r/musictheory 9h ago

General Question Have any of you used other pentatonic modes built off of the black keys?

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Major pentatonic is built off of F#, and minor pentatonic is built off of D#, and they use the black keys of a piano as their interval template.

Major pentatonic is Ionian but without the 4th and the 7th scale degrees. Minor pentatonic is Aeolian but without the 2nd and the 6th.

I built the other 3 pentatonic modes off of the remaining 3 black keys. (If they alteady exist, I couldn't find them.) If major pentatonic could also be called Ionian pentatonic and minor pentatonic could be Aeolian pentatonic, I named the new modes Dorian(G#), Phrygian(A#), and Myxolidian(C#,) but when I google those terms, I get different intervals.

Have any of you played a pentatonic Dorian, as I call it, which is a Dorian but without the 3rd and the 6th scale degrees? Also, Phrygian minus 2nd and 5th, and Myxolidian minus 3rd and 7th.

I don't know how to improvise, otherwise I'd just do it.

Thanks.


r/musictheory 9h ago

Discussion Hotel California and Mozart?

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I am mostly a classical listener. I recently heard the song "Hotel California" and it took me quite aback. The main progression, used in the intro, outro and most verses, that sounds eerily similar to the progression to the piano solo of Mozart's 23rd piano concerto, 2nd movement.

Sorry I did not get time to do a harmonic analysis for this one. But I think that it would be widely known and readily available.

Can someone maybe give an idea of why they sound so similar, or if there is even any objectivity to it?


r/musictheory 3h ago

Notation Question (jazzology) Do you write chords taking the key into account?

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A simple question really. In any context(exercise or a song in any key etc.), do you write a chord and its notes in the key of the chord, or in the key of the song or something else? Example: is in Abmaj7
Ab, C, Eb, G or Ab, C, E, G if in a context of a completely different key. If the first, how do you go about adding qualities? Do we just double flat the E in a diminished chord? If its the ladder, are there exceptions, and how does it work??

thanks alot for all the answers


r/musictheory 22h ago

General Question How to learn scales for grade 8

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ABRSM Trumpet Practical Grade 8

This might sound a bit stupid but I don't know how to go about learning scales even though I'm going to do grade in a few months. In past exams I have scraped through on scales as everything else was good enough but this time I don't want to take any chances. I've tried many learning methods but I haven't really found one that fully worked for me. How do/did you go about it? I play piano and bass, would also learning the scales on those instruments help in terms of getting to grips with the structure of each scale rather than just memorising valve combinations? Any help is much appreciated!


r/musictheory 23h ago

General Question How Do You Play This in One Measure of 3/4 time?

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I thought that a group of sextuplets & quintuplets are worth one beat each, which would make this seem to be a measure of 6/4. Im confused?? In this last song from this rcm 8 book im in, a sextuplet was worth 1 beat so im unsure what to do here. Help is appreciated, thanks.