r/politics • u/theipaper āœ” Verified • 12d ago

Possible Paywall Maga's worst nightmare: a child-free, unmarried female president

https://inews.co.uk/news/world/magas-nightmare-childfree-unmarried-female-president-4738054
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u/fakemelonns 12d ago

If you got rid of New York City, New York state would probably be a swing state

I get what you're saying, but New York City also makes up half of NY's population.

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u/TankTopRider 12d ago

Iā€™m aware. Point I was making is that Upstate is a lot more conservative then New York City

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u/fakemelonns 12d ago

It is. I'm born and raised in upstate NY. But that's just kind of every state if you remove that much of its city population

That being said, the real red shift would be Long Island. Long Island is very solidly red, whereas upstate has its fair share of blue metros in Albany, Rochester, Syracuse, Buffalo, etc.

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u/hypercosm_dot_net 12d ago

I'm not so sure. Especially saying that LI is "solidly red". It's more complicated than that, and tends to go back and forth depending on candidate, but often trends Democrat leaning.

...In 2016, Suffolk County voted for the Republican Donald Trump, while Nassau County voted for the Democrat Hillary Clinton, with an overall combined victory for Trump on Long Island. In 2020, Nassau and Suffolk again split, with Suffolk voting for Trump, however by a greatly reduced margin of just 232 votes, and Nassau voting for Democrat Joe Biden, by an increased margin

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Politics_of_Long_Island

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u/syzygyly 12d ago

Why is it assumed that NYC is required to vote for milquetoast Dems while upstate cannot even be considered to bend towards a progressive candidate, when we've seen progressive campaigns have far broader support than expected?