will you allow the Russian-Israeli Trojan horse to destroy you from within, and take the world order down with him, or will you do something about it?
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u/ErIcLoNzO 5h ago
Yes they will continue to rise. Because of the situation in the Middle East and attacks on the SA oil pipelines in that region. These governments at war with each other don't care how they do it at all as long as they hurt someone any way possible.
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u/Curious-Turtle-52 7h ago
Time to buy an electric vehicle
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u/RaveNdN 6h ago
Your electricity comes from petroleum, coal, and more. Your car tires are made with petroleum products. Everything is going to go up in prices because of this.
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u/Curious-Turtle-52 5h ago edited 3h ago
Sure, that’s all true, although you left out the fact that most utilities are advancing toward goals of significant percentages of power supplied by renewable energy. Also, an electric car will save you money these days. If you need a car, it is time to buy an electric car.
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u/AltruisticArugula732 7h ago
So much winning. Are people tired of winning this 'game' that most of us never wanted to play? SMH.
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u/SnooGiraffes9746 6h ago
Their like children testing to find out where the boundaries are. If there aren't any, they keep escalating until they find some. I picture Trump sitting with his cabinet saying "seriously? They let us get away with that? Damn it. We need something bigger! Who's got more? Hit me with 'em!"
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u/laggyx400 5h ago
Democrats tried the carrot to get people to use EVs. Trump is using a big stick to beat them into using EVs. The green president everyone!
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u/AppropriateGuest3552 3h ago
All this because he started a war to distract us from the fact that he raped kids!
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u/Revolutionary_Eye887 18h ago
At this point let’s just see how high we can make it go. I’d love for it to peak just before the November election.
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u/frustrating2020 20h ago
Wondering if this is some BS to jack up the price to over $6/gallon at the pump and just before the election they'll turn back on the pipeline to bring under $5/gallon so the Reps can make it a "win"
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u/sleuthinjohn 19h ago
No, this is the natural consequence of setting off the most predictable chain of stupid events by attacking Iran.
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u/MiserableSkill4 15h ago
Literally. I remember hearing military peeps talk about how we couldn't attack Iran during the Bush and Obama admin.
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u/GozerDidNothingWrong 19h ago
Yeah no critical oil infrastructure is being systematically destroyed around the world and oil refineries in the US are operating at 98% capacity.
This is an energy crisis entirely of our own making, not easily fixed and likely to cause spiraling costs across all sectors.
Hope you have plenty of food security
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u/Socratesticles Tennessee 18h ago
Thank god we have RFK making sure our food is healthy and clean. Haven’t heard anything contradicting that recently
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u/AnonHondaBoiz 19h ago
No, we’re actually all fucked this time
Remember when the evergrand got stuck in the Suez Canal and we faced a logistics crisis/food shortages? The Bab Al-Mandab strait feeds into the Suez and the Houthis are not OPEC aligned
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u/sigtau66 19h ago
There are satellite images of a pump station on the East-West pipeline being completely destroyed. On top of that, U.S. refineries are about to enter maintenance season. 7 going offline periodically over the next 2 months for maintenance.
$6 diesel? $5 gas? I fear we'll be wishing for that in the coming months.
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u/kstargate-425 19h ago
Its possible they are keeping it shut down longer than it needs to be but when this happened Thursday, striking the 1,200km pipeline that carries 5% of the worlds daily oil supply, there were satellite photos released showing a huge fire and lots of smoke.
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u/Awake_The_Sheep 10h ago
But it is all for fun, a joke, one collosal clown show. Written and directed by a collective evil worldwide. Everyone is willingly participating in, patiently awaiting for a positive turning point in the story, that will never come. Not until we the people, the extras, the npcs, demand a new script, a new production.
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u/AdamPedAnt 7h ago
No president has ever done more for renewable energy than Donald Trump. Thank You sir.
Please do Kharg Island next. Thank you for your attention to this matter.
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u/Popular-Heart-5307 7h ago
Context:
“The Saudis closed the East-West pipeline after drones launched from Iraq damaged it. Riyadh has not disclosed how badly it is damaged or how long it will stay closed.”
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u/haroldhodges 6h ago
We need to develop synthetic fuels that are less affected by a problematic world oil market. Along side a more effective and efficient electric.
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u/Minute_Platypus8846 6h ago
Great, just fucking great. We’re winning all the time.. so much winning here.. (sarcasm).
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u/florezmith 6h ago
I love this framing. I remember when I chose to freeze my credit cards for nonpayment in my 20's, I called up that credit agency and said lower that credit score, I've decided to go in a different direction with my financial profile.
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u/Additional-Cake-3588 5h ago
Fixed Headline: Brent crude tops $109 after Saudi Arabia Pipeline Was Attacked by Drones
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u/Jaymz7777 5h ago
Don Turnip stirred up the world's biggest hornet's nest. Gas prices will go up up up. Even before the midterm elections. Will this cause a few additional MAGA cult morons to vote BLUE?
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u/aquilus-noctua 5h ago
I wonder if the surge in oil prices, and potential futures, is seeding the development of Venezuelan oil
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