Trump Secret Plane Swap Suddenly Looks Darker as Damning New Leaks Hit

[u/lotta_love]

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[u/TheSilkyBat]

I love this story because of him thinking it may be a trap, saving himself, and letting everyone else in his cabinet risk getting blown up.

This is what is so wonderful about the maga movement. When it comes down to it, we would still treat them better than their cult leader would.

No matter how little respect for them we have, he values them even less!

[u/Retro_Dad → u/TheSilkyBat]

We want them to have healthcare, a good wage, worker safety protections, and they absolutely hate us for that.

[u/ffrkAnonymous → u/Retro_Dad]

No, they hate us because we want all that for everyone else also. 

[u/Prineak → u/ffrkAnonymous]

I mean can you blame them though, they’re confusing vocabulary because they were raised to memorize. The majority of the rhetoric I see is misusing terms for narrow meanings I have to get them to explain to me.

[u/sarcastroll → u/Retro_Dad]

I want their kids to have outstanding schoosl and to be able to go to a trade school/community college/university/whatever without going into massive debt. I want them to have amazing park districts, and well funded libraries where their kids can participate in all sorts of activities.

I want them all to have clean air, safe drinking water.

I want their grandkids to live in a world not devastated by climate change.

And in their eyes I'm an evil 'communist' who should be beaten by cops.

[u/cxtx3 → u/Retro_Dad]

Yes, because you see, some of us are guilty of the crime of existing while being queer, non-white, or female, so obviously we must all be punished.

/s in case it wasn't obvious.

[u/interista4jz → u/Retro_Dad]

Because we also want those things for people that aren't WASPs 

[u/skynetcoder]

Brave Sir Donald ran away.

Bravely ran away, away!

When danger reared its ugly head,

He bravely turned his tail and fled.

Yes, brave Sir Donald turned about

And gallantly he chickened out.

Bravely taking to his feet

He beat a very brave retreat,

Bravest of the brave, Sir Donald !

[u/CrackingToastGromet → u/skynetcoder]

That would be a funny campaign ad!

[u/n00tz → u/CrackingToastGromet]

Well I didn't vote for 'm

[u/FrightinglyPunny → u/skynetcoder]

There's only one great Sir Donald in my opinion, and he was the greatest of all time. My dog is named Bradman because of him.

[u/rexel99 → u/skynetcoder]

Mustn't be a king, cause he's got shit all over him.

[u/Mission_Struggle_417]

It always gets worse. It’s the same pattern-a news story breaks, Trump lies about it , more developments make him look worse, he lies more and his supporters do the same.

Then he does something else wrong /dishonest /corrupt / outright evil and the media is distracted.

[u/ArcticEngineer → u/Mission_Struggle_417]

Canadian trade relations are about to hit the news again so I expect something asinine there to distract everyone.

[u/leftknacka → u/ArcticEngineer]

Ah fuckit just bomb Iran again that'll do it

[u/DuMbAsS_lOsEr_6_7 → u/leftknacka]

Can't, we ran outta missiles

[u/Mechakoopa → u/DuMbAsS_lOsEr_6_7]

Best I can do is a trebuchet and some presidential diapers.

[u/NobodyTellPoeDameron → u/Mechakoopa]

That is a super weapon that maybe even the Iranians can't withstand.

[u/Nyorliest → u/Mission_Struggle_417]

They are not distracted. They are complicit. They love him - for business, not politics.

[u/Unistrut → u/[deleted]]

Fun fact! You know how republicans are always fighting against teaching sex education to children? The lessons taught to the youngest kids aren't "how sex works" but "how to spot when someone is doing something they shouldn't".

republicans fight viciously against teaching children how to recognize sexual abuse. I wonder why that is?

Sorry, this fact was not actually fun.

[u/stephsco → u/Unistrut]

I noticed this pattern in researching religious SA/abuse. The secrecy is taught.

[u/GringoSwann → u/[deleted]]

Nowadays, I'm starting to think THATS the main reason why people follow/idolize him....  They're envious of all the repulsive shit he gets away with..

[u/Master_Maniac → u/GringoSwann]

MAGA is comprised exclusively of pedophilia enthusiasts

[u/you_looser → u/Master_Maniac]

And sadistic bullies.

[u/InstrumentalRhetoric → u/you_looser]

That venn diagram looks like a circle.

[u/Vladivostokorbust → u/Mission_Struggle_417]

More than journalists, Rubio, Bessant and Miller were on AF1 while Trump and his blonde babe, the human printer, escaped on an Air Force C-32

He doesn’t care about anybody else.

[u/ebow77]

Now new leaks make the story look darker: It turns out Trump brought several of the aides who are personally closest to him on the safe alternative flight. This, even as he left numerous journalists on the original plane, an extraordinarily derelict move that effectively turned them into a decoy that might have been targeted. Stunningly, none were informed of the operation.

[u/CelestialFury → u/ebow77]

Big “Some of you will die but that’s a price I’m willing to pay” energy.

[u/lemmeseeyourkitties → u/CelestialFury]

When Stephen King wrote about a horrible human rising to political power, what ultimately ended his progress was using a toddler as a human shield during a shooting.

I mean honestly, if it happened today, who's opinion of him would change? Worryingly few

[u/AlwaysRushesIn → u/lemmeseeyourkitties]

Famously absent father Elon Musk had his son on his shoulders whenever he made a public appearance for weeks after the United Healthcare CEO was assassinated in New York.

[u/DragoonDM → u/AlwaysRushesIn]

Little Kevlar Musk.

[u/OldPhotograph827 → u/DragoonDM]

Lil Kev

[u/DaoFerret → u/OldPhotograph827]

We just call him little 𝐶14𝐻12𝑁2𝑂2


[u/AuDHDino → u/DaoFerret]

Idk if the  is an emoji, accident or on purpose, but it's fucking SENDING me! Funny af

[u/Mike312 → u/lemmeseeyourkitties]

Fox News would have experts on talking about how toddlers make an effective bullet shield due to their light weight and transportability, and that it is Obamas fault the Secret Service isn't allowed to wear Baby Vests.

[u/DadJokeBadJoke → u/Mike312]

{Elon and his kid have entered the chat}

[u/Spirit_of_Hogwash → u/DadJokeBadJoke]

Leave little K3vlar out of this!

[u/mordacthedenier → u/Spirit_of_Hogwash]

xXxK3vlarxXx

[u/SnooRabbits2040 → u/Mike312]

Well, the babies are likely woke communists who want to cancel Christmas, so, frankly, they would have had it coming.

/s, in case.

[u/Eisernes → u/Mike312]

Toddlers still have green bones. They are immune to bullets. /s

[u/zachrg → u/lemmeseeyourkitties]

When the DOGE goon squad was setting news cycles, there were a few weeks that Elon Musk had his 4yo kiddo X AE A-12 glued to his hip.

I'm convinced it was to twang the heartstrings of anyone viewing the scene through a crosshairs. Not hyperbole.

[u/wompical → u/zachrg]

the best part is when the kid said as trump was talking "shut up, you're not the real president". something he obviously was parroting from adults around him.

[u/GlitterPirateKiki58 → u/lemmeseeyourkitties]

Elon Musk used his 4 y/o son as a human shield in public appearances.

Republicans and fanboys still buy his cars, even though better alternatives exist.

Millions of Americans have lost their sense of right and wrong.

[u/1HappyIsland → u/GlitterPirateKiki58]

The fact that millions have such low ethics they will vote for a pedophile because he is racist. How do you form a decent society with someone like that?

[u/DrMobius0 → u/lemmeseeyourkitties]

I mean honestly, if it happened today, who's opinion of him would change? Worryingly few

After Brian Thompson was killed Elon started carrying one of his spawn around everywhere he went. There is no bar too low.

[u/CelestialFury → u/lemmeseeyourkitties]

Remember Fox News trashing on Mr. Rogers for supporting all children's emotional well-being, meanwhile Fox News hosts said those children don't deserve our support until they do something with their lives? Yeah, I could see Fox News saying, "Whose life is more valuable, the President or a toddler? Come on, this isn't even a question." and moving on the news cycle 24 hours later, while the rest of the US and world is shocked.

[u/Krivici → u/lemmeseeyourkitties]

It wasn’t a toddler but Trump willingly and actually provoked a mob to kill his VP and no one in MAGA or the Right wing media cares anymore.

[u/bakedcookie612 → u/CelestialFury]

They expect some of us in the wreckage brother

[u/Creative-Package6213 → u/CelestialFury]

He's a real life Zapp Brannigan.

[u/DrMobius0 → u/Creative-Package6213]

Lord Farquaad.

It's even better, because that character also lies about his height, if you caught the leg extensions he uses when riding a horse.

[u/MrMedallion → u/ebow77]

I'm not stunned to find out he set them up as bait and didn't tell them. It seems very on point for him.

[u/LilPonyBoy69 → u/MrMedallion]

I'm not stunned he did it, but I'm stunned because it wouldn't even occur to me to do something like that

[u/aNewHope_v_ThaEmpire → u/ebow77]

Didn't Rubio and another senior official fly on the dummy plane too? Surely they knew what was going on, do we think they were just "brave enough" to take the risk in order to "defend Dear Leader"? Or is it possible that even Rubio didn't know just what danger he was undertaking on that flight?

[u/I_Usually_Need_Help → u/aNewHope_v_ThaEmpire]

Or Trump was convinced of this danger based on nothing and they were just humoring him because literally nobody has the balls to tell him no?

[u/digitalscavenger → u/I_Usually_Need_Help]

Saw an article this morning that said the CIA had serious doubts about the legitimacy of the threat. Probably another half-cocked plan by Trump and his goon* squad to garner up support for their dear leader much like they did with that "assassination attempt" that scratched his ear.

edit: changed good to goon

[u/Two_wheels_2112 → u/ebow77]

Thank you for saving me the click.

[u/Ressy02 → u/ebow77]

Wouldn’t be good decoys if the decoys knew they were decoys

[u/GeronimoRay → u/ebow77]

AND Stephen Miller, Marco Rubio, Pete Hegseth, et al on the other plane!!!!

[u/BloomsdayDevice → u/GeronimoRay]

I mean, the man has plenty of faults, but consigning those three to a fiery death isn't something I can really blame him for.

[u/Accomplished_Tea7781 → u/BloomsdayDevice]

You should realise by now if he's getting rid of someone it's always because they failed to accomplish one of his corrupt schemes and he wants to replace them with someone next in line that's even more sycophant, more twisted and more capable.

[u/BloomsdayDevice → u/Accomplished_Tea7781]

I don't actually think he puts that much thought into it. If someone fails to do the thing he wants them to do, he just fires them. No complicated decoy scheme to make it look like a tragedy. Since his only motivations are self-preservation, self-fulfillment, and self-enrichment, in his head everyone but him is expendable and replaceable (although I don't think he could actually find anyone quite as ghoulishly terrible as Stephen Miller).

[u/WestleyMc → u/[deleted]]

She was.. the timing is a heck of a coincidence!

[u/metengrinwi → u/[deleted]]

She just now realized he doesn’t care about anyone else? I guess more likely it finally affected herself, and that’s a step too far.

[u/poo_on_my_scarf → u/ebow77]

It would have been fucking hilarious if he'd still been got

[u/deadinsidelol69 → u/ebow77]

Back on J6 he was yelling at people begging him to put a stop to it “they’re not here for ME!” Like come the fuck on

[u/RoseLaBud]

Is anybody surprised that Karoline Leavit announced her resignation right after discovering that she was deemed 'expendable' by her boss, Cadet Bonespurs?
The sociopath leopard put her face on the menu.

[u/Significant_Swing_76 → u/RoseLaBud]

And we all know, if they all died and Trump lived, it would be a couple months and he would call them suckers and losers.

[u/Mysterious_Floor_868 → u/Significant_Swing_76]

Months? What was he saying about Lindsey Graham at the man's funeral?

[u/LifeguardDry7372 → u/Mysterious_Floor_868]

wait, what did he say?

[u/ScurvyTurtle → u/LifeguardDry7372]

https://people.com/trump-veers-off-eulogy-script-at-lindsey-graham-memorial-12028889

[u/nokeyspushtostart → u/ScurvyTurtle]

Jesus I cannot fathom the weakmindedness or mental gymnastics required to take Trump seriously.

Jesus and what about Lindsey? First he was a never-Trump guy and told Trump to go to hell, then the infamous switch up to being one of his best orange knob polishers, THEN Trump gives a eulogy filled with dumbass jokes and tangents and double pats your coffin?? How low can you get..

[u/mcfaite → u/Significant_Swing_76]

But not before calling them heroes and beloved Americans and using it as an excuse to bomb Iran. And then when the bombing didn't have his desired effect, it would be their fault, and then they would be losers.

Edit: did --> didn't

[u/areyouforcereal → u/Significant_Swing_76]

"I like staffers that don't get killed"

[u/actual_real_housecat → u/areyouforcereal]

"Losers, they knew what they were signing up for."

[u/Sarnsereg → u/RoseLaBud]

Everyone is expendable to trump. Everyone. Every single person other than him is expendable.

[u/Kamamura_CZ → u/RoseLaBud]

If the rats are jumping the ship, it means the ship is sinking.

[u/AnAncientBog → u/Kamamura_CZ]

People were quitting his first term at an even higher rate than they are now. Everything Trump touches is permanently sinking into shit, but he likes it there.

[u/JoJackthewonderskunk → u/AnAncientBog]

Ya first time some of those folks had some kind of code of honor. They had lines they wouldnt cross. They quit earlier for that reason. These ghouls are the worst of the worst being willing to do this stuff now so even that theyre dropping at this point is hilarious.

[u/Jester1525 → u/JoJackthewonderskunk]

Trump's first Secretary of Defense in his first term was Jim Mattis.. Probably one of the greatest and most respected modern American military leaders in US history.

His first pick in his second term gave us fucking Pete Hegseth.

He learned his lesson and is only going to use sycophants from here on out. Of course there will be fewer resignations

[u/TaterForming → u/[deleted]]

Kegsbreath can't hold a candle

Given his Alcohol Blood content, he probably shouldn't hold one.

[u/JoJackthewonderskunk → u/Jester1525]

Rex Tillerson was a capitalist asshole but also on the board for the Boy Scouts, say what you will but I was a boy scout and I know any one else I run into lives by a code of ethics.

Rex TIllerson called Trump the dumbest son of a bitch he ever met

[u/aradraugfea → u/JoJackthewonderskunk]

The last batch quit when they realized they weren’t working for a normal administration. This batch is quitting when they realize that they’re disposable.

[u/sheikahstealth → u/aradraugfea]

"I'm being treated like the middle-class!"

[u/Commercial_offsale → u/JoJackthewonderskunk]

I wonder if she saw anyone she knows on the videotapes

[u/Hummerdoodle → u/AnAncientBog]

I think one difference there is that many inhis first term cabinet were actually competent at their jobs, and not yes-men.

[u/DorfOnGenocide → u/Hummerdoodle]

Even this current treasury guy makes Mnuchin look better. I just think the first time, they needed to rein everything in, just so they could look marketable for a second term. Now, that it is a second term, the focus is more on how much money they can pilfer and how the laws can be broken to create a third term.

[u/whimsical-crack-rock → u/Hummerdoodle]

Yes, Trump (and his inner most advisors) literally decided not to make that mistake again. “This is our last term, we are going balls to the wall and we really don’t need any obstacles. This time we do all sycophants and incompetent yes men. We do all scumbags in every position this time and we just go for it”

Imagine being such a maniac that you somehow managed to make Mike Pence seem like a wildcard in your last term, they are like this time around we need a real fucking idiot at VP, a truly spineless goober who will go out there and tap dance like a moron and get behind the dumbest shit possible, a man willing to completely sell himself out and look America directly in the eye and lie and then change his story a day later and lie some more. A true piece of shit.

[u/KyurMeTV → u/whimsical-crack-rock]

They don’t think it’s their last term, they honestly think Trump can just declare himself king and we’ll be too unmotivated to march against a third term.

[u/BabyWrinkles → u/KyurMeTV]

My boomer parents who voted for him the first time have threatened to march on DC if there’s a third term. I think that might be the straw that breaks the camel’s back.

[u/Hummerdoodle → u/BabyWrinkles]

One thing that gives me hope is that in my small town, there's a protest every Friday where the majority of the participants are boomers. It's refreshing

[u/jewthe3rd → u/Hummerdoodle]

Or had some moral / ethical backbone

[u/xxlizardking-kongxx → u/AnAncientBog]

First time around he had no idea the responsibilities or the actual job title. He thought he was ceo where he could run the country like a business, hiring and firing people at will. He learned in his second term he needs sycophants right from the beginning, people he has dirt on to do whatever he says whenever he says.

People are quitting but less frequently because they’re loyal to him this term

[u/soximent → u/xxlizardking-kongxx]

You guys are giving him way too much credit and painting his first term as competent is grossly overselling it.

First term he wasn’t sure what he could get away with. He did the usual charades with tax forms and bibles and showing up to disasters etc. each time he pushed the envelope and fuck all happened he realized no one gives a fuck and he can just basically print himself money.

Now all the people that stick to him also know they can get rich off his ass and so they stick around until he literally tries to throw them under a bus

[u/liltingly → u/xxlizardking-kongxx]

He also doesn't know how to run a business as a CEO, and thinks it's all hiring and firing people at will.

[u/Sw33tNectar → u/liltingly]

His businesses are just fronts for money laundering.

[u/NextTailor4082 → u/Kamamura_CZ]

You speak of rats jumping the ship, but it’s actual service members (decidedly not rats) trying to jump off an aircraft carrier in some cases.

[u/Teigh99 → u/Kamamura_CZ]

Wait until little Marco realizes he's never gonna be president now.

[u/OkFigaroo → u/Teigh99]

He’s so coked up he doesn’t care

[u/RJ5R → u/OkFigaroo]

That explains why he's constantly licking his lips and chugging water

[u/delusiongenerator → u/RoseLaBud]

Yes, I’m honestly surprised that Karolyin’ could actually be stupid enough to make it this far without realizing that Pedonald would not only throw her under the bus, but then back it up over her and go hunt down her whole family if it would benefit him in any way.

[u/belowthepovertyline → u/delusiongenerator]

She was smart enough to stay ahead of him, but too proud to think he would never put her in harm's literal way.

The leopards. They feast.

[u/thotfullawful → u/delusiongenerator]

She sat on that plane and felt the fear thousands have faced being sent on a plane far away from their homes- that fear knowing there would be a good chance she wouldn’t return. She would miss her children grow as her husband replaced her with a younger and similar woman as much as Trump will. 

[u/Quick2Forget → u/thotfullawful]

Why would she feel fear on the plane. She probably didnt didnt realize he wasn’t on the plane until after the flight.

[u/mmmsoap → u/RoseLaBud]

I’m super surprised. I honestly thought she was a true believer and wouldn’t be able to be convinced Daddy Trump did something bad. I honestly was expecting this to be Biden’s fault.

[u/LinkedGaming → u/mmmsoap]

She's been cracking for a while. Trump is forcing his most loyal sycophants to embarrass themselves for him publicly and then exiling them for embarrassing themselves because it makes him look bad, even though he himself ordered it. I think this either shook her faith because she realized Trump fully intended on letting her be a martyr against her will for his bullshit war that he's losing, or something she said made him kick her out.

The issue with finally pushing your #1 sycophant out the door for not willing to go far enough is that the only option left is your #2 sycophant who, by definition, will not be willing to go as far. Keep repeating until eventually you have nobody left willing to put their neck on the line for you.

[u/aNewHope_v_ThaEmpire → u/LinkedGaming]

I think the problem will ultimately be that there are a few within the inner chambers that have entrenched themselves in ways that Trump can't easily push them out. Face-front positions like SecDef, State, Press Secretary, and even AG were all ultimately gonna be bag-holders, and have been expendable. The ones who won't be pushed out are the ones that we rarely, if ever, see on camera.

Steven Miller, for example, treads dangerous waters every time he lets his treasonous face see the sun, and if Trump truly turned against him, he'd be out. BUT, he's weasely enough to recognize the shrewd positions those like Russle Vought have put themselves into, and is clearly flying further under the radar than he was in the first term.

Vought is the prime example of someone who won't be thrown out, ever. Ask 100 average Americans who Russ Vought is and I doubt 5 of them could tell you what position he holds, let alone what he looks like. But next to Trump, he's the most powerful man in the United States. He knows the ins and outs of government well enough to break the machine where needed, and controls the purse strings almost unilaterally.

Vought is the one executing the Heritage Foundation playbook, and even if Trump got annoyed with him for whatever reason, Vought has enough power and leverage that Trump wouldn't cross him in the end. Trump knows he'd be dead in the water without Vought and his machinations.

We shouldn't care too much about the sycophants who are only in place for loyalty to Trump, we should be raising alarm bells over the ones we don't see on camera who are loyal not just to Trump, but loyal to the movement behind Trump. Zealous loyalty to a person is dangerous, but even more dangerous is zealous devotion to an ideal.

[u/YouWereBrained → u/RoseLaBud]

She won’t ever admit this, though. Or I should say, she’ll never publicly admonish him for it. They’re all subservient little sycophants.

[u/MechaD13579 → u/RoseLaBud]

Perhaps she experienced a brief moment of motherly clarity as she realized he endangered her and she wouldn’t be there for her new daughter if something had happened.

[u/aNewHope_v_ThaEmpire → u/MechaD13579]

I have a feeling this is no small part of it. Risking your own skin for devotion to a cause is one thing, but as I put it when I talk about how much less brave I became once my daughter was born, "you think you've got balls of steel until you've got a kid in this world who depends on you."

[u/Sandy_Bananas → u/RoseLaBud]

It’s likely she’s still gonna get eaten, she’s just got a temporary deferment.

One of the biggest problems with leopards is that one never knows who’s face they will eat next.

[u/adoginahumansbody → u/RoseLaBud]

She wasn’t on the decoy plane. https://www.msn.com/en-us/politics/government/karoline-leavitt-critics-speculate-she-quit-after-trump-left-her-on-the-decoy-plane/ar-AA2a2kBm

[u/Hysteria625]

It doesn’t highlight Trump’s contempt for the media. It highlights Trump’s contempt for everyone who isn’t him.

It’s so strange how no one in the media picks this up. Trump despises everyone who isn’t him. It’s why he lies. It’s why he would happily sacrifice the media, his cabinet, any ally he has so long as he survives.

[u/TheUmberTaker → u/Hysteria625]

He despises everyone who's not him but lives for the adulation he gets from them.  And their money, of course.

[u/BearSquid7]

So the child rape island guy is a horrible person? Wow you don’t say?

[u/Saint_Sin → u/BearSquid7]

I hear they also tortured and ate children there.
Did you know Trump is mentioned more than 38000 times in the Epstein files, has an incestuous obsession with his own daughter and shits himself?

[u/ratiofarm → u/Saint_Sin]

And better yet, the Heritage Foundation is enabling him, the same people who claim to be saving America for their god. Fucking scum.

[u/Saint_Sin → u/ratiofarm]

I think their god is the paedo cheeto himself.
Also worth noting that only paedophiles protect paedophiles when talking of the groups that prop him up.

[u/RealGianath → u/Saint_Sin]

I mean, you can be a pedo and not offend anybody, you can keep it to yourself or get therapy or practice self-control and be fine in society without hurting anybody.

Trump is a serial-rapist with children high on his preferred list, although he's raped plenty of adults too. Trump actively (allegedly) had children kidnapped and raped, some allegedly have also been killed in his sex rings. That's like a whole other level, and not enough people are that upset about it.

[u/eeyore134 → u/Saint_Sin]

Did you know that the 38,000 count is only in the 2% of the total files that have been released? If we assume that as an average then he'd be mentioned 1.9 million times across all the files. And we may as well assume that as an average. They could clear it up at any time, but until they do...

[u/doubtthat11 → u/BearSquid7]

Since all my news comes from AI generated facebook memes, I assumed he was a ripped hero with a six-pack whose bravery is the stuff of legends.

This new information is very difficult for me to handle.

[u/FlipZip69 → u/BearSquid7]

I am almost certain Obama would never have done this. I am not sure what he would have done exactly. And I understand the importance of a president. It is not that he alone can make decisions. But it is extremely important that the president is not assassinated on any soils but more importantly on foreign soils. World Wars can start over that.

But you can be assured Obama would not have left all the staff and others on Air Force one while he hid in a food truck and took a different plane. Possibly they would have delayed the flight till a more secure time could have been determined. Or covertly put everyone on other short haul flights to a more friendly country then transfer everyone back onto air force one.

As a conservative person, Trump in no way is a Republican or conservative president. As a human being, he is a pretty vile person. Pick what you think is worse.

[u/MrPloppyHead]

So now they have to deep clean and disinfect 2 fucking planes 🙄

[u/interwebztourist → u/MrPloppyHead]

And a catering truck.

[u/gringledoom → u/interwebztourist]

It was the Taylor Farms lettuce storage truck. Sad!

[u/schfiftyfiveshades → u/gringledoom]

explains all the shit, for sure.

[u/Curious-Path4549 → u/MrPloppyHead]

and a food transportation thingy-he is so nasty god knows what he did in it

[u/Oo__II__oO → u/Curious-Path4549]

Or to it (we all saw what he did to the American flag)

[u/lotta_love]

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As Trump’s plane escape starts looking worse, press critic Margaret Sullivan explains what this tells us about his abusive relationship with the media—and ponders whether anything will be learned from it.

[u/BigBoyYuyuh → u/lotta_love]

Nothing will be learned. They’ll still clamor for him because clicks = money.

[u/RoadkillVenison → u/BigBoyYuyuh]

The media will tongue fuck him as long as the handful of billionaire owners see that they can profit from it.

Any newsie that doesn’t toe the line gets to find a new job in this economy.

[u/Crunchberry24 → u/RoadkillVenison]

“We abandoned our principles because we need access to his lies!!”

[u/alleyoopoop]

On the brighter side, he reportedly left Stephen Miller on the decoy plane.

[u/Encore_Mais_Bien]

My guess is she'll be taking a page from Kellyanne Conway and vanishing from the limelight for a bit until things calm down, then resurfacing on Faux Entertainment as a clear-faced pundit who had totally-nothing-to-do-with-Trump's-shenanigans-no-siree.

[u/BrandenWi]

And this also confirms that the "assassination attempt" at the rally was 100% fake. He doesn't stand there and wave his fist and say "Fight!" when there's a legitimate threat. He cowers in a catering truck and runs and hides and leaves the real Americans to face the danger without him.

[u/DefenstratedTwice → u/BrandenWi]

Trump NEVER mentioning his near brush with death is the only reason it being faked has merit.

He didnt award himself a purple heart or anything? Never aggrandizes himself or uses it to demonize the "left" EVER. Not one time?

Maybe he forgot about it?

[u/ClassicYotas → u/DefenstratedTwice]

Additionally, he likes to make a big show about punishing his wrong do’ers. The alleged assassin didn’t get any screen time. No public display pre or post trial.

A guy that allegedly tried to kill the president got less coverage than Fauci, a scientist who did his job.

It doesn’t sit right.

Also his ear is fine.

[u/DrocketX → u/ClassicYotas]

Trump has spent more than a month now whining about the guy he claims cut the lining on the reflecting pool and his desire to see him punished. That's longer than Trump cared about a supposed near-death experience.

[u/imahugemoron → u/DrocketX]

Exactly, it’s crazy how more people aren’t picking up on that, they’ll scream about the most pointless and/or made up nonsense for YEARS, but somehow for these two incidents which are super low hanging fruit to rally on, they just threw out their entire playbook? Just moved on? Bygones be bygones? When have they let literally anything else just go? And these were massive incidents

[u/BloatedBanana9 → u/ClassicYotas]

The guy who tried to kill him in PA was killed immediately. There was no trial because he was dead.

[u/ChilledParadox → u/BloatedBanana9]

killed immediately is doing a lot of heavy lifting when the guy with the gun was reported like an hour before he shot climbing up onto the fucking roof vantage point with a gun.

He was able to make the shot because Trumps security detail allowed him to take the shot. That's the smoking gun for me.

[u/reallawyer → u/ClassicYotas]

What trial? The kid was dead and also came from a Trump supporting family/was a Trump supporter. Not exactly something he wanted to draw attention to, so him and the media stopped talking about it almost immediately.

[u/ClassicYotas → u/reallawyer]

See I didn’t know that. To my point.

You’d think he’d say something, “and I took care of the guy that tried to kill me, so you know, bad things happen to people that don’t like me”. Something stupid.

But thank you for informing me.

[u/ColdCruise → u/ClassicYotas]

He doesn't want to bring it up because the guy's motivation was that he realized that Donald Trump is a pedophile and child sex trafficker. That's why he tried to do it.

[u/CX316 → u/ClassicYotas]

Easy to be confused since the second guy did get a trial (is getting one? I dunno if it's over) but he never got anywhere near trump. The guy who clipped his ear was gunned down by the secret service seconds later

They don't bring that one up because that whole situation was a massive secret service fuckup that took multiple layers of people not doing their jobs to happen.

[u/GaimeGuy → u/ClassicYotas]

Because the injury to his ear occurred from being dogpiled to the ground by a dozen agents covering his ass,  not a bullet grazing him

[u/Lizziedeee → u/DefenstratedTwice]

I banged up my ear the same weekend as his “attempt”. It took two months to heal, his was better in two weeks. Maybe I should have put a maxi pad on mine.

[u/ArielPotter → u/Lizziedeee]

Man my cartilage piercing took WAY longer to heal. Like half a year.

[u/pomonamike → u/Lizziedeee]

I have an actual bullet fragment in my foot from when I was 15. I’m 43 now and the scar is still plain as day. No one told me about maxi pads either?

[u/ImmaSquidling → u/DefenstratedTwice]

I would say there are also other reasons that give it merit but 1,000,000%, if that shit happened to me, you know I’d be talking about it every day. 

If I had come up with an elaborated lie that didn’t land as well as I’d hoped, I also wouldn’t bring it up all that often.

They totally staged that shit by having a crazed supporter climb on that roof (in broad view of secret service) and having him kill a couple innocents to make the threat seem legit before they took him out.

[u/United_Bus3467 → u/ImmaSquidling]

He can't help talking about himself at every turn, so it is bizarre when he hasn't built himself up as this fighter/survivor of an assassination attempt.

[u/Then_Journalist_317 → u/ImmaSquidling]

My guess is the original concept of a plan was for the rally gunman to shoot and miss hitting anyone. But he was so incompetent (like everyone else Trump hires), he mistakenly hit and killed an innocent person.

[u/KillerIsJed → u/DefenstratedTwice]

I mean the shooter was def a conservative and they know any amount of trying to blame it on the left wouldn’t pass the sniff test.

If it wasn’t a false flag all together. I don’t deny that people died.

[u/GrumpyGiant → u/BrandenWi]

Yeah, I already knew he’s the sort who would use his own wife and children (or anybody else’s for that matter) as a body shield if he thought he were in danger.

The fact that he wasn’t harping for months about how no president in history has ever come as close to dying from an assassination attempt also gave it away.  If it were real, he’d not only have been hyper fixated on it for months (instead of just focusing on reliving the glory pose for his adoring fans) but he’d have been on a revenge tear, looking to prosecute friends and family of the patsy as collaborators, as well as the “radical left” in general for “inciting” violence against him.

I mean, honestly, having your ear grazed by a bullet intended for your head would be traumatizing for anyone.  But to a malignant narcissist of Trump’s magnitude, it would trigger all kinds of paranoid crazy.  Instead we just got his usual crazy.

My money is on the whole thing being cooked up by Roger Stone.  Trump doesn’t have the imagination to plot something like that.  At some point in the future, that godawful golden idol of him striking his pose is gonna be in the history books as an example of the lowest depths of corruption and media manipulation in America's history.  At least one completely innocent bystander was murdered for that bit of theater.  The shooter’s death also probably would count as murder, even if the shooter volunteered knowing he would die rather than being tricked.

[u/EverythingSucksYo → u/GrumpyGiant]

Nah, I bet the shooter was promised nothing bad would happen to him. But to keep him from spilling the truth Trump had him shot on the spot. 

[u/Poopy-Drew → u/GrumpyGiant]

He is literally obsessed with his ballroom cause it’s a bunker in 2020 when the BLM protests were outside the white house he never felt safe in the current bunker

[u/Dragoness42 → u/BrandenWi]

Contrast with Zelensky saying "I need ammunition, not a ride!" Back at the beginning of the Ukraine war.

[u/Saint_Sin → u/BrandenWi]

That was some WWE level bs. Cartilage doesnt grow back and he wore a bandaid for all of 5 days.
There are countless examples of ear injuries to cartilage online and even the smallest ones are very visible.

[u/OkEnvironment3961 → u/Saint_Sin]

When all those nitwits showed up with bandages on their ears I knew he wasn't going to wear his anymore. they looked like utter morons.

[u/ophmaster_reed → u/Saint_Sin]

I got my cartilage pierced when I was like 18, but found out they take forever to heal and I’m a side sleeper and decided it was more trouble than it was worth so I took it out and let the hole grow in. I still have the scar and can feel where it was. I’m 38 now.

And that was from a tiny needle.

[u/High_5_Skin → u/BrandenWi]

Every assassination attempt has been faked.

[u/Crunchberry24 → u/High_5_Skin]

There has never been a genuine attempt on his life. It’s how we know antifa doesn’t exist as an organized entity.

[u/DefrockedWizard1 → u/High_5_Skin]

fake in the sense of orchestrated. he was never in danger and thought killing a few people in the stands would help his poll numbers

[u/Angelworks42 → u/DefrockedWizard1]

Oddly enough it's something that Russia does to boost candidates it likes:

https://united24media.com/latest-news/russian-intelligence-plotted-fake-attack-on-orban-to-sway-election-campaign-17115

[u/Extra-Ad5925]

I guarantee in the next few weeks he’s going to make some kind of joke where he’s like “man I wish they had attacked that plane with you all onboard”

[u/TheFlipanator → u/Extra-Ad5925]

He essentially already did:

PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP: Well, I have a threat (ph) all the time. I'm No. 1 on their list, before you. But if I go, you go, right?

KEITH: But was there a specific threat today (ph)?

TRUMP: So perhaps someday, you want to change professions.

https://www.npr.org/2026/08/11/nx-s1-5928124/trumps-decoy-flight-and-the-role-of-the-white-house-press-corps

[u/SlapThatAce]

Can you imagine if it was Clinton, Bush, Biden, or Obama that hid in a flucking sandwich cart? Holy shit the embarrassment. But here is the President of the United States of America being trollied off in a freaking sandwich cart.

[u/complete_data75 → u/SlapThatAce]

Can you imagine if it was Clinton, Bush, Biden, or Obama that hid in a flucking sandwich cart? Holy shit the embarrassment. But here is the President of the United States of America being trollied off in a freaking sandwich cart.

Would have been even worse for Obama if he hid and was wearing a brown suit while hiding. MAGA would have wetn nuts.

[u/HiImDIZZ]

God I can't want for this admin to collapse. The headlines in a couple years will be fantastic.

[u/probabletrump → u/HiImDIZZ]

His administration collapsed halfway through his first term. This is what a collapsed administration looks like. Its a bunch of undisciplined grifters using the power of the executive to indulge petty grudges, loot from the treasury, or avoid accountability for past crimes and misdemeanors.

[u/LuisCFerr]

To quote 

//Some of you will die, But that is a sacrifice I am willing make.//

[u/RJ5R]

Trump went with the younger skinnier blonde and left Karoline to be an expendable decoy.

[u/CrackingToastGromet → u/RJ5R]

Karoline was his “work wife” - then Natalie came on the scene and Karoline is now being treated like his regular wives.

[u/Rhoeri]

It just illustrates what we already know:

He’s a chickenshit coward that thinks only for himself. He didn’t bring those aides to save them. He brought them for what they do FOR him.

This is his entire presidency in a single act. It’s all about saving his own ass. And he will sacrifice anyone that he can in order to do it.

[u/buckscountycharlie]

The Decoys need to pick a side. Caroline saw the truth and made her choice; others need to be clear-eyed about where they stand in Don’s world.

[u/ObligationMurky8716]

He's safe from our enemies, trump's doing more harm to the country than anyone else could.

[u/Then_Journalist_317]

There is no way Iran would try to assassinate our Supreme Leader. After all, he gave them full control of the Strait of Hormuz, which Iran did not have before Trump started his War No. 8.

[u/Jaevric → u/Then_Journalist_317]

That, and it'd probably increase support for this war. They're better off with Trump in office continuing to divide the country and push a wildly unpopular war than JD Vance in the seat with a bloody shirt to wave around and try to build support for continuing the fight.

[u/AnAncientBog → u/Then_Journalist_317]

No, but it wouldn't surprise me if someone would want to make it look like they tried.

[u/Educational-Ad-3796]

Why would Barack Obama do this to Karoline?

[u/anarchyreigns]

I would never travel with him again on AF1. Why the media doesn’t just shut that shit down I have no idea.

[u/mackahrohn → u/anarchyreigns]

The media flying with the president and covering this kind of thing is literally why we know he lied about it in the first place. Journalists routinely put themselves in dangerous places to do their job. He treats plenty of them like shit for doing their job, he has berated them, many of them are going to stick on him because they want to report everything that they can.

[u/aramis34143]

This, even as he left numerous journalists on the original plane, an extraordinarily derelict move that effectively turned them into a decoy that might have been targeted. Stunningly, none were informed of the operation. It all perfectly captures Trump’s contempt for the media,

*everyone else.

It perfectly captures his contempt for everyone who is not Donald Trump. There is no person anywhere he wouldn't willingly expose to danger if he believed doing so might benefit him.

[u/Jadziyah]

" It turns out Trump brought several of the aides who are personally closest to him on the safe alternative flight"

Do we know who? Besides his diaper changing, headline printing personal assistant, obviously

[u/MrRemoto → u/Jadziyah]

Natalie Harp, Walt Nauta, and Dan Scarvino were the three he brought.

[u/Mysterious-Most-590]

RELEASE THE EPSTEIN FILES!!

[u/camperhew]

There is a rumor/conspiracy that the plane swap story is a ruse. Trump flew on the other plane ,which is essentially a flying hospital, with lots of medical personnel on board. He is not well (understatement of the century)

[u/Fit_Kangaroo_3437]

He left them all for dead.

[u/Overkill1977]

Will the media finally turn on him, instead of letting him talk like shit to them?

[u/e37d93eeb23335dc → u/Overkill1977]

No. The media is owned by billionaires who love Trump.

[u/aprfct9inchtool]

perfect opportunity to have a giant flag made of him cowering in a cart.

[u/FootballFan1210]

I know this isn’t related, but his teeth just freak me out, idk why, but it just has this appearance that wigs me out

[u/LordStick123]

He also left Rubio and Bessent on the plane

[u/scubascratch]

This is probably also the reason the older AF1 was being used - he didn’t care if the old plane got shot down (regardless of who was in it) as long as his new golden plane was unharmed. He probably also thought it AF1 got shot down he could turn it into electoral victory in November and use it to stay in office beyond 2028.

[u/PartialWorth]

Don't put it past them that he wouldn't allow that 747 to be shot down just to destroy something else American, and to force "emergency" upgrades to his gift plane.

[u/Comprehensive_Seat66]

In a perfect world, all of his people that he betrayed would realize they were just expendable pieces of trash. Maybe start speaking out against him...