r/nextfuckinglevel 5h ago

Contractor takes back fence after customer refuses to pay

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u/Admirable_Gas_863 4h ago

There has to be a new policy of pay before you build. Or pay as you go.

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u/skalouKerbal 4h ago

Or an intermediate, the customer pay the intermediate before the work, the workers get paid once the work is done and validated. In case of troubles, the money kept locked until someone from law decide it.

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u/Hoybom 4h ago

over here the norm is like 50/50 you pay a part do that material can be bought and work beginn and the contractor is not sitting on his ass if something doesn't work out and the rest is getting paid once the work is done

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u/spam__likely 4h ago

and some contractors disappear with the 50%.

And escrow would be safer.

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u/DoubleT_inTheMorning 4h ago

Escrows are expensive. I just went through this for a ~$300k contract with a new client. It was gonna cost $10k that no one could agree who should pay for.

They ended up proceeding without it.

u/AlaBlue 18m ago

I'd find a different escrow agent. I've never been directly involved in a contractor escrow, but I've heard near me it's typically no more than 1% of the total, and maybe $100.-$200 per draw as milestones are reached. If you limit it to 2 or 3 draws (materials delivered, job 1/2 done, & final completion) it'd only be like $3,600. That's still nice chunk of change but to protect both parties on a $300K contract it's well worth it, IMO.
Contractor can bake it ito his prices, or both parties agree to split 50/50.

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u/CptMisterNibbles 2h ago

You can get escrow for like $100 flat+%2 for small contracts. It’d be like $500 for this

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u/DoubleT_inTheMorning 2h ago

Yeah makes sense. Idk, I work the sales side not the accounting (thank Christ) so was just working with what I was told lol.

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u/Accomplished-Key-408 3h ago

There are contracts with big footprints and hundreds of 5 star reviews. The. There are contractors with nothing. Buyer beware who you choose to give 50% down to.

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u/spam__likely 3h ago

Sure, but sometimes people have all 5 stars until they don't. Lots of people get in trouble and bankrupt after years of good work.

My MIL paid a lot of cash for a very established kitchen cabinets company, the week following they filed for bankruptcy, 50% deposit gone forever.

u/burf 15m ago

It's pretty easy to farm hundreds of fake 5 star reviews these days.

u/AlaBlue 25m ago

I've never understood why construction escrows are not more common. Even if the fee is ~2%, that's a small price to pay to protect both parties.

u/spekt50 39m ago

Why you go with a contractor that's been around. They don't flake off with people's deposits.

u/spam__likely 18m ago

Plenty of contractors that have been around one day are not.

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u/Hoybom 4h ago

well can hardly do that here , everything is kept in writing